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Link Posted: 2/17/2020 4:04:31 PM EDT
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Please tell me someone got this on video!  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJWGZdt5L0
Levine looked and sounded like a dumbass.
That black lady was pissed at Edwards for not agreeing to Morrissey the child rapists motion.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 4:17:47 PM EDT
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Us poor dumb schlubs are gonna have to deal with all those 30-100round mags we bought like idiots since November, falling apart, jamming, stuff like that.  Meanwhile Dalles gonna be enjoying life running smooth, consistent 10-round strings through his bullet-buttoned ARs and just really living his best life.
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I see a lot of folks came out. I think a lot of folks know I've been considered a sort of "troll" these past few months. I apologize if I caused any sort of contempt or slowed progress down. However, that was not my intention and I think a lot of folks don't realize that I've been involved a lot during this movement especially with talking to and emailing my local area city council in passing a resolution. So I think I played a small role in this overall great movement. I haven't donated a whole lot to the VCDL post election but prior to the elections, I've donated a lot to the VCDL PAC side. With that said, I'm shifting my focus for each payday to donate something towards VCDL so they can bank some funds for next year's big push.

I bought a lot of 10 rounds magazines and some mag well locks for my rifle. I plan to keep the mags since they seem to be better constructed than the normal cap magazines.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92630/523FA6C8-273D-48C0-8DEB-42690102558B_jpe-1280138.JPG
Oh yeah, 10 round magazines are known for their way higher quality construction.  Guess you spent a lot of money on getting ready to kneel before the crown and gotta justify it somehow.
Us poor dumb schlubs are gonna have to deal with all those 30-100round mags we bought like idiots since November, falling apart, jamming, stuff like that.  Meanwhile Dalles gonna be enjoying life running smooth, consistent 10-round strings through his bullet-buttoned ARs and just really living his best life.
Hey, they’re perfect for all those 10 round groupings we see in the MOA all day threads.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 5:07:28 PM EDT
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Us poor dumb schlubs are gonna have to deal with all those 30-100round mags we bought like idiots since November, falling apart, jamming, stuff like that.  Meanwhile Dalles gonna be enjoying life running smooth, consistent 10-round strings through his bullet-buttoned ARs and just really living his best life.
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Yeah yeah. I know it was quite funny but that shit was serious panic buying last month. I don’t have a bullet button but I think I learned way more about ny safe rifles than I should. I got 10 rounds for nearly all my pistol.

But keep in mind I’m never said I threw away anything I owned prior. If you know what I mean here.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 5:54:12 PM EDT
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Yeah yeah. I know it was quite funny but that shit was serious panic buying last month. I don’t have a bullet button but I think I learned way more about ny safe rifles than I should. I got 10 rounds for nearly all my pistol.

But keep in mind I’m never said I threw away anything I owned prior. If you know what I mean here.
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Us poor dumb schlubs are gonna have to deal with all those 30-100round mags we bought like idiots since November, falling apart, jamming, stuff like that.  Meanwhile Dalles gonna be enjoying life running smooth, consistent 10-round strings through his bullet-buttoned ARs and just really living his best life.
Yeah yeah. I know it was quite funny but that shit was serious panic buying last month. I don’t have a bullet button but I think I learned way more about ny safe rifles than I should. I got 10 rounds for nearly all my pistol.

But keep in mind I’m never said I threw away anything I owned prior. If you know what I mean here.
Panic buying doesn’t mean panicking to buy shit you’ll be allowed to own.

And as to what you mean:

Better to appear to be a kneeling subject than a patriot standing up for your rights risking blood and property?
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 6:21:52 PM EDT
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Aint no shit there.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 7:51:46 PM EDT
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Thank you, Sir!  Gotta love her face!

Bob S.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 8:11:46 PM EDT
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Panic buying doesn’t mean panicking to buy shit you’ll be allowed to own.

