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Posted: 4/24/2020 2:10:25 AM EDT
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Gonna spend the day in the G-town ICU today.
I'll let you all know how it looks. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 8:49:20 AM EDT
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Thanks ecgRN, looking forward to it. We have been mostly spared from the Wuflu here in GJ, other than the usual financial ruin from closing most businesses.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 11:01:21 AM EDT
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13 at PVH, varying states of sick....some really bad, some getting extubated soon...hopefully.
Greeley down to 7 in their 11 bed ICU. All of them sick and tubed. We'll have to see how this JBL thing goes. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 6:18:16 PM EDT
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So, Weld County.
Pretty bad numbers and a quick reopening planned anyway. Any locals have an idea about all this? |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:18:06 PM EDT
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Just got back from G-town.
Hospital is full of covidia. Only 7 intubated, but 25+ positives. If they need tubing, they go to MCR or PVH (mostly PVH). I don't know why they are opening until this JBL thing gets under wraps. Greeley is a hot bed of sickness. |
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Posted: 4/24/2020 7:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have mixed feelings about this. If proper precautions are taken, the economy can be relit safely, however from my excursions into the "wild" as of late, I don't think most people know how or care enough to protect themselves and others sufficiently. It’s only five days earlier than the EO expiration iirc. The entire state is allowed to reopen all businesses by the 4th of May with “proper” safeguards in place. The economy needs to reopen. People are going to die and that sucks but people die every day and life goes on. We could save tens of thousands of lives every year by permanently shutting down parts of daily life but we don’t because we accept, as a society, that people are going to die and we decide its worth it. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 10:23:15 AM EDT
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Thanks for the update ecg. I’m in a bubble out here. Or a tipi.
Playing with the locally made tent.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 10:20:25 PM EDT
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Just got back from covidville.
Weld county will be a hot spot soon. It'll overflow into Larimer (as in transferring patients). Might not be a swell idea to open way back up Monday. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:44:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got back from covidville. Weld county will be a hot spot soon. It'll overflow into Larimer (as in transferring patients). Might not be a swell idea to open way back up Monday. We have so few cases in grand jct it is like a non event. Then 100 miles up the road in Eagle county, hammer time. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 9:51:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got back from covidville. Weld county will be a hot spot soon. It'll overflow into Larimer (as in transferring patients). Might not be a swell idea to open way back up Monday. Can you elaborate on that? |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 10:47:54 AM EDT
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More positive cases showing up in (Greeley) ERs. More inpatient beds needed, some ICU. Greeley ICU is full, overflow coming here (PVH).
The number of positive cases in Weld is going to grow, and based on what I've seen, the number of ICU cases will too. Some of these people have been on a vent a loooong time. Some are buying traches. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 11:37:28 AM EDT
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ecg, are these pts older and/or some pre-existing med condition?
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Posted: 4/26/2020 11:54:05 AM EDT
[#13]
A little of both. There have also been a few healthy youngsters (35-50)
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Posted: 4/26/2020 12:33:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks, mostly worried about my wife. Older and asthma.
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Posted: 4/27/2020 5:27:34 PM EDT
[#15]
Even though I sit in on my local county (western slope) EOC call in meetings I don’t have much to report. It sounds like mostly the medical folks sharing nowadays, as opposed to public safety, schools, etc. On the Med side, it sounds like they’re still working towards being ready for “the surge”. Im seeing a huge increase in the numbers of people camping and getting out hiking, 4 wheeling and mountain biking. 2 weeks ago I was all for it - what better way for people to exercise and maintain social distancing. After this weekend, I’m not so sure. Our local trails and camping areas are getting trashed  . I extinguished almost a half dozen fires that dimwits had left smoldering. Lots of folks coming down from the mountain towns and a ton of people displaced by the Moab closures. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 6:22:32 PM EDT
[#16]
I’ve seen the same between GJ and the Utah border. Many from ski country.
