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Posted: 1/1/2006 4:27:30 AM EDT
my director called and informed me that I had made the cut, but he didn't know how only two people were going to cover 24/7 and not draw any OT, said he has a meeting scheduled with the gov. next week and maybe he'd be able to tell him how we were going to evade getting reamed royaly by the feds and state for not having gamming commission on site 24 hours a day, I'll keep ya'll updated as things unfurl round here, fuckers let go three damn good people and I hope it bites the gov in the ass.


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Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:41:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ndenway:
my director called and informed me that I had made the cut, but he didn't know how only two people were going to cover 24/7 and not draw any OT, said he has a meeting scheduled with the gov. next week and maybe he'd be able to tell him how we were going to evade getting reamed royaly by the feds and state for not having gamming commission on site 24 hours a day, I'll keep ya'll updated as things unfurl round here, fuckers let go three damn good people and I hope it bites the gov in the ass.


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The Gov. had to cut costs to pay for his trip to the OU bowl game and pay for the troopers to cart his kids back and forth to school in Shawnee.

Two people can cover the 24 hour shift by working for "fun" for an extra 4 hrs. per day. Our Gov. seems to be as dumb as he sounds, and that is pretty dumb. I have never seen a Gov. do less in his term than Brad Henry.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:51:02 PM EDT
Nden way, glad to hear you made the cut. No job searching for you yet. Hang in there bro, hopefully things will get better. From what you've said about everything going on things couldn't get too much worse out there.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:03:22 PM EDT
although BH is a fuck up, the Gov. I'm speaking of is the tribal Gov that runs the casino I work at, spoke with our depts. office girls this morning and they were real surprised all five of us on the team didn't get cut, appearently the gov wanted all of us gone and the director was able to at least save two positions (me because I'm tribal and have some influnce with the bigger families), but even he's not sure what we'll be doing, I'll be real surprised if I make out the month, whats going to bite the gov/tribe and casino in the ass is that one of the people that got cut is an ex-BIA agent, the gov either didn't realize that or is a lot more ignorant than I originaly thought, this person has worked closely for many years with alot of people and made a lot of close contacts in the alphabit club, I'd be surprised in the least should they be making calls right now and advising them as to the situation in the casino.

got that feeling the sghtf soon.


MLW
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 5:03:51 AM EDT
So what is it you do again NDN? Security? Are you armed? If so, just get the hell out of the tribal stuff and go work some other armed security. The pay should be about the same and if you got yer "card" then you should have some benefits regardless if you are even employed or not.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:28:35 PM EDT
I'm with the gamming commission right now(paid better/benifits than security), I've got an app in with the hospital, couple of our guys went there, but they got an LE background and thats what their looking for right now, probably gonna go back to work for the chickashas, they top out at $12.75/hr as armed security, all the job offers I got for armed/licensed elsewhere ranged between $6.75 and $8.50/hr and no benifits.

t-bird is listed as a hostile work environment at the employment office, I figure if they can me, I'll sit on my ass and draw 26 weeks on'em then fall back into security work after a long paid vacation.


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Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:36:17 PM EDT
Dude, that's some shitty pay for armed officers. I think they start out at $8.50 or $9 here, which is still damn low for the job.

I'm not disparaging your work, but holy crap, that sucks.

Of course, I'm one to talk. I work my ass off all day long (and sometimes all night, like last night) for no pay at all.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:10:07 PM EDT
there are some security jobs around the metro that pay in the $15+ range, but the ones I've checked out want LE or military experience, I applied anyway, but I haven't heard from any of them, found the casinos pay on avg. the highest in this part on the state, most don't even require the person be licensed, I am so I ask for better starting pay and have got it in the past.

if you think the casino security gets paid low wages, its on par and in some cases higher than what most counties pay its deputies, I took the gamming commission job cause it paid more than what my security supervisors was making and I got better/cheaper family med/dent/vis ins. and vacation and sick time(1 day each/month) on top of alloted one week plus I worked for the tribe, this new gov. that took over in june changed all of that and put us back under the casino general mgt.

One thing I am learning is how the laws and casinos/tribe interact, gonna help me alot when I run for gov. in a few years, I been researching how the tribe/casino can prosicute theft from them, since for the most part they can't prosicute anybody thats not indian, but for theft there a law CFR title 18 that will allow prosicution for anyone for theft of $5 or more, its got a hell of a fine, for $5-$1000 the penalty is a fine up to $100,000 and/or 20yrs imprisionment, for amounts greater than $1000 the penalty is a fine of no less than $100,000 nor greater than $250,000 and/or 20yrs inprisionment, thing about it though is that the tribal police have to push it to the BIA and the BIA will push it through the federal system, but the tribal police answer to the tribal gov. so he's not going to allow them to do their job,
there has to be an honest gov in office for the tribe to move forward, thing about being honest and following P&P is that your probably only going to be elected to one 2 year term, but thats the only way I can see myself being, gotta make examples outta the theifs and fuckoffs and start running the place like a buisiness to make as much money as possible, not like the mom and pop shop its being run like now, I'll be surprised if T-Bird doesn't close its doors by first of summer.

anyway with the passing of HB712 and the resulting state/tribal compact, these indian casinos are a passing fad, they'll eventually be taxed outta buisiness by the state, through their shortsightedness and greed the tribal governments have pretty much killed their future gamming oppertunities, already by signing 712 they've had to start paying taxes on not only gamming revinues but also gas and ciggerettes, and the state is going to ammend laws to increase their taxes in Feb. by ammending the Johnson Act, since the tribes agreed to follow all applical state laws on gamming, the state doesn't have to negotiate the compact, they just change the laws and if the tribes want to continue gamming then they have to comply.

some of the people in my tribe that were pushing everyone to vote for 712 are now saying that the tribes were "tricked" into signing, I like to tell them to STFU, that if they wern't so blinded by greed they would have "read" farther than the first paragraph of the compact, I read the rough draft of the compact last year and its pretty much the same as what was voted in, I was telling everybody that would listen that it was a bad deal for the tribes but very few took the warning, what 712 did essentally was sign away what rights we have as a soverign nation, in 6 to 8 years they'll be regular "Vegas" style casinos/gambling here in the state that few tribal casinos will be able to compeat with(theres already casinos at the horse tracks) and in 10 to 15 years the tribes will lose their soverign rights, they'll be paying the state taxes for everything including property.

well enough of my whinning, I'm starting to sound like Rat.

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Link Posted: 1/4/2006 3:42:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ndenway: well enough of my whinning, I'm starting to sound like Rat.

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WHAT? I don't whine? When did I EVER whine about anything???
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 4:42:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RatTerrier:

Originally Posted By Ndenway: well enough of my whinning, I'm starting to sound like Rat.

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WHAT? I don't whine? When did I EVER whine about anything???




in some of your drunk post, coulda been the booze, but it was diffinent whinning.
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