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Posted: 12/7/2005 3:47:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 10:56:17 PM EDT by pdynak]
i was thinking about doing a group ammo buy from aimsurplus. i havnt contacted aim yet for any quantity discounts yet as i have no idea how many people are interested. i live in the barrington area and am constantly in the north shore. so i could meet people somewhere or pickup at my house

i am looking to pick up about 5-6k myself and im considering driving down to get it, since shipping is such a big part of buying ammo.

ive got a suburban so i can carry a bit of weight.

if whoever is interested could post what and how much theyd like, ill complile all the info and see what aim would do for us as far as discounts if any.

here is a link to thier ammunition pagewww.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Ammunition.html


RUNNING TOTAL


7.62x51 - 9,000
5.56x45 - 7,000
30-06 - 1,000
7.62x54 - 500
45ACP - 500
40SW - 500

total rounds - 18,500


edit - added running total
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 4:50:14 PM EDT
Damn, if they had 7.62x39 in stock I would be all over this.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 5:05:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dawg180:
Damn, if they had 7.62x39 in stock I would be all over this.



this is all preliminary, who knows, by the time this all goes through they may have some 39 in stock. im hopeing to make the purchase the first or second week of january.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 5:18:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 5:22:32 PM EDT by codycoyote]
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 5:19:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 5:19:18 PM EDT by codycoyote]
All group buys must have Staff permission first.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 5:22:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 5:22:11 PM EDT by codycoyote]
Upon Rereading the Rules, proceed. IM incoming to thread originator.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 7:32:45 PM EDT
Were you the guy with 1640 rounds for sale earlier this evening? In Algonquin?
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 7:47:27 PM EDT
no, thats marksman14. i saw his ammo on the EE. however its too expensive for me. thats why im trying to get this ammo buy going
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 9:11:58 PM EDT
I'm good for a case of SA 7.62x51. Maybe two if you have room.


JR
Lake Co
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 3:54:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2005 3:55:11 AM EDT by handyandy]
I guess it depends on the ammo and the price. If they had something I wanted I'd be good for 2K of 5.56.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:12:33 AM EDT

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pdynak is just looking to see if there are interested parties since he is willing to go and get his own 7000 rounds he figured fill the damn suburban up for everyone!

pdynak it is very nice of you to ask, lets see what we can do.

codycoyote thank you for being vigilant, I know you want us to follow the rules...
You know that we all work together, so lets see what happens?
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:15:10 AM EDT
Is the 5.56 a M855/SS109 or M193 varient?
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:19:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2005 5:19:33 AM EDT by joe1972]

Originally Posted By LoadedDrum:
Is the 5.56 a M855/SS109 or M193 varient?



www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of__223.html

Direct link!
Does this help?
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 5:50:35 AM EDT
Yes thanks.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 6:16:50 AM EDT
I'm interested in 1k of SS109.


efxguy
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 6:21:57 AM EDT
You can count me in for 1k of the M855 for sure, maybe another 1k depending on when this happens and the thickness of my wallet at the time.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 7:19:02 AM EDT
I would probably be interested to the tune of probably 1-2K rounds of various stuff total.

Calibers yet undecided but something along the lines of:
7.62x54R (likely)
.40 S&W (likely)
.45ACP (likely)
.308
.223
8mm
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 8:15:15 AM EDT
If I get my M1A this month, I'm in for two cases of SA .308.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 9:30:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By joe1972:

SYSTEM MESSAGE

Bla... Bla... Bla...




pdynak is just looking to see if there are interested parties since he is willing to go and get his own 7000 rounds he figured fill the damn suburban up for everyone!

pdynak it is very nice of you to ask, lets see what we can do.

codycoyote thank you for being vigilant, I know you want us to follow the rules...
You know that we all work together, so lets see what happens?



oh, you shoudl have seen the system messages before they where edited
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 9:49:45 AM EDT
for those of you unsure, just post what you are interested in. assume that you will pay their full retail.

we are saving the shipping cost on some heavy ammo. the cost to ship a 980 round can of 308 from aim to barrington is $17.00. i was thinking of buying about 5-6k so thats almost the cost of driving down there, minus my time. so if the order is large enough the savings would be well worth the drive.

im not looking to make any money, just want to break even with gas costs and get a good deal on some ammo.

my gas cost are figured to be $105.30 to drive there and back, haha thats just a little over a full tank. the cost to ship 6k of 308 is $102.00 so its at a lost right now. this has some potential.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 12:26:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pdynak:
for those of you unsure, just post what you are interested in. assume that you will pay their full retail.

we are saving the shipping cost on some heavy ammo. the cost to ship a 980 round can of 308 from aim to barrington is $17.00. i was thinking of buying about 5-6k so thats almost the cost of driving down there, minus my time. so if the order is large enough the savings would be well worth the drive.

im not looking to make any money, just want to break even with gas costs and get a good deal on some ammo.

my gas cost are figured to be $105.30 to drive there and back, haha thats just a little over a full tank. the cost to ship 6k of 308 is $102.00 so its at a lost right now. this has some potential.



