Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No these guys were off duty. They were up in Adair county if I remember right. When I first heard about it I thiught they were BSing. I know both of these guys and they aint lying. I do not think someone was playing a joke on them either.  Knowing these two I am suprised that there was not one dead bigfoot. Must of never got a shot. Thought it might have been the incidents that were reported in the summer of 2004. Guess not! I've never seen one, probably never will in the wild. But the videotape that has been mentioned was seen by some people I know and they were "spooked" talking about it. The whole thing about this topic is people either say it's possible, it ain't possible, and it's a sure thing. Me, I say it's more than probable SOMETHING is out there. I want to see the video.

It's been destroyed.
BTW I cant believe you didn't thin the sammich thing was funny

I'm so hurt.

Quoted: Quoted: Lot of weed smokers in Okla I hear probably an equal amount of meth use going on nowdays. and I've been told by more worldly indians than myself, "that you'll never travel so far, nor see God quite as clearly as when chewing on a piece of peyote", now I've never seen God, but I've spoke to him a few times, and I've been to 42 of the lower 48 and to canada and mexico, but if smoking pot makes you see bigfoot, then let me have a couple of tokes, cause I'm ready, I want to see a real life dinosuar, a wooly mamoth and the lochness monster also, and to me, smoking a little pot would be well worth doing if I would get to see what I want. To add: I have no dought that these animals exist or once existed, and I cannot discount the sighting of others as I have no evidence to ponder, but if there is a place to see any of these things, I will travel, hell I'll even go an pick up acman to ride shotgun, and we will bring back some pics or the animal should one be unlucky enough to let itself be seen.

Fuck me as big as me and you are they will be shooting video and taken pictures of us saying we were bigfoot. I'll be the short/baby bigfoot

I'm in bro if your buying gas I'll buy whiskey and beer never know we may see something.
If nothing else the bottom of a bottle.

hell acman, maybe we can run across a couple of tweaker bi-lesbian chicks that snort, smoke, drink, cuss and make videos, now that would be a trip, bigfoot would probably show up just about the time I was about to bust a nut on one of the lesbians, and I wouldn't know who to shoot.

The video was destroyed, erased, whatever. It is NOT available to see. The Indians DID NOT want the creatures bothered, the notoriety, the bad ju-ju....who knows why it was made unavailable.
Hell, the California video made in 1967 has been debunked for decades as faked. Maybe that is why they were reluctant to show the video from the Lucky Starr.
If acman and Ndenway go hunting for bigfoot, GEEZ, we could make a movie off of that and get rich.
Something offensive for everyone...an equally offensive opportunity for the whole country!
There are things going on we don't know about concerning Bigfoot. Even the US Army has made plaster casts of footprints in Sequoyah County. Even the ODWC has some. They may have more, who knows?

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lot of weed smokers in Okla I hear probably an equal amount of meth use going on nowdays. and I've been told by more worldly indians than myself, "that you'll never travel so far, nor see God quite as clearly as when chewing on a piece of peyote", now I've never seen God, but I've spoke to him a few times, and I've been to 42 of the lower 48 and to canada and mexico, but if smoking pot makes you see bigfoot, then let me have a couple of tokes, cause I'm ready, I want to see a real life dinosuar, a wooly mamoth and the lochness monster also, and to me, smoking a little pot would be well worth doing if I would get to see what I want. To add: I have no dought that these animals exist or once existed, and I cannot discount the sighting of others as I have no evidence to ponder, but if there is a place to see any of these things, I will travel, hell I'll even go an pick up acman to ride shotgun, and we will bring back some pics or the animal should one be unlucky enough to let itself be seen. Fuck me as big as me and you are they will be shooting video and taken pictures of us saying we were bigfoot. I'll be the short/baby bigfoot I'm in bro if your buying gas I'll buy whiskey and beer never know we may see something. If nothing else the bottom of a bottle.

