https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2017/7/1/ftfs/anti-gun-bills-linger-as-oregon-legislature-winds-down/


The Oregon Legislature is in the final days of session with adjournment scheduled for July 10. This means committees are operating under shortened notice requirements—24 hours for the House, one hour for the Senate—and legislation can move very quickly with limited opportunity for public input. Two anti-gun bills are currently awaiting a hearing that could be scheduled at any time.

Senate Bill 719 is based on a 2014 California law that would create something known as an “Extreme Risk Protection Order.” This ERPO could be obtained by a law enforcement officer, family member or household member who thinks a person presents a potential risk—they would then be stripped of their Second Amendment rights without due process of the law.

Senate Bill 1065 would enable firearm transfers to be delayed by 14 days if the Oregon State Police are unable to determine a buyer’s qualification. The bill would also change the process for obtaining a concealed handgun license by making the requirements much more stringent.

And judt what is the criteria for this ERPO? I'm sure it's plenty vague and rarely denied.

I believe that the criteria is "if you like guns then you are crazy and shouldn't have guns." Bill Post put this up 24 hours ago on Twitter:

Ok @OregonFirearms @NRA and all #2A law abiding citizens, SB 719 looks to be moving start emailing the House Reps to vote "NO"! #orleg

Bill Post  (@BillPostOregon) July 3, 2017

NRA-ILA just sent out this form where you can send your rep an email really easily to oppose this:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170703/oregon-anti-gun-legislation-being-moved-in-the-final-days-of-session

I don't see any action on it today so far, at least not on the Legislative website.

Anyone know what's up?

It passed today.

Just received an email from OFF confirming.

This has to be challenged in court. 

I would hope any members here who live in Polk County would do their best to send that fuck face Boquist out into the world to get a real job after this.

I'm no lawyer at all, but government seizure of personal property without compensation when no crime has been committed seems like the kind of thing the framers of the constitution would have frowned upon.

Stupid assed legislature.

I think they are all mentally ill.

Time to call them on it. They don't deserve scissors.

I've spent my life in Oregon. I can't believe I am seriously thinking of leaving. And it's not just the gun stuff. The whole state is upside down.

You and me both. I'm thinking about doing 2 weeks in Montana to see how it feels for retirement. 

So not only did they "sneak" the ERPO past us at the last minute that is totally unconstitutional but will be upheld by the ninth circus. They also raised the gas taxes, vehicle registration fees, vehicle excise taxes, fines, and a bunch of other bullshit. Boquist needs to go. I am hoping that OFF is going to fight this and the NRA needs to start getting involved in these state laws that are passing, especially the ones that are particularly egregious. Hopefully by the time it makes it through the appeals process there will be a solid pro-gun, conservative majority on the supreme court. I have lived I Oregon for a long time (over 40 years) and it used to be a pretty balance state politically, but now! Wow! I refuse to leave and give these bastards one more vote. I will fight these bastards to the day I die. It has been long overdue for the "torches and pitchforks" to be brought out and put these TOOLS in their place. Obviously the letters and phone calls are no longer working. Maybe it is time to think about adopting the tactics of the left. Just Sayin'... 

This will stop once someone in the legislature actually loses their job over it. They passed SB941 and had no consequences. They will do worse every session from now on. Unless someone doesn't get re-elected.

Well interesting email exchanges going on over SB719 with the Representative that championed it, somehow one of my email address's has been included with a lot of other people that are against Extreme Risk Protection Order,   I am sure that if some of you have emailed on this subject you have received the same emails I have been receiving this morning, but for those who are not getting, I will be happy to post up the content of the Rep's letter back to everybody.  Just let me know, his response was quite a long one.

I received his asinine reply this morning too.  Looks like we're on his "NSA list" now LOL.  Self-righteous prick.

Is that how it works?
Write a letter against it and you coincidentally end up on the list?

Well it sounds like it, this guy is so stupid, or he has really stupid employee's!

I would be interested in seeing it.

Okay,

Here ya go
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Ladies & Gentlemen:



You all contacted us with your negative thoughts on the suicide prevention bill modeled on a decades old Connecticut law that is credited with saving of lives.  Likewise, multiple States have existing similar laws including Washington which passed by 70% before statewide voters.  It is apparent you contacted me based on an Oregon Firearms Federation fundraising alert, or a fundraising email from the California gun dealer’s dba Firearms Policy Coalition whose lobbyist is a contributor to Breitbart.



Unless you are verbally propagating suicide to your household members or threatening to murder them, the new law will not impact you at all.  Likely, it will only impact less than a few hundred Oregonians a year.



However, if you are only interested in blindly funding OFF and FPC then please hit the delete key now.



Also, if you want to fire back rhetoric without reading further just remember your email is already a public record for which the federalists no doubt already possess at the NSA.  All government emails at the Legislative level are stored in the ‘cloud’ by a third party thus not secure.



The purpose of SB 719 and SB 868 is suicide prevention.  Oregon ranks 4th in the nation for suicides.  Oregon is top of the list for military and veteran suicides.  The leading death of young people is suicide.  Every day 22 veterans commit suicide in the nation.  I could write pages on this problem along with the total failure of two Presidents (R&D), and multiple Congresses (R&D), and our own State ignoring this fact along with their list of excuses.  If you really care then look at the 20 plus floor documents at the link below outlining the problem we face in Oregon and America.



It is obvious very few of you read Kevin’s or Phillip’s link to the bill, and maybe none of you researched the Oregon Legislative Information System history, testimony, and hearing process of SB 868 which I sponsored after a decade of trying other solutions.  I can honestly say I do not recall ANY of you ever offering a solution in the past decade as America abandoned it’s veterans.  This includes those of you who served too.  Note, SB 719 a committee bill, passed the Oregon State Senate nearly three months ago, not last week.  Most of the comments we received are factually incorrect thus below I will outline the facts plus provide you independent links to verify yourself:



Militia clause.  The U.S. Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees in DC v. Heller very clearly established firearm ownership as an individual right with restrictions exactly contained in the suicide prevention bill.  See link.