Whether you want it or not, I'm going to insist that I kick in at least a little for gas. Even if I just gave you enough for 5 or 6 gallons, it'll help you out and still be less than I'd pay for shipping.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 12:45:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HRoark:

Whether you want it or not, I'm going to insist that I kick in at least a little for gas. Even if I just gave you enough for 5 or 6 gallons, it'll help you out and still be less than I'd pay for shipping.



much appreciated.

like i said before, pricing hasnt been worked out with AIM. it all depends on what kind of discount if any. once that becomes established i was figuring if enough people join we could all respectivly split the gas cost we would still be ahead

hopefully more people become interested. im planning on calling AIM on monday and see what they can offer. those that show some interest please post what and how much you would like. this is not anything official, i just want some numbers to help negotiate with AIM
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 8:10:13 PM EDT
5 cans of .30-06
2k of the adcom M855.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 1:22:05 AM EDT
im going to call AIM around 1pm today. it doesnt look so good with the numbers we have now to justify driving down there, thats if we get no discount or a small one. gas will run about $125-175 depending on gas cost when i go(im being very generous here, as i have no idea what 1000lbs of ammo will do to my gas mileage on the highway. we are saving about $400ish on shipping, so a net savings of about $225

now if we add in the factor of everyones time and gas to hookup and distribute the ammo, $225 seems not quite worth the time. i myself would rather sit at home and wait for the ups truck. escpecially those interested in 1k-2k, which is everyone except me. oh...and nate

however, if we get a decent discount of lets say 10%, im sure numbers would change, but anyways, i will post after i talk to them.

we can save a lot if we get a nice discount, so lets just hope for the best.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 5:09:28 AM EDT
Well, if we don't have a large enough quantity to get them to give us a discount, ask them what it would take. I could increase my order some. Also, we have a little bit of time until you place the order.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 11:19:46 AM EDT
alright, so i called AIM just now. as far as discounts...haha...how about 5bucks per case of 308. i guess this is still a small order for them. same with the 223, they took off about 4bucks. either that or the margins are quite low, which may be the case. but who really knows.

they didnt give me a price on the rest of the stuff, just cause the bulk of order was those two.

he suggested that i email him the complete list and they will work out the pricing for us. ill give that a shot but im definetly not expecting anything spectacular. escpecially sine we are only adding a few more things.

we will have to pay sales tax of 6.5% if we pickup, no matter what. if we pay cash or whatever

its probably a bad time to do this ammo buy, just cause of the holidays. maybe just before spring people will have more ammo funds then and we can make a much larger order then.

so i guess we will call this deal busted for now. sorry fellas, well try getting an order in the spring and see what that brings us.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 11:25:25 AM EDT
Agreed. After the holidays would be good. Then I could be in for more than what I tentatively put myself down for. If we all continue to spread the word then by springtime maybe we'll be up at a higher volume where better discounts might be had?
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 11:29:28 AM EDT
I may be up for the spring thing...$$$ seem a bit tight right now.....thanks for the effort.....
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 12:06:53 PM EDT
pdynak Thank You for the effort it took to try this out!

I see that a lot of people looked at this post, I think that early to mid next year would be a great time to try this again!

Again Thank You, and have a great holiday season!

Joe 1972
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 12:18:08 PM EDT
thanks everyone for their interest. i emailed AIM and they are cranking away at these numbers right now as we speak. bryan at aim seemed really cool.

do the majority of people agree that before spring would be a better time? say march-april? im wiling to wait as i got a bit stocked up anyways.

i will post the exect figures aim sends me when i get them, just so people can guage for the future
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 12:51:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pdynak:
thanks everyone for their interest. i emailed AIM and they are cranking away at these numbers right now as we speak. bryan at aim seemed really cool.

do the majority of people agree that before spring would be a better time? say march-april? im wiling to wait as i got a bit stocked up anyways.

i will post the exect figures aim sends me when i get them, just so people can guage for the future



If we waited until march I would at least double my order.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 6:10:17 PM EDT
Yes, the time change would change my order a little as well.

No matter what, I'm in for 1k of 9mm and 500 of .45.

efxguy
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 7:38:01 PM EDT
I don't know.

In March me and Kramer usualy drive to Michigan with a truckload of aluminum cans to get the deposit money. We've got it all worked out this year.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 7:40:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By racecar:
I don't know.

In March me and Kramer usualy drive to Michigan with a truckload of aluminum cans to get the deposit money. We've got it all worked out this year.



does this mean you may have money for an ammo purchase? im not sure what you meant by that
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 6:27:28 PM EDT
Depending on price
1k-2k of 5.56
500 45ACP
1k 9mm
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 6:44:16 PM EDT

I don't know.

