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Posted: 2/22/2006 4:28:07 PM EDT
Can a person use an AR pistol for deer hunting in a shotgun only zone? I think that would be cool to show up at deer camp with one and hear all the "what the _______?????"

Thanx,Stang
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:38:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2006 4:23:13 AM EDT by HKMP5A2]
My best guess would be yes if it is a shotgun & Handgun zone.
I'm sure Photoman will read this post and he is up on DNR Regulations
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:46:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HKMP5A2:
My best guess would be test if it is a shotgun & Handgun zone.
I'm sure Photoman will read this post and he is up on DNR Regulations




Hand guns are pemited in shotgun only zones as far as I know. The only thing is that to get good preformance from it it would probably a need 16in barrel in .223 or 5.56, which well kinda kills it to me.

Now maybe an ar pistol in say 6.8 or 6.5 or even 7.62x39 with the right bullet would work if you wanted a shorter barrel in say the 10in-12in range.

The other thing is if yer like me with AR pistols it could get you into trouble if a warden saw it. I have a tendency to want to put the buffer tube up on my shoulder when I shoot an AR pistol i6t doesn't bug me to do it and thats the way I shoot an AR normaly. If a warden saw ya doing that, it would be have fun spending the money in court because even though it's a pistol I'm sure they could make a great case about it being "used" like a rifle in a shot gun only county.

If you can keep it off yer shoulder I don't see any potential problems using one, but I wouldn't do it with one in .223/5.56mm at least not with a barrel shorter then 14.5 and then ranges would have to be kept at 100 yards or under, preferably under depending on the bullet used.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 4:47:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2006 4:48:15 AM EDT by FMD]

Originally Posted By photoman:
If you can keep it off yer shoulder I don't see any potential problems using one, but I wouldn't do it with one in .223/5.56mm at least not with a barrel shorter then 14.5 and then ranges would have to be kept at 100 yards or under, preferably under depending on the bullet used.



Nothing in the regs (ATF or DNR) on maximum barrel length, AFAIK. Throw your 16 or 20" rifle upper on the pistol lower and have at it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:58:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FMD:

Originally Posted By photoman:
If you can keep it off yer shoulder I don't see any potential problems using one, but I wouldn't do it with one in .223/5.56mm at least not with a barrel shorter then 14.5 and then ranges would have to be kept at 100 yards or under, preferably under depending on the bullet used.



Nothing in the regs (ATF or DNR) on maximum barrel length, AFAIK. Throw your 16 or 20" rifle upper on the pistol lower and have at it.



Never thought of that. Can this be true? Would it still be considered a "pistol"? The reason I want to use an AR pistol is because I thought it could reach out farther than my 12Ga. Sounds like it won't. But a 20 inch, HMMMMMM!!!

Stang
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 4:43:28 AM EDT
FWIW, I would choose a black powder gun in the pistol/shotgun zones as I believe the rifling would make the difference for accuracy. That being said, the AR would be the gun of choice... BUT... not in 223. Hafta be in 762x39 or 6.8 OR..... Beowulf.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 1:40:11 AM EDT
From the 2005 Wisconsin Deer Hunting Regulations Hand Book


Handguns:

• To be legal for deer, handguns must use centerfire cartridges of .22 caliber or
larger and have a 5 1/2 inch minimum barrel, measured from the firing pin to the
muzzle with the action closed.

You must be 18 years old to hunt with or possess a handgun.
Note: Target shooting with handguns by persons under the age of 18 years is
allowed only when supervised by an adult.

• You may not possess a concealed handgun.

• Muzzleloading handguns, see “Muzzleloaders.”


Link found at http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/regs/index.htm
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 9:56:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 9:56:36 AM EDT by photoman]

Originally Posted By mustangwon:

Originally Posted By FMD:

Originally Posted By photoman:
If you can keep it off yer shoulder I don't see any potential problems using one, but I wouldn't do it with one in .223/5.56mm at least not with a barrel shorter then 14.5 and then ranges would have to be kept at 100 yards or under, preferably under depending on the bullet used.



Nothing in the regs (ATF or DNR) on maximum barrel length, AFAIK. Throw your 16 or 20" rifle upper on the pistol lower and have at it.



Never thought of that. Can this be true? Would it still be considered a "pistol"? The reason I want to use an AR pistol is because I thought it could reach out farther than my 12Ga. Sounds like it won't. But a 20 inch, HMMMMMM!!!

Stang



You can put any legth barrel on it you want to. But then it kind of defeats the purpose of hunting with a pistol if you have a rifle/carbine length barrel.
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