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Posted: 10/10/2003 12:46:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 12:54:29 PM EDT
Great news. But in the last three days I've had like 6 things come up ALL for the 25th. I will be in STL with the in-laws unless I can't get out of a 9 - 12 meeting at church. I am ALL for helping out at the range, but I think I might be out for the 25th unless something else gives.

Great news though and I will make it up to the group if I have to miss the first work day.

Jeff D.
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 1:15:21 PM EDT
Aw heck, I will come out this weekend if you like. Otherwise just tell me what you need done and I will do my best to help out.
This is gonna be great! I can't wait.
BTW, I still have that trailer if you think it would be useful.
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 2:52:46 PM EDT
Jeff, I am available the 25th to help. Just need direction to your place from KC.
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 3:02:20 PM EDT
That is great news! Thanks guys! I will check my schedule and get back to you about the 25th.

Eric
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 3:30:20 PM EDT
Great news, indeed. i will help anyway i can. im afraid im just good at moving stuff and holding things. i cant even cut a line and drill a hole. Ronald
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 3:33:28 PM EDT
girl question!??!!?!??!

are the 'facilities' better than the ones at the range?? i know its indelicate, but im always worried about a bug flying up my butt!!

Link Posted: 10/10/2003 3:38:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 3:41:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2003 3:47:53 PM EDT by diabolical_chicken]
then i suppose we can show up--ive seen worse than that
will have to check with jake about our availability on the 25th--i have a funny feeling something is planned--will let ya know

edited to add--
you guys think im good with a grill; wait til ya see me in a kitchen--chili may not require power cords, gary !

Link Posted: 10/10/2003 6:00:46 PM EDT
Holy smokes, I actually am off that weekend :).

I can bring my son and we can pitch in. Private, centrally located, and insurance!

I will not have any excuse except work for not shooting with you guys now ;).

Hammer
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 7:39:06 PM EDT
Jeff -
I WILL BE THERE...

I can cut, drill, nail, carry, design, and pick my nose with the best of them...
You tell us what to do, and it'll get done...

This will be like a barn raising in the old days...
If we get enough people together we can get a hell of a lot done in one or two days...

Materials & supplies???
Or do you simply need laborers???

Link Posted: 10/10/2003 8:16:11 PM EDT
I am able to help out on the 25th. What do you need as far as tools? I will plan to bring basic "stuff" saws,screw guns etc. If you want any special tools like air nailers, set up a layout, material or tool list.

I can give you my e-mail at your web site if you need any special tools?
Link Posted: 10/10/2003 9:09:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2003 9:11:24 PM EDT by Cutter75]
Don't know what you envisioned for your range Jeff & John, but here's some ideas that you might implement...

1) Standard bench ranges - 25, 50, 100, with 300, and possibly 600 yd ranges...
By offering long ranges you'd be the only other place in the State besides Benchrest that would have such a facility - could generate business from people that want to experience long range shooting...

2) Covered shooting benches - for all weather activities...

3) Saw a COF (4) room house built out of stacked tires - the rubber would absorb the rounds, and make the shooting house safer...
Don't know how that would look, but it's one idea...
Saw another that had a double wall so the rounds would get trapped on the inside of the wall and not penetrate...

Here are sites that advertise in the industry forum
www.frontsight.com/
www.defensive-edge.net/
www.tigervalley.com/
Protac Global use to advertise, but I think they had server problems last I heard...

Check out the photo section under tigervalley...

Looking forward to help build a worldclass facility...


Link Posted: 10/11/2003 3:30:37 PM EDT
Try to make the range facing north, that way we will have the sun behind us.

The 600 yard range requires a lot of safety built into it. I think they need to clear about 1 mile beyond the berm as a safety zone. This takes a lot of land.

Besides Benchrest, we also have Bucksnort at Marshall MO that has 600 yd lanes. Many high power matches are shot here regularly.
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 7:16:33 PM EDT
we could easily make the silhouette reactive targets like those that are used in the shoot houses. I have seen one up close and they use a hanging target with a balloon blown up inside it to about the 8 inch diameter. The balloon holds the cardboard up. Since these hang once you shoot/pop the balloon the target falls from the hanger to the ground. Anyone actually have on of these?? The good part abut this is that, unlike steel reactive poppers, you can shoot these at close range w/o splatter back to the shooter.

Jeff D.
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 8:12:08 PM EDT
If you want to do the tire wall thing let me know, I think I can get a bunch of used tires free.
So are we definitely a go for the 25th? What about directions? What sort of supplies equipment should we bring?
Of course I realize this has to be planned out properly and that takes time so whenever you know what we need, no need to rush.
Once again thank you very much for doing this for us.
Link Posted: 10/11/2003 10:23:10 PM EDT
Jeff and John,

We really appreciate this. You guys have already done a lot to make our shoots a success, but this tops it all.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/12/2003 5:25:33 AM EDT
I as well will more than likely be there.

I have since started cutting more steel at work every chance I get. I have a feeling y'all will be goin through it really quick with the frickin SAW!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! I'll stay off the 1" plate for now, but I'll be bringing stuff up to 3/4" .

