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Posted: 9/17/2017 12:46:17 PM EDT
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1. Why are there so many vehicles with no rear license plates? 2. Why do I see a bunch of cars with "Permit Driver" in the back window? Is this for DUIs being permitted to go to work/school, or is this for new drivers? Trucks with no rear tags are registered over 18k gross. The logic is they should be pulling a trailer most of the time so there's no point in a rear plate. The permit driver crap I've always wondered about myself |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 12:48:29 PM EDT
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1. Why are there so many vehicles with no rear license plates? Mostly trucks I'll assume, which when licensed over a certain load weight limit are not required to run a rear plate. Plenty of cars run no front plate because it's ugly and unnecessary despite what the State says. 2. Why do I see a bunch of cars with "Permit Driver" in the back window? Is this for DUIs being permitted to go to work/school, or is this for new drivers? Yup, new drivers. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 1:10:43 PM EDT
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1. Why are there so many vehicles with no rear license plates? Mostly trucks I'll assume, which when licensed over a certain load weight limit are not required to run a rear plate. Plenty of cars run no front plate because it's ugly and unnecessary despite what the State says. Which failure to comply can result in large fines 2. Why do I see a bunch of cars with "Permit Driver" in the back window? Is this for DUIs being permitted to go to work/school, or is this for new drivers? Yup, new drivers. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 2:11:34 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info!
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Posted: 9/17/2017 2:44:39 PM EDT
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Which failure to comply can result in large fines |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:29:55 PM EDT
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Eh, they're not that large. And it gives the Officer a way to punish me versus giving me a moving violation. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:01:09 PM EDT
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I've only once been ticketed for not having a front plate and that went away when I came by the station with a front plate.
Most don't seem to care. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:11:53 PM EDT
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Primarily I found Corvettes and newer Cameros wouldn't install front plates.
I lit up a fairly new vette one night that didn't have a front plate and when I walked up to the drivers door I said "The reason I..." he interrupted me and said "I know, no front plate. This is summons number 30" In addition, many times you run the rear plate they have mounted and you find it checks to another vehicle, they are "splitting plates". 
They wanted speeding tickets written, but I pretty much refused. They COMPLETELY ignored the "rule of 85" setting the speed limits, the signs weren't/aren't installed at the correct height, etc. They had the speed limit at 20 miles per hour on Randolph Rd. including where everyone gained speed going down a hill. I wouldn't write a vehicle unless they were at least 38 mph in a 20. (Officer discretion) Town of 52 people with 10 officers, average of $300,000.00 in annual fine revenue. When Missouri passed a bill stating that you couldn't use more than 20% of ticket revenue for municipal operations Randolph decided to shut down the Police Dept. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:33:56 PM EDT
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Primarily I found Corvettes and newer Cameros wouldn't install front plates. I lit up a fairly new vette one night that didn't have a front plate and when I walked up to the drivers door I said "The reason I..." he interrupted me and said "I know, no front plate. This is summons number 30" In addition, many times you run the rear plate they have mounted and you find it checks to another vehicle, they are "splitting plates".
They wanted speeding tickets written, but I pretty much refused. They COMPLETELY ignored the "rule of 85" setting the speed limits, the signs weren't/aren't installed at the correct height, etc. They had the speed limit at 20 miles per hour on Randolph Rd. including where everyone gained speed going down a hill. I wouldn't write a vehicle unless they were at least 38 mph in a 20. (Officer discretion) Town of 52 people with 10 officers, average of $300,000.00 in annual fine revenue. When Missouri passed a bill stating that you couldn't use more than 20% of ticket revenue for municipal operations Randolph decided to shut down the Police Dept. To the Permit Driver question. I've just started seeing a lot of these signs pop up on cars. I wonder if it's a new law. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 7:44:49 PM EDT
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When my son was learning to drive (in my car), I bought a magnet that said STUDENT DRIVER, and put it on the back whenever he was driving. He didn't like it, but I think it's a good warning to other drivers that this one may do something unusual.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 9:25:16 PM EDT
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I've only once been ticketed for not having a front plate and that went away when I came by the station with a front plate. Most don't seem to care. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 11:25:12 PM EDT
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At least according to the KCPD guys, ghetto dirtbags were splitting plates between two cars. So, if you could prove you weren't, you were GTG. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 12:02:51 AM EDT
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The officers in Ferrelview were taking a break from their speed trap and spoke harshly to me about no front plate. That's been the only time.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 8:37:54 AM EDT
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They were $125.00 in Randolph. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:00:26 AM EDT
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About $30-35 everywhere else. Fuck Randolph! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They were $125.00 in Randolph. Missouri's first official speed-trap town fingered in audit |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:16:52 AM EDT
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Back when I had my 2000 Blazer that I built for custom truck shows, legal (Been in my dads garage for like 10 years with exp plates) I never had a front plate.
Poor planning on my part, but the new front bumper and lower valance I think its called, that I put on before the new paint did not have a place for one. Afterwards, I wasn't about to drill holes in the bumper and jack up the look of a 7K dollar paint job (paint and body work). It seemed like a good risk to take, whats a no front plate ticket 35-75.00.... I think I had it mentioned to me like twice in 5 years an no tickets. So I never put one on... It might still be laying in the passenger floorboard... I need to sell that thing as I don't have a garage for it and I'll never work on it again... Lots of fun, proud moments of willing shows and good memories, just lost interest. She needs some TLC and a few things... But I know I can never get any where what I put into it for it, so I just sit on it... Stubborn like that.. I keep hoping I'll build a garage and get back into it... 