damn! acman, havn't you seen the "price of gas thread", I think the booze would be cheaper now days, aaaahhhhhh! who cares, gonna make at least several million for a few creditible pics, and at least three times that for a body on e-bay, maybe even more if its live, I know if its dead, I'm gonna have it stuffed and put in the stoval muesem, and if its alive, I'm gonna share with eveyone and sell it to the OKC zoo ( this last parts provided nobodies buying offa ebay).
then with my share of the dough, I'm gonna hire some lesbians, for daily shows, showing several times a day, to share with the OKla. board members, foreign states invited also, for a nominal fee of course, (gotta cover the overhead), hell, I might even buy a few guns or so, and a couple of mules, brown ones, to match the color of my grass, just gonna blow the rest on shit I want.

Ndenway, if you and Acman actually shot a Bigfoot, you two would have a knock-down drag out fight to see who would get the " last dying quiver"!
The thought of you two going after a Bigfoot scares me. No dog, grandma, or breathing animal would be safe if you two got a load on and decided to "probe" it!

www.bfro.net/avevid/SierraSounds/911.asp#911
Bigfoot 911 call. Fellow sounds like he was about to shit his drawers!

Quoted: www.bfro.net/avevid/SierraSounds/911.asp#911 Bigfoot 911 call. Fellow sounds like he was about to shit his drawers!

The caller said what he saw was a big "person" lots of tall, big people walking around, and I am sure some of them are up to no good.

Dont get me wrong guys, I am not saying ole bigfoot does not exist, BUT at the same time, I need more proof than a few noises recorded in woods and a 911 tape about a prowler.

Lets see the tapes that were recorded recently, I am sure they were not "destoryed" someone is bound to have them, lets see the blood and hair samples that were tested, It does not matter if they were not matched to anything on file, the results would still be out there.  If the results are as some of you say, then they will show a no known match, no problem.

I am asking for more proof, thats all, nothing I dont ask for in any other matter, show me.

Dr. Henner Fahrenbach Report


Here is a eport from Dr. Henner Fahrenbach from the BFRO concerning the Carter Case and some of the first hair samples sent in by Janice.  These 3 samples were found by Janice and Gene McCauley in the hay loft of an old barn where Fox reportedly has been sleeping for many years.







 -----Original Message-----
From: HennerF@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hair

Dear Jan and Mary,

(xxxx) You sent three samples. Sample #1 had a nice little bunch of hair in it (far more than is needed!), which turned out to be identical to #3. They are, in my book, sasquatch. The hair measured between 30 and 60 microns in diameter (rather fine), had no medulla except for one of the thicker hairs, which had a very short section of basal medulla that became fragmentary after about a mm and then petered out. The pigmentation was extremely dense, more so than on any hair of presumptive sasquatch origin that I have seen to date. All the hair had the typical reddish cast that I associate with this species and had small condensations of dark pigment, but not the large elongated ones one sees in bovine hair. The thickest hairs were almost opaque, even under the microscope, where one can really illuminate it very intensely. So I would expect the creature of origin to have been very dark colored, at least in the area where this hair came from. There were a good number of attached roots, but that only means that the hair got tugged at as it came out.

Sample #2 was totally different, white in the center and a bit pigmented at either end. The middle of the hair was expanded and slightly flattened, an area that is called a shield and is found in a variety of mammals. This one I didn't worry about too much but it might have been some rodent.

Well, I hope it gets to you this time! My best, Henner.



www.bigfootlady.net/Carter_Case.html
Lots of info out there. I have no opinion one way or the other.

Quoted: I am asking for more proof, thats all, nothing I dont ask for in any other matter, show me.

Respectfully, with that type of thinking, Columbus would never have set sail for the Western Hemisphere, you have no assurance there really is a North Pole, etc.
The best stance is to "neither deny or confirm" in matters we are unsure of.
You can only guess at some things, like what Ndenway is dreaming! NOW that I am sure is SCARY!

