I took the Defensive Rifle course in April 2003.Only two other guys showed up besides me.One of which was Ben Kurata who teaches pistol courses there.We actually benefitted because we got better hands-on training.If you take the August classes (Rifle 1 and 2) with Joe Jorden, be prepared to shoot at least 1000 rounds.He is a former Delta operator and member of SF with 28 or 29 combat missions under his belt.He teaches a unique aggressive style you don't find much anywhere else in the civilian world.He teaches you to use your AR for home defense (mostly under 50yds in the 1st class).I wish I could go to the advanced class in August but i'm moving.I'll have to catch him next year.Make sure you test out all equipment you'll be bringing and make sure your iron sights are sighted in fairly good.