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Posted: 4/29/2020 5:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More positive cases showing up in (Greeley) ERs. More inpatient beds needed, some ICU. Greeley ICU is full, overflow coming here (PVH). The number of positive cases in Weld is going to grow, and based on what I've seen, the number of ICU cases will too. Some of these people have been on a vent a loooong time. Some are buying traches. @ecgRN I heard that most of the deaths in Weld were nursing home residents. Do you know if that's true? Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 5:15:18 PM EDT
[#18]
I haven't been tracking Broomfield, but apparently things ...
Broomfield Public Health director says virus trajectory heading in wrong direction |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 6:31:22 PM EDT
[#19]
Not just nursing homes.
New positive people are showing up in the ED daily. Some are mildly ill, while others go straight to the ICU. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 7:42:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Not just nursing homes. New positive people are showing up in the ED daily. Some are mildly ill, while others go straight to the ICU. Thank you for the updates. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 7:50:37 PM EDT
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My family showed the signs of it this last weekend. Fever, muscle ache, lack of energy, sore throat, some GI issues. The temps never really went over 100 for anyone, and everyone is doing fine now. I figure we are some of the population who has gotten it and had minimal reaction to asymptomatic. I wouldn't even have known my daughter had anything since she was happy as a clam if I hadn't checked her temp because she needed to get it checked when she saw us checking ours.
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Posted: 4/30/2020 9:58:21 AM EDT
[#22]
@ecgRN
What is the treatment being prescribed for COVID-19? |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 10:07:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: My family showed the signs of it this last weekend. Fever, muscle ache, lack of energy, sore throat, some GI issues. The temps never really went over 100 for anyone, and everyone is doing fine now. I figure we are some of the population who has gotten it and had minimal reaction to asymptomatic. I wouldn't even have known my daughter had anything since she was happy as a clam if I hadn't checked her temp because she needed to get it checked when she saw us checking ours. Do you suspect where the transmission occurred - and if you are in a small town then contact tracing through the county health folks may benefit others. contact tracing example There are free drive-up testing places popping up on the front range too. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 12:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: @ecgRN I heard that most of the deaths in Weld were nursing home residents. Do you know if that's true? Thanks. As of 4/29 there were 27 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, in nursing homes in Weld county. Total deaths in Weld county were at 93 on that date, so that's about 29%. Here is the link that tracks those stats: Outbreaks in Colorado's nursing homes, prisons, meat packing plants, etc. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 12:27:38 PM EDT
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If someone needs a bit more detail on Weld County data, try https://www.weldgov.com/departments/health_and_environment/2019_novel_coronavirus/covid19_data
The Denver Channel is reporting that the biggest outbreaks are at JBS and the Sterling Correctional Facility. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 12:47:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you suspect where the transmission occurred - and if you are in a small town then contact tracing through the county health folks may benefit others. contact tracing example There are free drive-up testing places popping up on the front range too. Grocery store most likely since that is one of the few places I go with others around. I am in the Denver Metro. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 1:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tmleadr03: Grocery store most likely since that is one of the few places I go with others around. I am in the Denver Metro. https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/26/coronavirus-testing-colorado-king-soopers-covid-19/ |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 1:15:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWe are just assuming we got it. Mild symptom and asymptomatic issues is all. I am taking precautions to keep the spread with just us. I am working but no one is allowed in my shop. Drop the car off, leave the key and I will deal with the vehicle and then call you and take payment over the phone. Car gets disinfected before it leaves. It is actually making my life easier I think since I really don't like dealing with people that much. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 1:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vim: If someone needs a bit more detail on Weld County data, try https://www.weldgov.com/departments/health_and_environment/2019_novel_coronavirus/covid19_data The Denver Channel is reporting that the biggest outbreaks are at JBS and the Sterling Correctional Facility. Great, so when are they going to release all the prisoners from Sterling? |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 6:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Great, so when are they going to release all the prisoners from Sterling? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Originally Posted By vim: If someone needs a bit more detail on Weld County data, try https://www.weldgov.com/departments/health_and_environment/2019_novel_coronavirus/covid19_data The Denver Channel is reporting that the biggest outbreaks are at JBS and the Sterling Correctional Facility. Great, so when are they going to release all the prisoners from Sterling? Hopefully on a day with strong enough winds that it carries them out of state. |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 6:13:47 PM EDT
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This opinion piece of Polis's published yesterday is worth reading. Like him or not, he sets policy, and it's good to know how he's seeing things.
