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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:16:55 AM EDT
Decent show. Though $8 was too much for the number of vendors there. No Georgia Arms. I'd say it was Black Rifle Friendly.

I want to know who those Virginia Defense Force guys were. Are they officially sanctioned by the state?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:33:43 AM EDT
I was thinking about going up to the show, how would you compare it to the show at athe Showplace in Richmond?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:43:06 AM EDT
It seemed smaller. As a show, it wasn't worth $8.

I go to the gun show mainly to support the idea of a gun show. I just wish there were more good dealers like QA, Dark Sun, etc.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:49:28 AM EDT
So was Dark Sun thelr? I have been thinking about picking up a Molsen Nagant just to play with.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 9:10:17 AM EDT
Yep, Dark Sun is there.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 9:51:21 AM EDT
Was it worth it? For me, it was. But I'm sick of driving down to Richmond or up to Chantilly for a show. Comparable to the Showplace? It wasn't quite as good, but like I said, it was worth it for me. I picked up an M44 in decent shape. There were fewer vendors than in Richmond, but I think there were too many for a venue the size of this place. The parking lot was completely full and it seemed like the rows of tables were too close together - I had trouble getting through the aisles in the vicinity of some of the more popular tables. I was definitely pleased, overall. Again, it's a ten minute drive from driveway to parking lot for me, though.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 10:17:13 AM EDT
The turnout was spectacular. I arrived at 0910 and the parking lot was about full. I left about an hour later and there was still a line out the door.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 10:30:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 10:33:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/28/2006 10:34:19 AM EDT by Squib]

Originally Posted By dport:
I want to know who those Virginia Defense Force guys were. Are they officially sanctioned by the state?



They're one rung under the VA National Guard, from what I remember. www.virginiadefenseforce.org Met a guy once that was going to sell me an M1 carbine. Later he decided not to because he needed a rifle for his VDF drills.

Do not confuse them with, as some have, the Virginia Citizen's Defense League.

Where was this show held in Fredericksburg?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 11:06:14 AM EDT
It was at the Expo center in Central Park.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 2:45:25 PM EDT
It was alright not too much there I was interested in. I was looking to get some Georgia-Arms ammo but they were a no show. Hopefully they will be there next time if they have another one. I guess I wil just have to orde my ammo form them the old fashioned way.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 3:42:12 PM EDT
was there any 76239 or 223?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:25:28 PM EDT
I went today, about an hour after the ND they had. Apparently some dealer gave an HK91 or clone to someone, who inserted a loaded mag when the dealer wasn't looking. Put a hole in the ceiling, no one hurt, but both the clown and the dealer were banished.

But, the show was pretty successful for me. Traded $360 and a beat-up Makarov for a low-serial # Springfield M1 Garand
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:41:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:55:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By limaxray:
I went today, about an hour after the ND they had. Apparently some dealer gave an HK91 or clone to someone, who inserted a loaded mag when the dealer wasn't looking. Put a hole in the ceiling, no one hurt, but both the clown and the dealer were banished.



Maybe it wasn't accidental?
Fast way to get a show run out of town... or forced to find a new venue.
Just a thought... I put nothing past anti-gun militants.

Rmpl
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:26:28 PM EDT
When was the ND?
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:31:52 PM EDT
I got there about 1:00, so it happened about noon. I suspect we'll read about it in the paper....
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:42:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:52:38 PM EDT
No idea. Overheard the backstory while I was waiting for the guy to come back so I could buy his Garand. Two other dealers were talking about it, all they said was the dealer's gone, and the T-shirt lady said he was a really nice guy and usually very good about that stuff.


Link Posted: 1/28/2006 9:42:58 PM EDT
We went to the show and we were there when the shot was fired. Maybe around 1 PM. We knew what what that sound was & did not stick around after it happened; we were on the way out anyway. Amazing stupidity.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:20:19 AM EDT
76239 ammo there?
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:59:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:
Decent show. Though $8 was too much for the number of vendors there. No Georgia Arms. I'd say it was Black Rifle Friendly.

I want to know who those Virginia Defense Force guys were. Are they officially sanctioned by the state?



Yes
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:28:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
76239 ammo there?


I'm sure there was. I saw a couple of ammo dealers there, but I was not looking for ammo at the time.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:54:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:02:09 AM EDT
I'm headed out there in a couple of minutes. I'm going with some other folks one of whom commented that due to the ND and ceiling shot, at least we'll know if its raining outside!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:40:58 AM EDT
Anyone remember prices of ammo? Q3131 or Q3131a, 7.62x39 etc...

Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:53:49 AM EDT
Here is the take on the ND from Sigforum:

http://sigforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/795103574

Its also been posted to GlockTalk.com in the VA hometown section.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 12:09:40 PM EDT
I didn't see any holes in the ceiling
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 2:58:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/29/2006 5:19:26 PM EDT by chapperjoe]
my pickup:
2000 rounds 76239 hp wolf
860 rounds M193 (200 box, 560 bandoleers)
AK47 Lula
AR15 First Samco mag clamp
MecGar 1911 mag
Kershaw Blur GREAT knife
1 bottle of pepsi.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:50:23 PM EDT
Made it up there (from Hanover).... took for ever to find the F*&%ing place!!! Pickeed up a Nagant from Dark Sun to play with, Man those 7.62x54r bullets are BIG!! Saw an upper at Fulton Aromery I wish I would have bought now! Felt tight there not much room between tables. Not as good as the Showplace, but better than the fairgrounds.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 5:57:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WAMJR:
Made it up there (from Hanover).... took for ever to find the F*&%ing place!!! Pickeed up a Nagant from Dark Sun to play with, Man those 7.62x54r bullets are BIG!! Saw an upper at Fulton Aromery I wish I would have bought now! Felt tight there not much room between tables. Not as good as the Showplace, but better than the fairgrounds.



not bad at all, here are my amatuer reflections:

not enough bulk ammo dealers.
too many dealers there just taking the opportunity to put their stock (accesories, parts, crap) out, mark it up 10% and wait for the uneducated to come by it.
nice enough bathrooms (hey I made like three trips, so it matters!).
parking was tough, but no spot was too far from entrance, so kinda good.
Some rifles were incredibly overpriced, most were MSPRP, but there were a nice amount of black rifles.
GREAT knife dealer!
a few too many airsoft dealers for me.
the folks by the sword dealer were hilarious. straight out of a star wars convention.
When me and my two fellow travelers left, the number of jews there went from three to zero.
nice amount of handguns too, but the XD45acps went QUICK.
I would go again and often, but flyer said next one was in july.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:35:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By limaxray:
... Apparently some dealer gave an HK91 or clone to someone, who inserted a loaded mag when the dealer wasn't looking. ...


After which, apparently, somebody pulled a trigger!!

I remember when local gunshows also prohibited the carrying of ammo into the show. Guess we’ll be seeing those signs again.

The guy with the loaded mag should have left in handcuffs!!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 5:28:37 PM EDT
I couldn't make it Saturday so I got there about 10:15 Sunday. Took 2 hours 15 minutes from VAB. I had $$$ that I won in Atlantic City at the Craps table that was burning a hole in my pocket. I just knew if I didn't go, there'd be something I wanted and I would regret it.

And boy was I right. I almost bought the HV51 short barreled .308. But I found what I've been looking for, for quite some time. A used Colt M6920 LE M4A3 in good shape. They had it marked $1200 but since I had cash I got it OTD for $1150! Considering tax would have been about $55 I got it for just under $1100. I'm very happy. Was surprised that Georgia Arms wasn't there. Didn't see anything else that was particularly exciting. Pondered over a Kimber Custom II for $549 for a bit.
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