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Posted: 9/2/2003 2:11:09 PM EDT
I've decided to once again make my system a dual-boot with both Linux and Windows 98!

I've done this in the past (about 2 years ago) when I was in the dorms... Back then I installed RedHat 6 with Win98, which I thought sucked. Then I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 with Win98, and that was a kick-a$$ combination! I could do all kinds of fun things with that setup. However, after changing majors I went with a Win98 only system (I was no longer CSCI). Now I'm working on taking a couple more CSCI classes to get my minor, and will need Linux again.

Since I no longer could download the free Linux from the net (I'm off DSL, and on Dial-up), I had to BUY it... Isn't that an oxymoronic thing to do... BUY FREE SOFTWARE!!!

Oh well. Those of you in the know can realize how it's pretty tough to get a modem running in Linux (at least it was for me last time)... Wish me luck. I'll check in at computer labs from time to time to make sure you're all behaving yourselves, and not posting BOTD threads, Porn, etc... I'll hopefully have this thing back & running later tonight, but I'm thinking (realistically) not...

See ya later.

-iNuhBaD
Link Posted: 9/2/2003 5:38:17 PM EDT
SWEET!!!

I got my RedHat Linux 9 x86 installed now, and it's configured properly for serving web pages, FTP, TELNET, SENDMAIL, and programming for C, C++, PERL, and HTML (my four favorites)!

I'm now going to try installing my Windows 98 on the other side of the HD. Windows gets picky on dual-boot systems, so wish me luck!!!

-iNuhBaD
Link Posted: 9/2/2003 7:03:05 PM EDT


SON OF A F(_)CKING B!TCH!!!

I SWEAR TO EVERYTHING HOLY THAT IF I DIDN'T NEED THIS P.O.S. COMPUTER FOR SCHOOL THAT IT WOULD BE AERATED AND LEFT FOR DEAD IN PRINCETON MINNESOTA!!!

F(_)CK!!! HOW COULD I BE SO IGNORANT!!!

Guess what I did wrong this evening??? I installed RedHat Linux 9 BEFORE INSTALLING WINDOWS 98!!! HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN THE ORDER!!! SON OF A DUNCE B!TCH!

SH!T... I spent all this time PERFECTLY configuring a CUSTOM SERVER installation of RedHat Linux which (some of you KNOW) is a MAJOR F(_)CKING PAIN IN THE A$$!!! Only to THEN remember that you're supposed to install WINDOWS FIRST, otherwise the two DON'T WORK TOGETHER!!!

Now I have to:

-COMPLETELY NUKE ALL HD PARTITIONS!!!
-REPARTITION FOR WINDOWS!!!
-FORMAT!!!
-INSTALL WINDOWS 98
-SETUP & CONFIGURE EVERYTHING IN WINDOWS 98
-REPARTITION FOR BOTH WINDOWS 98 & Linux
-RE-INSTALL RedHat Linux 9
-CUSTOMLY CONFIGURE IT FOR MY NEEDS (As Server, Firewall, Development Platform, and HomePC Client uses)
-THEN further customize its settings after installation is completed!
-MANUALLY create a dial-up to access University Servers (because they HATE people who use Linux/Unix base at home)
-THEN RE-BOOKMARK ALL OF MY FAVORITE AR15.com & GUN RELATED WEBSITES!!!

Dammit! This is going to be a LONG F(_)CKING NIGHT!
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I would like to apologize to all of you who have wasted time by reading this thread. I hoped that you all would have the depth of character to keep civilized in my absence, and now I realize that it was ME who was spouting out all this horrendous profanity through my potty-mouth. For that I'm truly sorry.

I'm just frustrated. After spending several hours working on this computer, and FINALLY having the BIGGEST HURDLE completed; Well, only THEN do I realize that I wasted all that time because I COMPLETELY SCREWED UP THE Dual-Boot INSTALLATION PROCESS!!! I've rarely been more frustrated with my own idiocy than I am tonight.

Have a great night, and I'll hopefully have this thing working by tomorrow... It appears as though my initial assessment of this endeavor were right on the money. I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up...

-iNuhBaDNayburhoodInABadMoodBecauseIRoyallyScr­ewedUpMyComputer&WastedTONSofValuableTime...
Link Posted: 9/2/2003 7:38:03 PM EDT
Ahhhh...what?
Link Posted: 9/2/2003 8:22:04 PM EDT
Dude. Have you ever used Partition Magic? I think it resizes EXT2 partitions just fine. So it shouldn't matter if you install Linux first. IM me if you want details
Link Posted: 9/3/2003 8:10:20 AM EDT
HEY! Thanks for the reminder! I bought Partition Magic about 6 years ago. I found my old CD & serial # for PM 4, and futzed with the partitions. I'll know in a few minutes if it worked well... Thanks for the reminder! It works much better than the GUI based LINUX partitioners, and the Text based DOS ones...