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Better to appear to be a kneeling subject than a patriot standing up for your rights risking blood and property?
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I'm not quite sure how to answer your question or if you are even asking me a question. Either way, I think next year I will donate more to VCDL to gear up for the next big fight. We all still have one more year of this and I hope next year all of us here return. Next time, I promise I won't be as vocal about buying 10 rounders or anything.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 8:45:47 PM EDT
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I'm not quite sure how to answer your question or if you are even asking me a question. Either way, I think next year I will donate more to VCDL to gear up for the next big fight. We all still have one more year of this and I hope next year all of us here return. Next time, I promise I won't be as vocal about buying 10 rounders or anything.
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So you’ll just quietly buy your 10 rounders while you lick boots?
There’s no way you’re from VA, and if you are, you’re a damn embarrassment to the entire state.

Stand up to piss for Christ’s sake.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 8:48:39 PM EDT
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I'm not quite sure how to answer your question or if you are even asking me a question. Either way, I think next year I will donate more to VCDL to gear up for the next big fight. We all still have one more year of this and I hope next year all of us here return. Next time, I promise I won't be as vocal about buying 10 rounders or anything.
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Panic buying doesn’t mean panicking to buy shit you’ll be allowed to own.

And as to what you mean:

Better to appear to be a kneeling subject than a patriot standing up for your rights risking blood and property?
I'm not quite sure how to answer your question or if you are even asking me a question. Either way, I think next year I will donate more to VCDL to gear up for the next big fight. We all still have one more year of this and I hope next year all of us here return. Next time, I promise I won't be as vocal about buying 10 rounders or anything.
I believe @21BoomCBTENGR is pointing out that while you gave money to the VCDL and hoped to win, since November you’ve been loudly proclaiming that you were preparing to be legal before anything was put in writing. I appreciate that you donated and I can appreciate your apprehension for what could still happen, but there are dozens if not hundreds on this board only who refused to change or do anything different because that was the line in the sand. I had to stop talking to my father for a week or two because he thought I was throwing everything away by not planning a way to get my things out of VA and in storage somewhere else. I fully expected to possibly have to explain to my son from a jail house phone why I was there.

And this is harsh, it has nothing personal to do with you, but please shut up about only one more year. That is why we are at where we are at. This is a small victory. It’s not time to throw a kegger and party all night. It’s time to share a six pack with 5 others, take a knee, and continue preparing for the forever war that this is. It is not going to stop, regardless of who is in office. We will have less issues with a conservative government, but that doesn’t mean that they will not make poor decisions when it comes to any of our rights.

So please, if you want to support VCDL and the continual fight for the 2nd Amendment, please do! I don’t think anyone would want you not to. But please understand that talking in dark rooms, giving money to the cause, but hedging your bets to coincide with the enemy is not a boon: it makes you look like a fair weather patriot.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 9:42:24 PM EDT
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I believe @21BoomCBTENGR is pointing out that while you gave money to the VCDL and hoped to win, since November you’ve been loudly proclaiming that you were preparing to be legal before anything was put in writing. I appreciate that you donated and I can appreciate your apprehension for what could still happen, but there are dozens if not hundreds on this board only who refused to change or do anything different because that was the line in the sand. I had to stop talking to my father for a week or two because he thought I was throwing everything away by not planning a way to get my things out of VA and in storage somewhere else. I fully expected to possibly have to explain to my son from a jail house phone why I was there.

And this is harsh, it has nothing personal to do with you, but please shut up about only one more year. That is why we are at where we are at. This is a small victory. It’s not time to throw a kegger and party all night. It’s time to share a six pack with 5 others, take a knee, and continue preparing for the forever war that this is. It is not going to stop, regardless of who is in office. We will have less issues with a conservative government, but that doesn’t mean that they will not make poor decisions when it comes to any of our rights.

So please, if you want to support VCDL and the continual fight for the 2nd Amendment, please do! I don’t think anyone would want you not to. But please understand that talking in dark rooms, giving money to the cause, but hedging your bets to coincide with the enemy is not a boon: it makes you look like a fair weather patriot.
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Well said.  There’s not much respect for those who grease their asshole, just in case...  
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 9:48:39 PM EDT
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Well said.  There’s not much respect for those who grease their asshole, just in case...  
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I believe @21BoomCBTENGR is pointing out that while you gave money to the VCDL and hoped to win, since November you’ve been loudly proclaiming that you were preparing to be legal before anything was put in writing. I appreciate that you donated and I can appreciate your apprehension for what could still happen, but there are dozens if not hundreds on this board only who refused to change or do anything different because that was the line in the sand. I had to stop talking to my father for a week or two because he thought I was throwing everything away by not planning a way to get my things out of VA and in storage somewhere else. I fully expected to possibly have to explain to my son from a jail house phone why I was there.