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:49:06 AM EDT
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Funny, I thought you were going to ask why nobody wanted to see your FOID card to buy ammo and how great it was to walk out of the gun store the same day with your new purchase.
When it comes to license plates one good thing Illinois has over Missouri is you guys get free vanity plates where ours are $25.00 extra. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:01:39 PM EDT
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Funny, I thought you were going to ask why nobody wanted to see your FOID card to buy ammo and how great it was to walk out of the gun store the same day with your new purchase. When it comes to license plates one good thing Illinois has over Missouri is you guys get free vanity plates where ours are $25.00 extra. As far as the plates, don't bitch... Plates on my 28' enclosed car trailer cost me $114 a year in IL... I was shocked when she said it would be $10x.xx for a PERMANENT tag on my car trailer. Same goes for the truck plates... Way cheaper than IL... Tax burden in IL for property tax far exceeds property and personal property taxes in St. Francois County. So far, I'm liking it here... Missing only Wendy's, Longhorn Steakhouse, and Home Depot. Would like to meet more people, but, I'm rather a hermit and work from home. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:43:22 PM EDT
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Heck, I'm tempted to drive down there, I'm overdue to go to the gunshop in Ironton anyway, and there are a couple of other shops I want to visit nearby.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 2:17:07 PM EDT
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The State Of Missouri shut Randolph do Missouri's first official speed-trap town fingered in audit Being that you MUST call Missouri Dept. of Public Safety to get "blocks of numbers" so you can have ticket books printed all they had to do was check what blocks of numbers were issued to Randolph. With Randolph you couldn't go by Racial Profiling reports because a crap load weren't filled out by some Officers. It wasn't illegal to not fill them out it just made the agency ineligible for Grant money. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 2:41:11 PM EDT
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Heck, I'm tempted to drive down there, I'm overdue to go to the gunshop in Ironton anyway, and there are a couple of other shops I want to visit nearby.
This Saturday I'm driving north of STL to pick up this guy... He's 10 yrs old, and bigger than he looks in the video... 50 lbs worth of Std Schnauzer. Was surrendered to the Humane Society supposedly because he was wetting his crate at night. Once well examined, it was determined that he had an ACL tear. The rescue paid to have it repaired and he's as good as new. His foster said he only has peed once in his crate at night, and it was her fault for not taking the water up after 8PM. Otherwise, he's never had an indoor accident in the 6 months they've had him. They suspect the prior owners used the crate wetting as an excuse to give him up to someone that could afford to have his knee fixed. His real name is Baxter... Not sure why they use Morpheus on Petfinder.  Attached File Attached File Morpheus runs the chicken pen. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 3:05:03 PM EDT
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Come on down. I keep Blue Moon and Mich Ultra in the fridge at 35F. If you don't like either of those, BYOB.
This Saturday I'm driving north of STL to pick up this guy... He's 10 yrs old, and bigger than he looks in the video... 50 lbs worth of Std Schnauzer. Was surrendered to the Humane Society supposedly because he was wetting his crate at night. Once well examined, it was determined that he had an ACL tear. The rescue paid to have it repaired and he's as good as new. His foster said he only has peed once in his crate at night, and it was her fault for not taking the water up after 8PM. Otherwise, he's never had an indoor accident in the 6 months they've had him. They suspect the prior owners used the crate wetting as an excuse to give him up to someone that could afford to have his knee fixed. His real name is Baxter... Not sure why they use Morpheus on Petfinder. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/354693/download__1_-312340.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/354693/download-312341.JPG  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4Iq5gL5FgI think every house needs a pair of Dogs... |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 3:42:47 PM EDT
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The foster parents just got him groomed today. Here's a quick photo they sent, with the promise to send more tonight. Asked why he appears to have been licking his left front leg...Might have some grass allergies (common with the breed). Might just be wet from the groomers yet. Adoption fee for this guy is $400.
*ETA* She replied, said he's probably been dipping his front feet in their pond to get a drink... A favorite drinking hole for him.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 3:44:58 PM EDT
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Thats a good looking Dog!!! I think every house needs a pair of Dogs... |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 5:37:24 PM EDT
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A pair might be a bit much for me. Feel free to stop by Sunday, Scott, and meet Baxter. Just call when you're on the way, I have no plans aside from picking him up Saturday. Sat, I have a Chimney guy coming out to clean and inspect the Chimney from the basement up and giving me a report of things that need done to get it in working order for this winter... We're going to try to use some wood heat and see how much it cuts the electric bill. These old school electric radiator deals are a bit costly when it gets down in the LowLows... If all goes well, I'll be looking for a good firewood supplier... and building a carport deal to store it under, so it seasons well and stays dry.. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:33:16 PM EDT
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I'll see what the old lady's got planned for the weekend and if she not got us booked, I'll stop by (I'll txt before I leave.) Sat, I have a Chimney guy coming out to clean and inspect the Chimney from the basement up and giving me a report of things that need done to get it in working order for this winter... We're going to try to use some wood heat and see how much it cuts the electric bill. These old school electric radiator deals are a bit costly when it gets down in the LowLows... If all goes well, I'll be looking for a good firewood supplier... and building a carport deal to store it under, so it seasons well and stays dry.. I just finished the prep on the mill. It gets primed tomorrow, and paint Friday. It'll look good for the dog and you, lol. |
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