Going back offline now... (Gotta get Linux on now)
Link Posted: 9/3/2003 11:46:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sleepy717:
Ahhhh...what?









what he said.
Link Posted: 9/3/2003 2:39:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2003 2:47:16 PM EDT by iNuhBaDNayburhood]
FINALLY! I'm finished with my Dual-Boot system.

I now have Linux RedHat 9 x86 Operating system installed on my computer in conjunction with Windows 98!!!

I have the best of both worlds. I'm now able to host my own servers for FTP, HTTP, TELNET, SENDMAIL, and many other things. I'm also able to develop software in C, C++, Java, JavaScript, PERL, HTML, XML, and many many other things!!! PLUS I have the WINDOWS 98 to give me compatible software with other homePC users running Microsoft systems! The ultimate in compatibility and capability! Though running a Solaris x86 operating system would likely be even better, I do not have that option... But who cares!? I have a good enough setup now as it is...

Now I'm a happy little boy again. All is right with the world. (Sort of)

HEY FIZZASSIST, The Partition Magic DOES partition EXT2 partitions just fine. However, RedHat Linux Version 9 is supposed to work on EXT3 partitions better than on EXT2 partitions. I was having problems with the partition tables getting messed up while making some VFAT/FAT32 File Allocation Tables and others partitioned and formatted as EXT2 for Linux. I took your advice, and partitioned for Windows 98/VFAT (already installed/configured), and then altered the free space to make EXT2 and SWAP partitions for my "/", "SWAP", and "/boot" drive partitions! THEN when I did the Linux Setup it asked me if I wanted to convert the EXT2 into EXT3, so I did & formatted them... THEN finished with the custom installation of the operating system. Now everything works PERFECT!!!
Link Posted: 9/3/2003 8:40:42 PM EDT
Dude had I know I'd have sold you a P2 333 machine that I have laying around for like $50.

doh! at least you got it sorted out though.
Link Posted: 9/3/2003 8:58:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By iNuhBaDNayburhood:
HEY FIZZASSIST, The Partition Magic DOES partition EXT2 partitions just fine. However, RedHat Linux Version 9 is supposed to work on EXT3 partitions better than on EXT2 partitions. I was having problems with the partition tables getting messed up while making some VFAT/FAT32 File Allocation Tables and others partitioned and formatted as EXT2 for Linux. I took your advice, and partitioned for Windows 98/VFAT (already installed/configured), and then altered the free space to make EXT2 and SWAP partitions for my "/", "SWAP", and "/boot" drive partitions! THEN when I did the Linux Setup it asked me if I wanted to convert the EXT2 into EXT3, so I did & formatted them... THEN finished with the custom installation of the operating system. Now everything works PERFECT!!!



Congrats! Now for the next level:

Have you heard of CodeWeavers? They make something called CrossOver Office that lets you run MS office natively under Linux! I have also used it to run a number of other Windows programs like Adobe Acrobat and Photoshop.

I no longer do dual-boot systems. For serious work systems, I do the following:

Latest working version of Redhat + CrossOver Office. This gives me a stable Linux platform to work on but lets me edit MS files.

For my notebook or play computers, I do the following:

Windows XP pro + cygwin full install. This gives me the multimedia capabilities of Windows and lets me run oddball things that CrossOver won't. Cygwin is like "Redhat for Windows" and comes with an X windows server and all the standard development tools, editors, etc. That allows me to do work in a familiar environment even though I'm on a Windows machine.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 5:39:26 PM EDT
I had dual-boot going for a while with Win 98 and Red Hat. I didn't have the time to learn Linux, so I formatted and converted the partition.

The thing is, when I installed, I used GRUB as the loader(I think I had the option of GRUB and LILO.) I believe it was installed on the master boot record, I guess, so now when I turn the computer on I still have the option of RH or Win. Is there any way I can get rid of that, so my comp boots right up into Wondows?

It's not anything but a minor annoyance as it is right now, just wondering if I can get rid of it.

I suppose it really doesn't matter just for the fact that hopefully as soon as next week I'll have a new computer, and this one will be taken care of with a couple hundred rounds of .223 and .45 each.
Link Posted: 9/5/2003 6:01:52 PM EDT
If you could find a way to set the Win98 partition as the active boot drive, you could use Fdisk, or the text-based linux partitioning software to delete the /boot partition. The best thing I know of to fix that is Partition Magic though. It will both delete the /boot, and it will also set the active boot drive to the Win98 partition. It also will allow you to expand your Win98 partition into the newly freed space from the boot drive (expanding the HD size). But if you're going to shoot it, all I can say is HAVE FUN!!! POW!!!
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