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Posted: 2/8/2006 8:42:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/22/2006 2:12:34 PM EDT by Hallmark_Ent]
Post here if you would be interested in ALS Smokes being available @ Hite Hollow April's Fool Shoot.

Basically you post what you would be interested in here, then I'll bring them to HH to complete the transaction.



Colors we have available so far:
ALS G972,Continuous Discharge, WS
White
Green
Red
Orange
Any above color: Click Here For Pricing


CS also available: Click Here For Pricing

So, let us know if your interested.

Thanks.
Steve
Hallmark Small Arms
John
Dane MFG

Mods, let me know if I can post prices, since interest will most likely be gauged by price.

7: 2-WS, 2-RS, 2-GS
El_Abogado: ?
BladeRunner: 3-WS
O5-Lowrider: ?
RockHard13F: 4-WS, 2-CS
Fiend: 1-GS, 1-RS
ANGST: 1-RS



Link Posted: 2/8/2006 1:54:22 PM EDT
I'll take at least one WS... too bad they don't have one 1/2 the size for 1/2 the cost. Expensive little buggers.

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 2:28:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 2:30:33 PM EDT by El_Abogado]
I'm in, with some others. . . . Hope this doesn't get pulled.

What is the physical size? How do they compare, in terms of output and physical size, with mil issue?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 3:37:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:12:43 PM EDT
I think I would be in for 3 of the ALS G972,Continuous Discharge, WS.

After looking at the prices, I have a whole new appreciation for the large numbers (.gov costs) of these I have "popped smoke" in the last 29 years or so.

Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:46:47 PM EDT
Since this is a official group buy now...I think I'd like to own a couple of these...white would be fine...but green would be cool too.
How many do we need to order to make them a "little more affordable"?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 7:17:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 05LowRider:
Since this is a official group buy now...I think I'd like to own a couple of these...white would be fine...but green would be cool too.
How many do we need to order to make them a "little more affordable"?



I will take a few white ones, I think 4 would be good, and possibly 2 continuous discharge CS grenades.

-Ben
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 12:36:38 AM EDT
Well now, I like what is posted at the bottom of your page.

37 MM Barrel Mounted Launcher
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:28:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By El_Abogado:
I'm in, with some others. . . . Hope this doesn't get pulled.

What is the physical size? How do they compare, in terms of output and physical size, with mil issue?



Follow Link for product details: LINK
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 2:36:19 PM EDT
Add another 1 White, 1Red and 1 Green to my order. They are for a friend from work who will be at the shoot.

What does CS stand for?
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 3:10:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 3:25:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
Add another 1 White, 1Red and 1 Green to my order. They are for a friend from work who will be at the shoot.

What does CS stand for?



0-chlorobenzalmalononitrile
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:02:56 PM EDT
Can someone try that out for me at the shoot so I can see what it does for myself?
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 12:30:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
Can someone try that out for me at the shoot so I can see what it does for myself?



Sounds like it would bring a rather tearfull end to a fun day....
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 8:29:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2006 8:30:11 AM EDT by Hallmark_Ent]

Originally Posted By 05LowRider:
How many do we need to order to make them a "little more affordable"?



About $6000 worth would move you into the little more affordable range.

These prices quoted are already into the tiny bit more affordable range, anything lower and I have to give up Boars Head Brand ham in favor of Food Lion baloney.

Steve.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:40:12 AM EDT
I'll take a green and red one.

When do you have to have a final talley?
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 3:22:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
Can someone try that out for me at the shoot so I can see what it does for myself?



Having been CS'd at least two dozen times between the Marine Corps and the PD, let me explain...

It sucks!

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 4:20:15 PM EDT
Nothing clears the sinuses better!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 4:36:56 PM EDT
lol, I'm just sitting here trying to picture where/how the CS smokes will be used.

Hey, I think I hear someone in the house... pop a CS down the hall.

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:13:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
lol, I'm just sitting here trying to picture where/how the CS smokes will be used.

Hey, I think I hear someone in the house... pop a CS down the hall.




I'm an RA on a college campus...

-Ben
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 5:11:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BradleyW:
Nothing clears the sinuses better!


Isn't that the truth! Went into the chamber w/ a pretty nasty headcold - came out, aired out, never
had another sniffle for the rest of Basic!
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 12:24:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 12:25:35 PM EDT by Hallmark_Ent]
For those of you that expressed an interest but did not commit to a number now is the time!

For those of you that did, check the list in the openning post to make sure I have it right.


Steve.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 1:00:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 1:01:15 PM EDT by ANGST]

Originally Posted By fiend:
I'll take a green and red one.

When do you have to have a final talley?



Saving them for x-mas ?