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/29/polis-colorado-safer-at-home-coronavirus-covid/ |
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Posted: 4/30/2020 8:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vim: This opinion piece of Polis's published yesterday is worth reading. Like him or not, he sets policy, and it's good to know how he's seeing things. https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/29/polis-colorado-safer-at-home-coronavirus-covid/ Compared to other D-guvnors he has been very surprisingly benign. I would have expected much worse from that half-a-fag Hickenlooper  That said, I have no doubt that Polis would sign a shoot-on-sight order for conservatives in a heartbeat 
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Posted: 5/1/2020 2:56:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thedave1164: @ecgRN What is the treatment being prescribed for COVID-19? Plaquenil was used at first, with out major results. Now it's just pressure support on the vent and broad spectrum ABX. Covid is strange. The lungs don't "harden" like with ARDS, but they sure as heck dont exchange gases well. Seeing a lot of clotting issues with Covid as well. |
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Posted: 5/1/2020 5:26:25 PM EDT
[#34]
I’m glad to see the front line updates from ecgRN, but I have to stay clear of the internet for a few. This thing is really getting me down, and I’m healthy. Stay frosty all. I picked a bad time to quit Copenhagen for sure.
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Posted: 5/1/2020 7:45:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vim: This opinion piece of Polis's published yesterday is worth reading. Like him or not, he sets policy, and it's good to know how he's seeing things. https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/29/polis-colorado-safer-at-home-coronavirus-covid/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vim: This opinion piece of Polis's published yesterday is worth reading. Like him or not, he sets policy, and it's good to know how he's seeing things. https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/29/polis-colorado-safer-at-home-coronavirus-covid/ Fuck him. He's still scare mongering and setting the stage for denying us our civil rights. Before the stay-at-home order, new coronavirus cases in Colorado were growing at a staggering 66% rate, threatening our hospital capacity and under scientific models, potentially leading to over 30,000 deaths of our friends, neighbors, and loved ones here in our state. So a state with less than 2% of the country's population was going to account for 50% of it's deaths? The brutal, honest truth is that we will likely need to maintain some level of distancing in our society and continue to wear facial coverings in public until there’s a cure or a vaccine for COVID-19. This guy is out of his fucking mind if he thinks Americans are going to wear masks for the next 12+ months and what happens if we don't come up with a vaccine? But we can’t just turn things on and off like a light switch. Pretty rich considering the speed and ease they shut down the majority of the economy in a matter of days. We all need to continue to take this seriously and do right by our fellow Coloradans. If we don’t, we’ll have to tighten restrictions again. Nobody wants that. Yea, I'm sure nobody wants to keep exerting the kind of authoritarianism we've seen recently. |
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Posted: 5/2/2020 4:23:36 PM EDT
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When do we reopen?