And this is harsh, it has nothing personal to do with you, but please shut up about only one more year. That is why we are at where we are at. This is a small victory. It’s not time to throw a kegger and party all night. It’s time to share a six pack with 5 others, take a knee, and continue preparing for the forever war that this is. It is not going to stop, regardless of who is in office. We will have less issues with a conservative government, but that doesn’t mean that they will not make poor decisions when it comes to any of our rights.

So please, if you want to support VCDL and the continual fight for the 2nd Amendment, please do! I don’t think anyone would want you not to. But please understand that talking in dark rooms, giving money to the cause, but hedging your bets to coincide with the enemy is not a boon: it makes you look like a fair weather patriot.
Well said.  There’s not much respect for those who grease their asshole, just in case...  
@GuyKeefer

Exactly.  We don’t need voices saying “ah well, fuck it boys” we need people standing up and shouting about how this is wrong in every aspect.  The limp-wristed hand-wringing acceptance of our rights being abrogated is a dagger in the heart of liberty as much as the actions of the socialist shitbirds in Richmond.
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 10:03:34 PM EDT
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I believe @21BoomCBTENGR is pointing out that while you gave money to the VCDL and hoped to win, since November you’ve been loudly proclaiming that you were preparing to be legal before anything was put in writing. I appreciate that you donated and I can appreciate your apprehension for what could still happen, but there are dozens if not hundreds on this board only who refused to change or do anything different because that was the line in the sand. I had to stop talking to my father for a week or two because he thought I was throwing everything away by not planning a way to get my things out of VA and in storage somewhere else. I fully expected to possibly have to explain to my son from a jail house phone why I was there.

And this is harsh, it has nothing personal to do with you, but please shut up about only one more year. That is why we are at where we are at. This is a small victory. It’s not time to throw a kegger and party all night. It’s time to share a six pack with 5 others, take a knee, and continue preparing for the forever war that this is. It is not going to stop, regardless of who is in office. We will have less issues with a conservative government, but that doesn’t mean that they will not make poor decisions when it comes to any of our rights.

So please, if you want to support VCDL and the continual fight for the 2nd Amendment, please do! I don’t think anyone would want you not to. But please understand that talking in dark rooms, giving money to the cause, but hedging your bets to coincide with the enemy is not a boon: it makes you look like a fair weather patriot.
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I hear you and I am prepared to do something not this election but the next one in 2021 when all the seats are back up. I am planning next time to get more active in people coming out to vote. In my district our house delegate lost by less than 50 votes and the elected house dem promised to be “moderate” and even said she wouldn’t vote on bills to take guns away. She did vote for the AWB anyway. So I think there’s a good chance even if I get a couple of like minded people to come out to vote.

However I think a lot of folks misunderstood my intention. Preparing for a ban is not complying in my mind. When did I ever say to anyone here to throw out what they have? When did I ever say to destroy your own collection? Never once have I mentioned that or even said I did that. Yes I did mention about potential storage space or offloading to a family member out of state but that’s only for your most precious items to keep it safe. Preparing for a ban and appearing as if you’re complying goes a lot better than showing everyone you’re not especially in an age where they have red flag laws.
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Levine has a very punchable face.  Just saying...
Link Posted: 2/17/2020 10:57:29 PM EDT
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I hear you and I am prepared to do something not this election but the next one in 2021 when all the seats are back up. I am planning next time to get more active in people coming out to vote. In my district our house delegate lost by less than 50 votes and the elected house dem promised to be “moderate” and even said she wouldn’t vote on bills to take guns away. She did vote for the AWB anyway. So I think there’s a good chance even if I get a couple of like minded people to come out to vote.