I am in for at least one , red
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 3:06:26 PM EDT
Add another RED and one more Green to my total. Thanks.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 3:57:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/14/2006 4:02:14 PM EDT by Oliver]
Here is a list of what will be available

ALS3701 / ALS4001 * Mono-Ball (1 ball) (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3704 /ALS4004 * Pen-Prevent (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3705 / ALS4005 * Interlocking Rubber Batons (3 batons) (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3732 / ALS4032 * Hornets Nest, .32 cal. (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3745 / ALS4045 * Hornets Nest, .45 cal. (37 / 40 mm)

ALS G972 Continuous Discharge, WS

ALS G972R Continuous Discharge, RED

ALS G972G Continuous Discharge, Green

ALS G972O Continuous Discharge, Orange

ALS G272 Continuous Discharge, CS

ALS G273 Triple Action, CS

ALS 6273 OC Expulsion Grenade

ALS M201T Training Flash Bang Fuse

ALS09NR Training Flash Bang Body

ALS 6727 37/40 Multi Smoke, CS

ALS 6227 37/40 OC Blast Dispersion Projectile

ALS 5727 37/40 Long Range, CS

ALS4262 OC 40 MM Barricade Penetrator

ALS4227 CS 40 MM Barricade Penetrator


will also have a few specialty shotgun rounds also


ALS1206 Slug, Tactical Entry $2.75ea

ALS1207 #4 Buck Shot, Tactical Entry $2.75 ea

ALS1210 Door Breaching Cartridge $8 ea


Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:12:42 AM EDT
Can you get any of the hand held signal flares w/ parachutes?
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 4:55:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
For those of you that expressed an interest but did not commit to a number now is the time!

For those of you that did, check the list in the openning post to make sure I have it right.


Steve.



I'm in for two white and a green....

Can I make arrangements to pick up or have someone else pick them up at HH...I won't be there.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:08:11 PM EDT
Where are you located Lowrider?
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:18:05 PM EDT
Haymarket...GOTM4 or LRT should be going and could probably hook me up...I HOPE!
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 5:40:02 PM EDT
Which COLOR smoke has the BEST CONCEALMENT in DAY and which one is best at NIGHT?

Rmpl
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 12:46:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 05LowRider:
Haymarket...GOTM4 or LRT should be going and could probably hook me up...I HOPE!



As long as I am breathing I can do it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:47:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 05LowRider:

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
For those of you that expressed an interest but did not commit to a number now is the time!

For those of you that did, check the list in the openning post to make sure I have it right.


Steve.



I'm in for two white and a green....

Can I make arrangements to pick up or have someone else pick them up at HH...I won't be there.



As far as I know I'm working at VA Arms that day. Things may change but not likely.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 6:44:32 AM EDT
I'm interested in one white, one green, one red. Can you take a credit card, and I'll call you with the number?

Also, what is the model # on the CS that's available?
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:41:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By long-rifle-tactical:

Originally Posted By 05LowRider:
Haymarket...GOTM4 or LRT should be going and could probably hook me up...I HOPE!



As long as I am breathing I can do it.



Cool...keep breathing, b/c I will be at VA Arms with Rob that day.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:52:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
I'm interested in one white, one green, one red. Can you take a credit card, and I'll call you with the number?

Also, what is the model # on the CS that's available?



See John's (Oliver) post on the first page on what is available.

Sorry, no CC's, cash and carry on this one brother.

Oh, is "interested" the same as "I buy these..." just need to know so I bring the correct amount to Hite Hollow.

Thanks, Steve.
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 4:45:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 7:05:46 AM EDT
Can you get any of the hand held signal flares w/ parachutes?
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 7:10:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:
Can you get any of the hand held signal flares w/ parachutes?



Here is a list of what will be available

ALS3701 / ALS4001 * Mono-Ball (1 ball) (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3704 /ALS4004 * Pen-Prevent (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3705 / ALS4005 * Interlocking Rubber Batons (3 batons) (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3732 / ALS4032 * Hornets Nest, .32 cal. (37 / 40 mm)

ALS3745 / ALS4045 * Hornets Nest, .45 cal. (37 / 40 mm)

ALS G972 Continuous Discharge, WS

ALS G972R Continuous Discharge, RED

ALS G972G Continuous Discharge, Green

ALS G972O Continuous Discharge, Orange

ALS G272 Continuous Discharge, CS

ALS G273 Triple Action, CS

ALS 6273 OC Expulsion Grenade

ALS M201T Training Flash Bang Fuse

ALS09NR Training Flash Bang Body

ALS 6727 37/40 Multi Smoke, CS

ALS 6227 37/40 OC Blast Dispersion Projectile

ALS 5727 37/40 Long Range, CS

ALS4262 OC 40 MM Barricade Penetrator

ALS4227 CS 40 MM Barricade Penetrator


will also have a few specialty shotgun rounds also


ALS1206 Slug, Tactical Entry $2.75ea

ALS1207 #4 Buck Shot, Tactical Entry $2.75 ea

ALS1210 Door Breaching Cartridge $8 ea
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:39:27 AM EDT
FYI, Our order from ALS will NOT be fullfilled by April 1.