In March me and Kramer usualy drive to Michigan with a truckload of aluminum cans to get the deposit money. We've got it all worked out this year.



does this mean you may have money for an ammo purchase? im not sure what you meant by that


I don't know what is funnier, the esoteric reference to a Sienfeld episode or the confused response by pdynak LOL
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:36:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 45Ron:

I don't know.

In March me and Kramer usualy drive to Michigan with a truckload of aluminum cans to get the deposit money. We've got it all worked out this year.



does this mean you may have money for an ammo purchase? im not sure what you meant by that


I don't know what is funnier, the esoteric reference to a Sienfeld episode or the confused response by pdynak LOL



now that was funny.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:15:02 PM EDT
Is that Lake city stuff M855PD?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:22:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:
Is that Lake city stuff M855PD?



it doesnt specify m855pd, but since its loose packed im sure it is.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:06:58 PM EDT
ok i received pricing from AIM today, seems like they are doing a decent deal.


adcom 223 - list $165.00 per 1k, we can get it at $160.00 save $5.00 per 1k
SA 308 - list $147.00 per 980, we can get it for $140.00 save $7.00 per case
7.62x54 czech - list $59.95 per 800, we can get it for $55.00 save $4.95 per case
30.06 - list $34.95 per 192, we can get it for $31.95 save $3.00 per case
45acp fiocchi - list $8.95 per 50, we can get it for $8.50 save $0.45 per box
40sw fiocchi - list $10.95 per 50, we can get it for $9.90 save $1.05 per box

the slight discount isnt what we hoped for, but it is much appreciated. the nice thing i found out about ordering in such high quantites is that shipping goes way down per lb. about half of what it would be to order a few cases at once. with the current order the savings on shipping are not worth it to pick up.
so if people are still interested to save some money on ammo let me know.

shipping prices to zip 60010
adcom 223 - $5.76 per 1k round case
SA 308 - $11.88 per 980 round can
762x54 - $10.80 per 800 round can
30.06 - $3.06 per 192 round can
45acp fiocchi - $0.45 per 50 round box
40sw fiocchi - $0.36 per 50 round box

please do not quote me on these prices, as they are for reference only
this is only to guage weather we can get a larger order next year march-april

if you are interested please IM me what you are thinking about ordering. well get a quanity built up for march and take things from there.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:50:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By racecar:
I don't know.

In March me and Kramer usualy drive to Michigan with a truckload of aluminum cans to get the deposit money. We've got it all worked out this year.



this episode is on right now on fox, almost over.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 6:00:44 AM EDT by racecar]
9999 bottles and cans.
9999 bottles and cans.
At 10 cents a bottle and 10 cents a can,
we’re pulling in $500 a man.



When you were talking about goint AIM this just kept popping ito my head.

Ron, Thanks for save.


JR

Link Posted: 12/19/2005 9:10:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By racecar:
9999 bottles and cans.
9999 bottles and cans.
At 10 cents a bottle and 10 cents a can,
we’re pulling in $500 a man.



When you were talking aboyt goint AIM this just kept popping ito my head.

Ron, Thanks for save.


JR




and now if i do goto AIM ill be singing this song as well.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 5:08:14 AM EDT
Question, why are you going to pay tax on the ammo?
Is it because you are picking it up at there location?
Can’t you have it billed to you here and tell them that you will have a freight service do the pick -up? (You can be the freight service, right?)

Just wondering... man I need more coffee!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 6:21:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By joe1972:
Question, why are you going to pay tax on the ammo?
Is it because you are picking it up at there location?
Can’t you have it billed to you here and tell them that you will have a freight service do the pick -up? (You can be the freight service, right?)

Just wondering... man I need more coffee!



thats a good question. when i was talking to them on the phone i was told if i pick it up there will be sales tax. if this order goes through ill phone it in and see if your idea works, i dont see why it wouldnt, it makes sense.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 3:51:51 PM EDT
IM UNDER HEAVY FIRE HERE!

HES PULLING OUT THE WOODS!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 4:32:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pdynak:
IM UNDER HEAVY FIRE HERE!

HES PULLING OUT THE WOODS!


Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:01:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By silascobb:

Originally Posted By pdynak:
IM UNDER HEAVY FIRE HERE!

HES PULLING OUT THE WOODS!





it was from the seinfeld episode tonight, and the same episode racecar made a refrence to earlier.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:03:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pdynak:
it was from the seinfeld episode tonight, and the same episode racecar made a refrence to earlier.



Ah ha! Another obscure Seinfeld reference. Of course!
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 6:14:32 AM EDT
What forum is this anyway?

I'm back on message.



Buy as much ammo as you can afford.


JR
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:14:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/22/2005 3:59:59 PM EDT by pdynak]
ok well not many people are interested in this ammo buy right now.

if you are interested in buying ammo around march or april please post what youre interested in. i need to work out some numbers to see if an official group buy is worth it.

thanks all that participated - happy holidays
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