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Posted: 5/2/2020 7:17:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4v50: When do we reopen? It is already happening! https://gazette.com/news/local/safer-at-home-in-colorado-a-step-by-step-guide-to-whats-coming/article_12084f7a-858c-11ea-89c1-6bc77a557b77.html I had legal haircut on Friday, as well as a by-appointment retail shopping success  Today on the 2nd I met up with a crony for take-out breakfast, no masks no problem. There was some guy in GD posting about a 10-mile travel restriction from the guvnor. That may be accurate, or bullshit, but I have not found anything online to confirm it. Maybe it just applies to the shithole of Denver? For what it is worth, El Paso County says this https://www.elpasocountyhealth.org/sites/default/files/COVID-19%20Safer%20at%20Home%20PHO%20Guidance%20 |
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Posted: 5/2/2020 8:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is already happening! https://gazette.com/news/local/safer-at-home-in-colorado-a-step-by-step-guide-to-whats-coming/article_12084f7a-858c-11ea-89c1-6bc77a557b77.html I had legal haircut on Friday, as well as a by-appointment retail shopping success Today on the 2nd I met up with a crony for take-out breakfast, no masks no problem. There was some guy in GD posting about a 10-mile travel restriction from the guvnor. That may be accurate, or bullshit, but I have not found anything online to confirm it. Maybe it just applies to the shithole of Denver? For what it is worth, El Paso County says this https://www.elpasocountyhealth.org/sites/default/files/COVID-19%20Safer%20at%20Home%20PHO%20Guidance%20 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When do we reopen? It is already happening! https://gazette.com/news/local/safer-at-home-in-colorado-a-step-by-step-guide-to-whats-coming/article_12084f7a-858c-11ea-89c1-6bc77a557b77.html I had legal haircut on Friday, as well as a by-appointment retail shopping success Today on the 2nd I met up with a crony for take-out breakfast, no masks no problem. There was some guy in GD posting about a 10-mile travel restriction from the guvnor. That may be accurate, or bullshit, but I have not found anything online to confirm it. Maybe it just applies to the shithole of Denver? For what it is worth, El Paso County says this https://www.elpasocountyhealth.org/sites/default/files/COVID-19%20Safer%20at%20Home%20PHO%20Guidance%20 The opening restaurants with limited capacity is going to be a joke, there are no restaurants that won't lose money operating at 1/3 capacity. |
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Posted: 5/2/2020 10:32:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: It is already happening! https://gazette.com/news/local/safer-at-home-in-colorado-a-step-by-step-guide-to-whats-coming/article_12084f7a-858c-11ea-89c1-6bc77a557b77.html There was some guy in GD posting about a 10-mile travel restriction from the guvnor. That may be accurate, or bullshit, but I have not found anything online to confirm it. Maybe it just applies to the shithole of Denver? 10 mile for rec is mentioned in the 1st link you posted |
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Posted: 5/3/2020 9:56:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMO: 10 mile for rec is mentioned in the 1st link you posted I'm still not finding it, might be blind though  I don't like or trust Polis, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as some other governors. |
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Posted: 5/3/2020 11:42:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Plaquenil was used at first, with out major results. Now it's just pressure support on the vent and broad spectrum ABX. Covid is strange. The lungs don't "harden" like with ARDS, but they sure as heck dont exchange gases well. Seeing a lot of clotting issues with Covid as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ecgRN: Originally Posted By thedave1164: @ecgRN What is the treatment being prescribed for COVID-19? Plaquenil was used at first, with out major results. Now it's just pressure support on the vent and broad spectrum ABX. Covid is strange. The lungs don't "harden" like with ARDS, but they sure as heck dont exchange gases well. Seeing a lot of clotting issues with Covid as well. Thanks, you confirmed my assumptions. Plan A is not to get sick. Plan B is get to SD if I do. The Docs at NCMC saved my life last year, but I will take my chances with the cocktail before going on a vent |
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Posted: 5/3/2020 12:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: I'm still not finding it, might be blind though I don't like or trust Polis, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as some other governors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: Originally Posted By RMO: 10 mile for rec is mentioned in the 1st link you posted I'm still not finding it, might be blind though I don't like or trust Polis, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as some other governors. I think he doesn't want to be run out of office. |
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Posted: 5/3/2020 12:19:12 PM EDT
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Next door neighbors just had a bouncy castle erected in the back yard. Looks like a big old kids birthday party is about to kick off.