However I think a lot of folks misunderstood my intention. Preparing for a ban is not complying in my mind. When did I ever say to anyone here to throw out what they have? When did I ever say to destroy your own collection? Never once have I mentioned that or even said I did that. Yes I did mention about potential storage space or offloading to a family member out of state but that’s only for your most precious items to keep it safe. Preparing for a ban and appearing as if you’re complying goes a lot better than showing everyone you’re not especially in an age where they have red flag laws.
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Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
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Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
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I'm not from Virginia, but I literally cried (with relief) when I heard this got set aside.

I'm so proud of y'all and how you've fought for all of us.

Mostly I just throw (a little) money at the cause. We have a democrat in the governor's office here.  I would have once said that no way would gun control pass in Kentucky, but I thought it wouldn't in Virginia, either.

We can all take a lesson from you.

Thank you all for what you have done.  I wish we in Kentucky were even half as organized and strong as you are.
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Learn from our years of not doing enough, and hopefully this is a catalyst for y’all to push hard without having been backed into a corner first.
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Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
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I hear you and I am prepared to do something not this election but the next one in 2021 when all the seats are back up. I am planning next time to get more active in people coming out to vote. In my district our house delegate lost by less than 50 votes and the elected house dem promised to be “moderate” and even said she wouldn’t vote on bills to take guns away. She did vote for the AWB anyway. So I think there’s a good chance even if I get a couple of like minded people to come out to vote.

However I think a lot of folks misunderstood my intention. Preparing for a ban is not complying in my mind. When did I ever say to anyone here to throw out what they have? When did I ever say to destroy your own collection? Never once have I mentioned that or even said I did that. Yes I did mention about potential storage space or offloading to a family member out of state but that’s only for your most precious items to keep it safe. Preparing for a ban and appearing as if you’re complying goes a lot better than showing everyone you’re not especially in an age where they have red flag laws.
Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
He is, unfortunately for him, Seligmans Dog.
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Everything that was said above was right on the money, but it wasn't just Dalle0001's "I'm modding all my weapons and buying 10 rounders to be in compliance" it was his utter arrogance and constant proclaiming, multiple times, that everything that the rest of us were doing was all for naught, that we couldn't convince anyone, that the politicians were already bought and paid for, that HB961 was "going to pass" and that "Republicans were going to vote for it too". It was the constant whining and "you can't win" mantra that infuriated me.

There really isn't any purpose for such defeatism.

Seligman's dogs is one explanation. Another is "concern trolling."
Link Posted: 2/18/2020 12:50:40 PM EDT
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Anyone know this guy?  He was at every BOS/judiciary meeting I attended and even some I just watched on livestream.  I thought I was active during all this, but this guy put me to shame.  Is he a member of a pro-gun organization or just one of us?  Anyway, mystery beard dude, you have my thanks!

Link Posted: 2/18/2020 12:53:35 PM EDT
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Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
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I hear you and I am prepared to do something not this election but the next one in 2021 when all the seats are back up. I am planning next time to get more active in people coming out to vote. In my district our house delegate lost by less than 50 votes and the elected house dem promised to be “moderate” and even said she wouldn’t vote on bills to take guns away. She did vote for the AWB anyway. So I think there’s a good chance even if I get a couple of like minded people to come out to vote.

However I think a lot of folks misunderstood my intention. Preparing for a ban is not complying in my mind. When did I ever say to anyone here to throw out what they have? When did I ever say to destroy your own collection? Never once have I mentioned that or even said I did that. Yes I did mention about potential storage space or offloading to a family member out of state but that’s only for your most precious items to keep it safe. Preparing for a ban and appearing as if you’re complying goes a lot better than showing everyone you’re not especially in an age where they have red flag laws.
Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
Wow.

Perfectly stated.
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do we have any idea who is on the 'Safety Committee ' or whatever it was called that the bill was going to be studied by?
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Virginia Crime Commission

There are some extremely friendly names on that list, as well as a few not-so-friendly.
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Anyone know this guy?  He was at every BOS/judiciary meeting I attended and even some I just watched on livestream.  I thought I was active during all this, but this guy put me to shame.  Is he a member of a pro-gun organization or just one of us?  Anyway, mystery beard dude, you have my thanks!

