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Posted: 1/25/2006 8:16:06 AM EDT
So for those noobs among us, what can be expected at the February Practical Rifle match? At the January match they were talking about it being a “sniper” match. Is there any chance for those of us that use iron sights and 16” barrels?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:35:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CubDriver:
So for those noobs among us, what can be expected at the February Practical Rifle match? At the January match they were talking about it being a “sniper” match. Is there any chance for those of us that use iron sights and 16” barrels?



Only if you name is Sergeant Martin Riggs
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:02:46 AM EDT
Exactly.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:16:30 AM EDT
600 yards with irons? no way.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 11:19:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.... would they let you even try

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 12:46:52 PM EDT
i am interested, more info or a link plz?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 1:17:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By christ0ph:
i am interested, more info or a link plz?



No info yet.

The time is Feb. 11 @ 9:00am (arrive 7am for breakfast with some of us or by 8:30am to get signed up). If you aren't there for the walkthrough, you don't shoot.

The place is Tri-County Gun Club (TCGC) in Sherwood, OR

The fee is $5 higher for this one due to prizes ($20).

From the last PR e-mail:

Don't forget to prepare for the Annual Practical Rifle Sniper Match on Saturday, February 11th. Bring your most accurate rifle. We will shoot between 24-36 rounds. Match fee will be $20 to help with Trophy expense. We will shoot it the gravel pit where our normal matches are. If you have anything you would like to donate for prizes, please contact me.


I've got a feeling they're not going to tell us anything about the match until the walkthrough. "Surprise" is more like it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:42:10 PM EDT
Oh ya! I cant wait. Will be using my M1A with a 10x scope. This will be its first real outing, cant wait to see what it will do.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:56:46 PM EDT
24-36 rounds? will a 1 moa or less .223 ar be sufficient?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:46:27 PM EDT
I would not attempt this match unless you have a rifle with high end optics that can
consistently shoot 1 MOA. Try hitting a 10 inch target at 500 yards or the 10 ring on
sillouette at 600 yards. You need the proper equipment. Also, remember several of the
PR group is experienced at this type of shooting. This match is not oriented toward the new shooter.

Check out the previous matches:

2001 Sniper Match
2004 Sniper Match
2005 Sniper Match

My $0.02 worth,

Spambo
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:02:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 7:08:43 PM EDT by M-60]
I placed 26th last year with a stock Colt Match Target H-bar with a 4X TA-31a ACOG. Irons? No way. I felt like I needed way more scope for those long shots.







Look! There's my fat ass right in front!

Mark.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 7:16:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spambo:
I would not attempt this match unless you have a rifle with high end optics that can
consistently shoot 1 MOA. Try hitting a 10 inch target at 500 yards or the 10 ring on
sillouette at 600 yards. You need the proper equipment. Also, remember several of the
PR group is experienced at this type of shooting. This match is not oriented toward the new shooter.

Check out the previous matches:

2001 Sniper Match
2004 Sniper Match
2005 Sniper Match


My $0.02 worth,

Spambo



whew! i think ill pass....
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:50:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.



All Marine recruits shoot iron sights at the 500 yard line.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:00:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.



All Marine recruits shoot iron sights at the 500 yard line.



Yep. And if they don't hit the paper, they do pushups. Here, if you don't hit the paper, you hit a house with a family inside
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:05:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.



All Marine recruits shoot iron sights at the 500 yard line.



Not at a 10" steel plate.



Mark.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:39:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M-60:

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.



All Marine recruits shoot iron sights at the 500 yard line.



Not at a 10" steel plate.



Mark.




True.

Sorry if I came across as snide.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:14:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M-60:
Not at a 10" steel plate.

Mark.



Doesn't Randy use those damn 8" flashers. Ugh. At 250 yards I was having problems hitting those with my AK.

My biggest problem with this match will not be "accuracy" per se. It'll be range estimation and bullet drop compensation. A .223 is typically flat shooting out to ~250 yards (assuming 50 yard zero). At 300, 4" low (with my loads). At 400, 18" low. At 500, 45" low. At 600, 88" low

That 400-600 range is really difficult.

This of course assuming no wind. You add a 5mph crosswind, and at 600 yards, you're off by almost 3 feet.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:47:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NoAim:

Originally Posted By M-60:
Not at a 10" steel plate.

Mark.



Doesn't Randy use those damn 8" flashers. Ugh. At 250 yards I was having problems hitting those with my AK.

My biggest problem with this match will not be "accuracy" per se. It'll be range estimation and bullet drop compensation. A .223 is typically flat shooting out to ~250 yards (assuming 50 yard zero). At 300, 4" low (with my loads). At 400, 18" low. At 500, 45" low. At 600, 88" low

That 400-600 range is really difficult.

This of course assuming no wind. You add a 5mph crosswind, and at 600 yards, you're off by almost 3 feet.



Dont worry, I will be there to make everyone feel better about themselves.
I probably will place dead last. But damn it I am going to try.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:49:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 3:50:52 PM EDT by NoAim]

Originally Posted By warhound:
Dont worry, I will be there to make everyone feel better about themselves.
I probably will place dead last. But damn it I am going to try.



No poroblem. I'll be one place above you. Out to 300yards I can shoot. Beyond that...I've never attempted. I need my friggin' can on the rifle so I can practice with it.

Make myself a cheat sheet, practice range estimation, etc. etc.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:57:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2006 3:58:11 PM EDT by petagunner]
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:08:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NoAim:

Doesn't Randy use those damn 8" flashers. Ugh. At 250 yards I was having problems hitting those with my AK.



Those were 6"
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:14:40 PM EDT
And in the last match, you could only have 5 in the mag, and no reloads, you have to make each shot a good one...


Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:22:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By M-60:

Originally Posted By tReznr:

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
600 yards with irons? no way.



All Marine recruits shoot iron sights at the 500 yard line.



Not at a 10" steel plate.



Mark.




True.

Sorry if I came across as snide.




Not at all. I know the Corps have exacting marksmanship standards. I seem to attract Jar Heads as friends... Not sure why...


Mark.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:43:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M-60:
Not at all. I know the Corps have exacting marksmanship standards. I seem to attract Jar Heads as friends... Not sure why...



My dad was a Jarhead.

The most wussy-assed reservist cook you've ever seen! Semper Fi!

LOL.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:56:44 PM EDT
Well...........that begs the question from me......iron's with the K-31, Iron's with the 20" Bushy, or watch and help score.......hmmmmm predicament....
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:36:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Unka-Boo:
Well...........that begs the question from me......iron's with the K-31, Iron's with the 20" Bushy, or watch and help score.......hmmmmm predicament....



Scope, mounts and rings offer still stands.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:08:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By Unka-Boo:
Well...........that begs the question from me......iron's with the K-31, Iron's with the 20" Bushy, or watch and help score.......hmmmmm predicament....



Scope, mounts and rings offer still stands.



The offer is greatly appreciated, I just don't know if I'll have the time to get it sighted in...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 7:12:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 7:13:50 AM EDT by munkalido]
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