I am thinking this might be a bit premature. |
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Posted: 5/3/2020 6:37:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: I'm still not finding it, might be blind though I don't like or trust Polis, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as some other governors. Not a Polinass fan in anyway, but we could have a lot worse ruining the state. If Dickinpooper was still in office it wouldn't surprise me if he had us shut down like Whitler in Michigan. I don't trust politicians, Demo or Repub. |
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Posted: 5/4/2020 8:36:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: I'm still not finding it, might be blind though I don't like or trust Polis, but he hasn't been nearly as bad as some other governors. that's a pretty low bar |
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Posted: 5/5/2020 5:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thedave1164: Thanks, you confirmed my assumptions. Plan A is not to get sick. Plan B is get to SD if I do. The Docs at NCMC saved my life last year, but I will take my chances with the cocktail before going on a vent With what we know today about putting COVID Pt's on a vent is different from what we were doing a month ago. There are times where a vent is unavoidable with COVID and life saving when we do go that route. I've had many Pt's that I put on a vent recover and go home, several to much higher altitudes than were we were treating them (lower partial pressure of O2 at higher altitudes, which makes gas diffusion more difficult) Let me say if you are getting your healthcare information from the media it's like having a first grader doing your auto maintenance. The fear mongering media kills folks with regularity with their moronic views and misinformation. If it were myself or one of my family members, I'd opt for the vent in a heart beat. Vent's work and save life's. |
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Posted: 5/6/2020 7:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YO_Doc: With what we know today about putting COVID Pt's on a vent is different from what we were doing a month ago. There are times where a vent is unavoidable with COVID and life saving when we do go that route. I've had many Pt's that I put on a vent recover and go home, several to much higher altitudes than were we were treating them (lower partial pressure of O2 at higher altitudes, which makes gas diffusion more difficult) Let me say if you are getting your healthcare information from the media it's like having a first grader doing your auto maintenance. The fear mongering media kills folks with regularity with their moronic views and misinformation. If it were myself or one of my family members, I'd opt for the vent in a heart beat. Vent's work and save life's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YO_Doc: Originally Posted By thedave1164: Thanks, you confirmed my assumptions. Plan A is not to get sick. Plan B is get to SD if I do. The Docs at NCMC saved my life last year, but I will take my chances with the cocktail before going on a vent With what we know today about putting COVID Pt's on a vent is different from what we were doing a month ago. There are times where a vent is unavoidable with COVID and life saving when we do go that route. I've had many Pt's that I put on a vent recover and go home, several to much higher altitudes than were we were treating them (lower partial pressure of O2 at higher altitudes, which makes gas diffusion more difficult) Let me say if you are getting your healthcare information from the media it's like having a first grader doing your auto maintenance. The fear mongering media kills folks with regularity with their moronic views and misinformation. If it were myself or one of my family members, I'd opt for the vent in a heart beat. Vent's work and save life's. I know vents work, I was on one for 3 days last year after a thoracotomy for a lung infection. And a friend of the family has just come off a vent after 3 weeks, he was on it due to the corona, he is now on a trach, and will have months of rehab. A couple of other people we know did not come off of it alive. My problem is with the treatment prior to being in a condition where you have to go on a vent. I want options and choices, and Colorado does not have it where I am at. |
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Posted: 5/6/2020 10:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YO_Doc: With what we know today about putting COVID Pt's on a vent is different from what we were doing a month ago. There are times where a vent is unavoidable with COVID and life saving when we do go that route. I've had many Pt's that I put on a vent recover and go home, several to much higher altitudes than were we were treating them (lower partial pressure of O2 at higher altitudes, which makes gas diffusion more difficult) Let me say if you are getting your healthcare information from the media it's like having a first grader doing your auto maintenance. The fear mongering media kills folks with regularity with their moronic views and misinformation. If it were myself or one of my family members, I'd opt for the vent in a heart beat. Vent's work and save life's. I'd take my chances without one. When 60-85% people put on a vent end up dying, I'd rather roll the dice on making due without. |
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Posted: 5/9/2020 4:32:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2020 1:32:36 PM EDT
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Apparently 61% of Colorado's fatalities are from nursing homes and senior care centers.
https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/13/coronavirus-deaths-nursing-homes-meatpacking-colorado/ |
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