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Looks like the guy I met at the Stafford BOS meeting. I think he went to almost every county BOS meeting. Just a true Va Patriot .
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In case you weren't paying attention to how vindictive the Democrats are down in Richmond.
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Par for the course for the "Karen" crowd. They throw a tantrum when they don't get their way.
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Probably plum's committee.

The house is a radical shit stain, and frankly, the infighting will do us good .

Good. Let them be at odds. The senate is the higher chamber, and can say fuck you right back. Plum is toxic and was in committee the other day saying the house passes better legislation than the senate.

The more they spite each other the less passes. I can totally see the senior senate telling the house to fuck off.
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Everything that was said above was right on the money, but it wasn't just Dalle0001's "I'm modding all my weapons and buying 10 rounders to be in compliance" it was his utter arrogance and constant proclaiming, multiple times, that everything that the rest of us were doing was all for naught, that we couldn't convince anyone, that the politicians were already bought and paid for, that HB961 was "going to pass" and that "Republicans were going to vote for it too". It was the constant whining and "you can't win" mantra that infuriated me.

There really isn't any purpose for such defeatism.

Seligman's dogs is one explanation. Another is "concern trolling."
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I think all that was battered spouse syndrome coupled with looking at what has happened elsewhere in the past.  However, VIRGINIA IS DIFFERENT.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 9:53:39 AM EDT
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I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere (I haven't seen it), but still - this belongs here.  Crossposted in the Big VA Thread in GD.

Getting national/ main stream attention now.  Good piece.  Good video.

Ingraham: Bloomie (doesn''t) get your guns


Laura Ingraham: Virginia's Second Amendment advocates score a win over Democrats Northam, Bloomberg

"Gun-rights activists scored a Second Amendment victory in Virginia this week over the state's Democrat governor and legislature -- and gun-control financier and Democrat presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg, Laura Ingraham reported Tuesday.

"Just a few months ago, anti-gun Democrats in Virginia thought they could easily ram through a new ban on so-called assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," Ingraham said Tuesday night on "The Ingraham Angle," "and Gov. Ralph Northam was supporting this bill, of course, with a phony argument that rolling back the gun rights of law-abiding Virginians would make all Virginians safer."

"But Northam wasn't ready for the pushback, was he?" Ingraham said. "The opposition made sure that their voices were gonna be heard -- and boy, were they heard.""
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 10:30:39 PM EDT
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Why are you waiting for another election cycle? Why not do something now? Regardless of what you have planned for next year, that’s next year. I’m assuming by your last sentence you’re planning to run for her position? If so, regardless of what you do, I will congratulate you on being part of the American political process and doing something most Americans won’t. But after seeing the reactions to your actions and words here, this should be a wake up call. We could be those people you need for those 50 votes and you quite obviously have touched a nerve with many here. I’m sure it’s more than those that have said anything.

As to your second paragraph, I don’t think people misunderstood your intentions. I think you convinced yourself that you were righteous in what you were doing while everyone else was tearing you down because they didn’t understand the only correct decision you saw. You were the only one posting here (at least that I saw) who decided the best thing to do was research how to comply before the ink was even dry on the first revision of the bill. This whole movement since November has been ABOUT noncompliance. WE WILL NOT COMPLY with laws that violate our rights and will fight with every resource we have to protect everyone’s rights regardless of what side they’re on or who they are because that is what it is to be American. If I heard that Bloomberg, Hillary, and Northam were being harassed by some group because they were walking around with rifles or wanted to legally own a weapon in New York or California, I would fight for them as well because that is their right just as much as it’s mine. Would that ever happen? No, but I think it explains how I feel about all of my rights and yours.