Jeff, steel is easy for me to move, so I have a billion ideas just waiting to materialize on the reactive targets.
Miranthis is right though....steel past 1/2" gives quite a spray of lead, so it probably isn't a good idea to have them in CQB COF's. But like I said, I want to build some swingers that nail into trees, hang from branchers, etc. I as well can make little stands to have them on the ground..and so on.

Jeff if you have a digital camera could you post some pix of your space? I'de like to see what you have so I can better figure on safe and fun reactives.

But I guarantee I will be out there with any tool I can bring and a lot of sweat to spare!!
Link Posted: 10/13/2003 2:18:53 PM EDT
I should be able to make this also.Are you guys planning on BBQing like you have been at the MOdcc, or something different? What kind of stuff is needed?
Link Posted: 10/13/2003 3:22:12 PM EDT
i think we are a go--jason is confirming tonight at work

if so asked, i will continue with the feeding
was thinking chili, but if its still nice, i can grill whatever y'all want--just lemme know

Link Posted: 10/13/2003 8:05:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By diabolical_chicken:
i think we are a go--jason is confirming tonight at work

if so asked, i will continue with the feeding
was thinking chili, but if its still nice, i can grill whatever y'all want--just lemme know




Chili is good...
If this is going to be a work day, then we want the eats to be easy and simple...
Don't want you to get tired of feeding us, now do we??? {grin}

Jason -your wife is so sweet, you lucky dog, er, guy...

Link Posted: 10/13/2003 9:08:18 PM EDT
Man it's been a while since I've been on here. Congrats on the range Jeff, sounds great, if you can use another hand, I'll try and make it out there, hopefully I'll have taken my monster buck by then, lol. Got a question, same one I asked before we started out at the conservation range, will we be able to use tannerites at the new place? I'm really itching to make some up again. Never seem to have a good place and the right crowd to use them.
Justin
Link Posted: 10/13/2003 11:53:09 PM EDT
Dude...
I'm going to take a stab at this - from what I recall Jeff saying...

Tannerite is a go...
He basically said it's his property, and he can do pretty much anything he wants there...

Just image a COF with a tannerite target that you have to hit before you can proceed to the next shooting position...

Lights, camera, tannerite...
go...

Was wondering where you disappeared to...
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 6:31:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 3:03:18 PM EDT
The 25th huh? Well I just started a job yesterday and I get paid on the 24th. How conveeeeenient!
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 3:59:11 PM EDT
Exxxxccceeellleeennntttt. (Folding hands like Mr. Burns) Gonna try to make it out there to help. Just have your dirt guy leave his equipment and I'll take over, lol. (I'm in the excavation business), I would offer to do some with our equipment but it's all being used on the new basketball arena and other jobs at MU. Later
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 7:56:21 PM EDT
jeff-

a stove is hardly a requirement--im still glad there will be a decent inside toilet!!!


i just cook what makes the boys happy--which is usually pretty easy

since the shoots are getting bigger, i just asked for a few dollars to cover costs and i do the work--if you want to give me raw meat, i will grill it
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 8:01:58 PM EDT
me and FNMI_Rifleman are most likely good to go.


Jsut keep us posted... i.e. time, etc.
Link Posted: 10/14/2003 8:38:47 PM EDT
Can't make it that weekend. Got oncall at work.
But I'd bee happy to come out any other weekend.
Except this weekend, Tulsa gunshow.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 11:28:10 AM EDT
I think I have a wedding to go to. I have to check with the sexratary. I'll make it if I can.
Link Posted: 10/16/2003 4:09:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/16/2003 4:10:03 PM EDT by kpel308]

Originally Posted By cgebhard:
I think I have a wedding to go to. I have to check with the sexratary. I'll make it if I can.


Freudian slip?
Link Posted: 10/20/2003 5:09:30 PM EDT
No slippage at all... my wife is my sexratary...
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 4:18:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CMMG:
Tannerite is fine with us; ...
Guys, we are just starting from ground zero here, so don't expect too much on the range. Right now, it is a couple of hillsides with trees on the sides and a car & washing machine in the middle.



Ummmm, scratch the washing machine and half the car. LOL
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 4:42:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nascar3n8fan:

Originally Posted By CMMG:
Tannerite is fine with us; ...
Guys, we are just starting from ground zero here, so don't expect too much on the range. Right now, it is a couple of hillsides with trees on the sides and a car & washing machine in the middle.



Ummmm, scratch the washing machine and half the car. LOL



You didn't tannerite it did you? I hope I didn't miss that. Please tell me you have picts...
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 8:08:50 PM EDT
Yeah, Gary...

The washing machine is no more...

The lid blew up high over the treetops, and two pieces came flying up toward us by the trucks...
(We did take the precaution to move further back before opening fire)...

One of Jeff's friends manned the SAW, Nascar3n8fan & I were on our AR15's...
The SAW got out 10 rounds in the time that I got off one - nascar didn't get one round off...

BOOM!!!

We also put a bottle in the pumpkin I brought and set in on the escort roof...
Needless to say the roof was cover in what looked like pumpkin pie mix, but there was also a basketball sized hole in the roof of the car...

Thanks, Nascar3n8fan - you made the day...

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