Quoted: Quoted: I am asking for more proof, thats all, nothing I dont ask for in any other matter, show me. Respectfully, with that type of thinking, Columbus would never have set sail for the Western Hemisphere, you have no assurance there really is a North Pole, etc. The best stance is to "neither deny or confirm" in matters we are unsure of. You can only guess at some things, like what Ndenway is dreaming! NOW that I am sure is SCARY!

I disagree, wanting more proof is why men like Columbus set sail to prove that something else did exist.

In matters we are un sure of, then we need to dent or confirm that it exists.

as for Ndenway, well I am glad we dont have dream vision software.

Ya'll have nothing to fear from the dreams, its the sleep walking that you have to worry about.
as a matter afact, I just woke up from five hours of uninteruted sleep, and I don't think I had a dream at all, but I had to do the janitor thing and do so mopping, because the floor in front of the stools was all wet, and I don't remember getting up to take a piss.

Quoted: Ya'll have nothing to fear from the dreams, its the sleep walking that you have to worry about. as a matter afact, I just woke up from five hours of uninteruted sleep, and I don't think I had a dream at all, but I had to do the janitor thing and do so mopping, because the floor in front of the stools was all wet, and I don't remember getting up to take a piss.

More than  I really needed to know....

I don't know what Bigfoot is, but something does exist. As far as DNA evidence, it is out there and elvisp pointed some out. Time will eventually prove one way or another whether it is a bogus issue or not.
The tape at Concho did exist - I know someone who tried everything possible to get it and he had a position of real authority to do so. He believes in the Concho Chicken Man even though he never saw it. Being in law enforcement, he is skeptical of almost everything. But this is one thing he believes in!

hey wheres that maverick dude I told to watch this in some other post, he hadn't input anything to futher this discussion, I still want to see a bigfoot creature, even a high rez video would do, may have to go visit lucky star and see if I can see the chicken man, or to SE OK. with a pork chop around my neck, but damnit I will eventually see one.

Pork chops won't work. You need a deer liver to bring out the Bigfoot.  I remember seeing pictures of a dead deer with the liver removed by being ripped out. There were no cuts by a knife, only ripped flesh like a strong hand breaking open the rib cage and jerking out the liver. I believe that was on one of the Bigfoot shows on the History Channel.

Quoted: I believe that was on one of the Bigfoot shows on the History Channel.

well now I see where my research derailed, I don't get the history channel, my tv only chatches 4,9 and pbs, guess I need to update to the latter twentieth century and purchase a satalite receiver. , and I'll have to  remember deer liver for bigfoot, pork chop was what I used to get the dogs to play with me as a kid, money for women ect. ect.............................

L. if you hang a deer liver off your neck to look for bigfoot, it will have to be  in the woods, not under a Coors or Budweiser sign at your local pub!

.....deer liver + woods = bigfoot......check
.....deer liver + woods = bigfoot......check

.....coors + bud + bar = drunk women.......check
.....coors + bud + bar = drunk women.......check

.....bigfoot + booze + women = lotsa money.......check
.....bigfoot + booze + women = lotsa money.......check


thanks Dan, got my priorities straiten'd out now, made my list and checked it twice.

Quoted: Quoted: I believe that was on one of the Bigfoot shows on the History Channel. well now I see where my research derailed, I don't get the history channel, my tv only chatches 4,9 and pbs, guess I need to update to the latter twentieth century and purchase a satalite receiver. , and I'll have to  remember deer liver for bigfoot, pork chop was what I used to get the dogs to play with me as a kid, money for women ect. ect.............................

Let me guess... Your name is Elmer Dinkley and your phone number is 9.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe that was on one of the Bigfoot shows on the History Channel. well now I see where my research derailed, I don't get the history channel, my tv only chatches 4,9 and pbs, guess I need to update to the latter twentieth century and purchase a satalite receiver. , and I'll have to  remember deer liver for bigfoot, pork chop was what I used to get the dogs to play with me as a kid, money for women ect. ect............................. Let me guess... Your name is Elmer Dinkley and your phone number is 9.

no my names posted above, and I got one of the 7 digit numbers, since I finally got a phone in 96',
before then I did all my corespondence the same way I clean the scratch marks outta my shorts, I shouted them out, or used the us mail.