Sorry Guys, but it's out of our control right now, so we won't have any smokes to deliever at Hite Hollow.

If you have any questions please feel free to call or email me.

Steve
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:41:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
FYI, Our order from ALS will NOT be fullfilled by April 1.

Sorry Guys, but it's out of our control right now, so we won't have any smokes to deliever at Hite Hollow.

If you have any questions please feel free to call or email me.

Steve



When do you want payment?

Also did you get an email from a friend of mine about a couple of pistols? I tried emailing you/im but I got no response
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 4:53:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 4:53:57 AM EDT by Hallmark_Ent]

Originally Posted By fiend:

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
FYI, Our order from ALS will NOT be fullfilled by April 1.

Sorry Guys, but it's out of our control right now, so we won't have any smokes to deliever at Hite Hollow.

If you have any questions please feel free to call or email me.

Steve



When do you want payment? No payment needed, I won't have the smokes by April 1

Also did you get an email from a friend of mine about a couple of pistols? I tried emailing you/im but I got no response Yes, responded to your friend



Link Posted: 3/13/2006 6:00:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2006 6:00:28 AM EDT by 7]

Originally Posted By Hallmark_Ent:
FYI, Our order from ALS will NOT be fullfilled by April 1.

Sorry Guys, but it's out of our control right now, so we won't have any smokes to deliever at Hite Hollow.

If you have any questions please feel free to call or email me.

Steve



Bad form. Ok, everyone now has to read the The Smoke Bomb How to! Edit it worked page 3 of pics! Making more for sure and bigger!!! topic and make smokes.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 6:35:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
Bad form. Ok, everyone now has to read the The Smoke Bomb How to! Edit it worked page 3 of pics! Making more for sure and bigger!!! topic and make smokes.



Yeah I agree, but sometimes shit happens that we dealers can't control, that's why, unlike some other dealers, I don't take money for shizzle I don't have in my hands.

Steve.
Link Posted: 3/13/2006 8:12:43 AM EDT
Yeah, I understand. No biggie. Like I said in another thread... leaves me more $ for other things.

Less than 3 weeks and counting...
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 1:42:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/22/2006 2:09:11 PM EDT by Hallmark_Ent]

Originally Posted By 7:
Yeah, I understand. No biggie. Like I said in another thread... leaves me more $ for other things.

Less than 3 weeks and counting...



I just knew I'd get your money!



Smokes are IN! With special pricing!


Since we had to flip flop on getting these in we lowered the price to make everyone that wanted smokes happy. You won't find a better deal on these.

$30 Each for white and colors.

$25 each, 4 or More in white.

Repost what you want and we will deliver to Hite Hollow on April 1st.

Steve.
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 6:26:36 PM EDT
I still want to know what COLOR offers the best smoke concealment in DAYLIGHT and what works the best at NIGHT. Any experiences you can share to help?

Is there a web site that has graphics and explains what the various items do and how long the discharge is?

Rmpl
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 3:13:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rmplstlskn:
I still want to know what COLOR offers the best smoke concealment in DAYLIGHT and what works the best at NIGHT. Any experiences you can share to help?

Is there a web site that has graphics and explains what the various items do and how long the discharge is?

Rmpl



Start here: Link

As far as which color works best day or night, good question. I will have to disqualify myself to answer that question as I am red/green color blind. I would however suggest you ask the advice of experienced tactical operators in the police forums. I can say that each color including white is VERY opaque when discharged. Translation, I couldn't see shit through the smoke cloud.

Steve
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 3:36:08 PM EDT
I'm in for the same as I had previously. But if you bring more... I might grab a few extra.

Question.
ALS M201T Training Flash Bang Fuse

ALS09NR Training Flash Bang Body

If one puts the fuse in the body, does that make a 'training' flash bang. What is the difference between the 'training' one and a real one? The amount of flash and bang?

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:29:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
I'm in for the same as I had previously. But if you bring more... I might grab a few extra.
e and a real one?



Gotcha covered, I'm sure we will bring a "few" extras.

Steve
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:08:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 7:
I'm in for the same as I had previously. But if you bring more... I might grab a few extra.

Question.
ALS M201T Training Flash Bang Fuse

ALS09NR Training Flash Bang Body

If one puts the fuse in the body, does that make a 'training' flash bang yes. What is the difference between the 'training' one and a real one? The amount of flash and bang? correct

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:12:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rmplstlskn:
I still want to know what COLOR offers the best smoke concealment in DAYLIGHT and what works the best at NIGHT. Any experiences you can share to help? they all give basically the same coverage, the military uses the colors more for designation
Is there a web site that has graphics and explains what the various items do and how long the discharge is?www.ozarkmtns.com/less-lethal/products/white-smoke-grenage1-ALSG972.htmRmpl

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