Due process.  The U.S. Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees in Mathews v. Eldridge along with multiple other cases have established a due process requirement time line less than are contained in this suicide prevention bill.  See link.



Ex parte.  The U.S. Supreme Court dating back to the early 1800s to present have set out the ex parte requirements in cases such as Merryman, Milligan, and others.  Ex parte is well established in criminal and civil law across America including Oregon.  Plus the penalties for false allegations are larger than non-compliance as the goal is suicide prevention, not the fundraising rhetoric most of you failed to check out.  



For the public record, ex parte, due process, and militia clause elements of SB 719, and SB 868 originally, were improved & narrowed based on written suggestions by the National Rifle Association along with others.  We can email you OFF’s and the NRA’s correspondence.  Read your NRA, OFF and FPC alerts carefully as they are competing for your donations by stating their propagandized positions very carefully as they know the law too.



Extreme risk protective orders designed to prevent suicide or harm are fully constitutional pursuant to the U.S. Supreme Court adjudications of the U.S. Constitution.  ERPOs have been in place for decades in other States.  Heller, Mathews, Milligan, and Merryman rulings are not one’s you want to overturn if you cherish due process and your individual rights.  The question is do you really support the U.S. Constitution or you want to pick & choose parts based on your own interpretation.



Several groups competing for dollars knowingly made numerous inaccuracies to get donations.  Kitchen knives are not deadly weapons under any law in Oregon.  Third party transfers were covered in depth at public hearings at the request of the same groups making wild claims in their alerts.  Timelines for the judicial hearings processes were changed at the request of the same gun groups.  As was the use of clear & convincing evidence before a judge not the normal weaker constitutional standards.



Mental health.  SB 719 is a suicide prevention bill not a mental health adjudication intentionally to preserve an individual’s 2nd Amendment rights.  NRA, OFF and FPC know full well if a court makes a mental adjudication it is a permanent loss of gun rights under 18 USC 922(g)(4).  Since SB 719 has multiple hearings and court options before a judge, such a mental health ruling would result in a No entry on line 11f on an ATF Form 4473 i.e. background check.  For these reasons, the law specifically stated the process was not a mental health adjudication, and allows the respondent the choice if he or she wants to risk having such a mental health adjudication thus allowing them to seek help without a permanent loss of rights.  See links.



You should note the Legislature passed other expansions of mental health and suicide prevention elsewhere in the Session including expanded services, 24-hour preventions, and police training.



Elephants and rhinoceroses.  The GOP’s Platform link is below.  Everything in SB 719 conforms to the intent and words of the Republican platform.  Suggest those of you making RINO claims read your own party’s positions.  It is telling that 19 Oregon House Republicans voted against funding State veterans programs including veterans suicide prevention and mental health.  Odder, it was three Democrat legislators who got back the full funding level of Measure 96 with the help of two Republican legislators.  Likewise, multiple Republican Central Committees in Oregon have openly opposed local law enforcement and public safety.  So much for veterans and law & order platform in Oregon or by the Republican Congress.  Federalist Republicans oversee an abysmal Veterans Administration, failed on immigration reform, and after three years in power have done nothing on health care.



Let me remind all of you the United States is a representative republic not a parliamentary nation like Great Britain.  America elect’s representatives not party hacks to sit in parliament.  State Senators represent all 128,000 citizens of their districts.  I represent Senate District 12 not some other district elsewhere in the State.  Republicans account for 34% of Senate District 12.  And more than half of them want stricter gun laws that I will not support.  Only 27% of Oregonians are Republicans.  Again, more than half of these Republicans want stricter laws.  Those of you making the above RINO claims need to access your own party affiliation as most of you have expressed non-Republican views and platform positions.  A link to change parties is below.



In closing, unless you are verbally propagating suicide to your household members or threatening to murder them, the new law will not impact you at all.  Of course, if you have five ex-wives, beat your children, and hate local law enforcement, you have bigger problems than this new law.  But if you have a better suggestion for reducing suicide, especially amongst veterans, then please take the time to make some constructive suggestions.



Sincerely,



Brian J. Boquist

Chairman

Veterans & Emergency Prep

Oregon State Senate

Do laws like this help chicago?
I heard they set a record this weekend, 50 shot 10 dead.
ETA: what a professional response from that guy.

I am dissatisfied with this response:)

He is attacking OFF and the NRA. These organizations are probably the only reason we have not gone completely the ways of California. He says "half" of republicans want that. How does he know this? I would be surprised if that is true. Regardless, It seems very clear to me this is unconstitutional so frankly I don't care if half of the republicans want it.

He does not seem to like the term RINO. Most likely because he knows its true.

State Senators represent all 128,000 citizens of their districts. I represent Senate District 12 not some other district elsewhere in the State.

But he creates a bill that affects the entire state. I hope he gets recalled. I know the petition to recall Kate is up and running.

Where do I sign the Kate one. 

http://oregoncitizens.org
https://www.facebook.com/RecallKateBrown/

The people that are running it said they had the facebook page up. You can print out a single form at oregoncitizens.org and send that in.

Only 27% of Oregonians are Republicans?  Does that sound low to anyone else?


And Mr. High and Mighty Boquist may want to take a quick refresher on when a word ending in 's' requires an apostrophe.



ETA: According to Wikipedia 38% are Dem, 27.7% are Republican, and another 27% are non-affiliated.  After that it's just little bits broken among all kinds of third parties and whack jobs.