Quoted: .....deer liver + woods = bigfoot......check .....deer liver + woods = bigfoot......check .....coors + bud + bar = drunk women.......check .....coors + bud + bar = drunk women.......check .....bigfoot + booze + women = lotsa money.......check .....bigfoot + booze + women = lotsa money.......check thanks Dan, got my priorities straiten'd out now, made my list and checked it twice.

Trying to be naughty and nice?
ROFLMAO
L. you crack me up, brother!

no Dan, thats nice and naughty, wait'n for 11pm., nothing goes on around norman till about 11, so thought I'd post abit, feeling kinda loose these past few days due to a lack of sleep and cheap bourbon and wal mart brand coke.

speaking of coke, anybody ever tried snorting some?, I tried once, and damn near drowned.

Went out to the Lucky Star the other night. The police station across from the casino got changed back into a smoke shop. They are also serving beer now and in a few months probably mixed drinks!
Talked to the bartender about the "chicken man" and he didn't have a clue what I was talking about. He had only been there a few months. He must have thought I was off my rocker.

damn, cheynnen-arapahos even got them a bigfoot, but my casino had elvis in it, and plenty of ghosts to go around.

L. I ain't kidding about that Bigfoot at Concho. They've got a ofice tralier out back for the Security - where the dumpsters are. A good friend who lives in that area talks about crap they saw as teen agers in the early 60s on the rail road tracks running through the tribal area.
The PD had a shooting range in the middle of the "chicken man" woods, near those tracks.
I spent a few afternoons out there before they shut it down for EPA concerns. Once the hair was raised on the back of my neck and on two others. Two of us had ARs, the other a 308, but we were still scared by something we DIDN'T SEE OR HEAR.
I didn't go back out there again and I don't believe the other guys did either. All BS aside, there is something strange at Concho.

They caught him (bigfoot) hufffin' krylon and scratchin' pull tabs out back at concho.  They even got a pic before he fled into the woods:

That ain't no "bigfoot". That's an Aggie Phd!

Quoted: That ain't no "bigfoot". That's an Aggie Phd!

Damn thats a good one Dan

Dr. Bigfoot, paint huffer, trash digger

Having been faculty at the University of Oklahoma, I am very familiar with many of the top academics in the state. The picture of the OSU alumni, doctoral graduate, is typical of the Aggies.
At OU, the top academics have brown stuff on their face, and it ain't paint!

You people are funny, the skeptics are not going to believe unless a carcass is recovered and the believers are not going to be detered by the skeptics,why argue?
Even those that have had encounters need to be skeptical because I have seen people that after an encounter see Bigfoot behind every bush.
We will one day have a target of opportunity and bring one in, then it will be settled.    

Quoted: You people are funny, the skeptics are not going to believe unless a carcass is recovered and the believers are not going to be detered by the skeptics,why argue? Even those that have had encounters need to be skeptical because I have seen people that after an encounter see Bigfoot behind every bush. We will one day have a target of opportunity and bring one in, then it will be settled.

I know a guy who saw something in his backyard.  He was a member here at one point.  The skeptics laughed at him.  Name was Rosokill.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely believe there is something to the bigfoot issue. Also, I believe there is more than one species in THIS STATE! People would think I am nuts if I said something like someone has proof of a bigfoot but is waiting for the highest bidder or avoiding ridicule and harassment or both. I can't prove it but I really think that is actually happening!
It's a fact that some zoning permits in the NW USA are denied because of "endangered species" which include Bigfoot. Now how in the hell can a government agency deny people use of their land for an "unknown species" listed as an "endangered species"?
All you can do is hold onto your beliefs and laugh at the fun that is poked at those beliefs.
I guess we'll just have to take a wait and see attitude.