Preparing for a ban and looking to comply is the same as a colonist screaming at the tavern “Fuck the lobster tails!” then going home, cleaning the house, and opening the door to their home and smiling happily as British regulars are barracked in their own bed. You complying shows that you are willing to sacrifice pieces of your rights to not have trouble in your life. I don’t blame you: I think any politician who forces their constituents to choose the easy wrong over the hard right with an iron rod deserves to be drummed out of whatever office they are in. I don’t want trouble in my life, but I also want my son to have the rights I was born with, not less. You did not openly proclaim for all to turn in their weapons and comply with what MAY come, but you were the scared person hoping to ignite a panicked stampede to validate your thoughts.

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of your ideas on the subject. I don’t think I’ve ever felt righteous enough to say this anywhere on this forum, but you are wrong, sir. Totally, irrevocably, truthfully wrong. I do want you to fight with us and I will always, up to and beyond paying a price for it, fight for you as a fellow Virginian and American, but you need to seriously take a look at your actions and understand why you are wrong. Stop apologizing and trying to explain yourself: either understand what numerous people have pointed out and join us or keep your placating to yourself and leave us to do the sacrificing.
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Okay fair enough. Next time I won't be so much of a deafist with things. And no, I don't plan to run for office but I do plan to aid in whatever way for my area to get voters to come out. I think a good time is a couple of months before elections.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 10:40:47 PM EDT
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Per Senator Stanley:

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The Howell thing is a parody account. Stop spreading it. I mean, I don't doubt she believes it, but it's not her.
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The Howell thing is a parody account. Stop spreading it. I mean, I don't doubt she believes it, but it's not her.
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The Howell thing is a parody account. Stop spreading it. I mean, I don't doubt she believes it, but it's not her.
Doesn’t read like a parody account:
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Where’d you get that impression?
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From where it says "satire" in the account description.

Plus the over-the-top nature of the tweets.

C'mon man.
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From where it says "satire" in the account description.

Plus the over-the-top nature of the tweets.

C'mon man.
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From where it says "satire" in the account description.

Plus the over-the-top nature of the tweets.

C'mon man.
And where would her actual twitter account be?  Possibly the “satire” was an error instead of Senator, and her tweets do not seem over the top, hell, have you seen some politicians twitter accounts?

I’ll wait for actual evidence.
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And where would her actual twitter account be?  Possibly the “satire” was an error instead of Senator, and her tweets do not seem over the top, hell, have you seen some politicians twitter accounts?

I’ll wait for actual evidence.
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From where it says "satire" in the account description.

Plus the over-the-top nature of the tweets.

C'mon man.
And where would her actual twitter account be?  Possibly the “satire” was an error instead of Senator, and her tweets do not seem over the top, hell, have you seen some politicians twitter accounts?

I’ll wait for actual evidence.
So satire is a spelling error? 1984 Restonian of the year? I only represent people who voted for me? Talking about maintaining hegemony? Donations equal the price of a new Lexus? Helping cops arrst people before they commit crimes?

If you read that page for 30 seconds without realizing it's a parody you need to seriously step back and reassess calibration on your reality intake filter.
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So satire is a spelling error? 1984 Restonian of the year? I only represent people who voted for me? Talking about maintaining hegemony? Donations equal the price of a new Lexus? Helping cops arrst people before they commit crimes?

If you read that page for 30 seconds without realizing it's a parody you need to seriously step back and reassess calibration on your reality intake filter.
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From where it says "satire" in the account description.

Plus the over-the-top nature of the tweets.

C'mon man.
And where would her actual twitter account be?  Possibly the “satire” was an error instead of Senator, and her tweets do not seem over the top, hell, have you seen some politicians twitter accounts?

I’ll wait for actual evidence.
So satire is a spelling error? 1984 Restonian of the year? I only represent people who voted for me? Talking about maintaining hegemony? Donations equal the price of a new Lexus? Helping cops arrst people before they commit crimes?

If you read that page for 30 seconds without realizing it's a parody you need to seriously step back and reassess calibration on your reality intake filter.
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Perhaps, but reading those, none of them are “over the top” all of them are rather tame for what many democrats would say z
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 12:36:18 PM EDT
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Bill Stanley's account is NOT a parody.

They really did deny the pay raise on account of sheriffs refusing to enforce HB961 if it passed.
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