Where Rosokill lives has had a history of "sightings" since the 1920's.
He could have encountered something interesting.
The people whom are serious about proving the existence of Bigfoot are not going to be forthcoming in their information until they have something concrete.
It is a matter of being in the right place at the right time.  
When one is brought to the public you better believe the SHTF with the enviromental activist and the timber companies pulling in two different directions. You just "think" the spotted owl was a nightmare.
The timber companies in SE OK and Ark have been exterminating these things on sight for decades to protect the multi- BILLION dollar a year timber industry and the locals doing the shooting have adopted the Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up  company line to protect their jobs.

Quoted: The timber companies in SE OK and Ark have been exterminating these things on sight for decades to protect the multi- BILLION dollar a year timber industry and the locals doing the shooting have adopted the Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up  company line to protect their jobs.

Some of those local "yokels" or rednecked bubbas are a lot sneakier than the companies and might be looking to make the BIG BUCKS that the possession of bigfoot would bring them. They gotta duck when they see federal LE agencies looking at them for what they MAY ALREADY HAVE!
One sighting in Sequoyah County resulted in foot prints going to the US ARMY in Fort Smith, Ark.
Now why in the hell would the US Army be involved in something like that?
Yeah, there's BIG BUCKS involved in proving the existence of Bigfoot and most likely BIGGER BUCKS involved in seeing it isn't proven. Don't forget oil companies as well as timber companies. All very important to national defense.!
Why in the hell do some things have to be so complicated?

hell I'm all for a cover up, provided its my bigfoot thats getting covered up, and I'm making a shitload of cash offa it,  if not than I'm going ahead with my zoo or stoval muesem plan, if that don't pan out, then I'll let him go on my mom's acrege, and he can play with the jaguars thats running around.

Quoted: I'm going ahead with my zoo or stoval muesem plan, if that don't pan out, then I'll let him go on my mom's acrege, and he can play with the jaguars thats running around.

That plan doesn't involve "mounting" one, does it?

Quoted:

That plan doesn't involve "mounting" one, does it?

well not at this moment, unless its a female, then I might offer share my pork chop with her, and D, I don't know bout the mounting then, but they'll be plenty of stuffin to go around.

Omg..anither gov't coverup.. Who shot bigfoot. Was it a lone gunman or did he have a partner on the
grassy hill?? Will we ever know. I f the army is involved can the mafia and cia be far behind??
OMG I was never here and never have heard of any of you. For that matter I have never even been to Okla. Has antbody seen anyone buying and Garicano rifles????

OK_Lawman, I had to talk a long time to keep some tribal policemen from actually trying to snipe one of the Concho chicken men. They were talking about its patterns, its traffic routes, how to set up with a NV scope over the probable routes. Basically I told them there would be serious consequences that no one could foresee and in the long term, extremely detrimental to their welfare.
Yeah, one of the set ups they discussed did involve a "grassy knoll". And more than "one shooter".
No the mafia or CIA was not involved!
One discussion involved me setting up a surveillance system to catch it on tape. It was about to go until the whole tribal PD got fired or laid off due to tribal politics. Since then, I don't have any idea about what is going on out there, concerning the chicken man - bigfoot or tribal politics.
If the Indians didn't want the notoriety or bad ju-ju from the tape they had, can you imagine what companies with the timber rights or mineral rights to MILLIONS of acres want to do concerning bigfoot?
And if you are that naive about government agencies - including the Army! - being involved with American industry that pertains to national defense, I don't know what to tell you!

One of my friends in Crescent is looking to kill Bigfoot. It is now personal - it had to be Bigfoot that robbed him. The size 18 shoe print on the door from where it got kicked in really pissed him off!

Quoted: One of my friends in Crescent is looking to kill Bigfoot. It is now personal - it had to be Bigfoot that robbed him. The size 18 shoe print on the door from where it got kicked in really pissed him off!

musta been a runt

Back to the top so just everyone can be reinspired! Pack your sammiches and "bigfoot killer" when you go hunting this year!