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Posted: 4/3/2020 2:31:52 PM EDT
[#1]
I have a feeling its going to be even longer. So, May 5th comes around and everyone just goes back to normal? The virus is still gonna be around. People need to plan ahead into summer or longer. I think the real collapse is yet to come, when people stop paying rent and mortgage payments. I'm sorry, but a one time $1200 from uncle sam is not even enough to pay rent/mortgage for most of us in the PNW. After this crap is over, we are gonna need a huge national employment project like rebuilding America's roads, bridges, etc.... To put people back to work. Another way and I do not wish this, a war erupting from this and lifting America back up.
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Posted: 4/3/2020 2:48:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I agree... It will be good to get through this peak HOPEFULLY this month though, that should help calm things when numbers actually go down.
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Posted: 4/3/2020 5:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling its going to be even longer. So, May 5th comes around and everyone just goes back to normal? The virus is still gonna be around. People need to plan ahead into summer or longer. I think the real collapse is yet to come, when people stop paying rent and mortgage payments. I'm sorry, but a one time $1200 from uncle sam is not even enough to pay rent/mortgage for most of us in the PNW. After this crap is over, we are gonna need a huge national employment project like rebuilding America's roads, bridges, etc.... To put people back to work. Another way and I do not wish this, a war erupting from this and lifting America back up. I canceled my June trip. I think the stay at home order will go into June or beyond. Schools will be canceled altogether. |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 5:35:50 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm out running around a bit today and every bank I've driven by has had lines out into the street.
What's going on that wasn't Wednesday? (last time I was out) |
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Posted: 4/3/2020 5:53:00 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm out running around a bit today and every bank I've driven by has had lines out into the street. What's going on that wasn't Wednesday? (last time I was out) Today is Friday and the 1st Friday of the new month so those may be a reasons for increased business. |
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Posted: 4/6/2020 6:18:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Lake Washington school district just canceled school for the rest of the year. I knew that would happen.
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Posted: 4/6/2020 7:56:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lake Washington school district just canceled school for the rest of the year. I knew that would happen. Whew, at least it’s just the one district |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:16:19 AM EDT
[#8]
So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake.
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:33:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whew, at least it’s just the one district You must have been joking ... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/inslee-announces-k-12-classrooms-in-washington-to-remain-closed-through-end-of-school-year/ar-BB12eYl1 |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake. I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:48:52 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake. I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:52:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. Good point. I was out at la push yesterday and everything was closed there and the way out. If I could get my boat in the water I would have at it. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:52:41 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. That's what I'm getting at. I haven't actually gone out and looked |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:54:21 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake. I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. You can definitely still boat, read on FB guys were stopped by wdfw boat on the Columbia and we're told to have a good time so long as no rods were out. Hard part is finding where to launch. I'd be looking at more rustic county and city owned ramps, all the bigger ramps and state owned stuff is closed. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can definitely still boat, read on FB guys were stopped by wdfw boat on the Columbia and we're told to have a good time so long as no rods were out. Hard part is finding where to launch. I'd be looking at more rustic county and city owned ramps, all the bigger ramps and state owned stuff is closed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake. I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. You can definitely still boat, read on FB guys were stopped by wdfw boat on the Columbia and we're told to have a good time so long as no rods were out. Hard part is finding where to launch. I'd be looking at more rustic county and city owned ramps, all the bigger ramps and state owned stuff is closed. You can still boat. I've moved two boats with my dad the last few days. Took off from Bellingham and headed North. Coast Guard didn't stop us. My parents boat launch in their community has been chained up. It's not time to put my boat in the water yet. But I plan on putting it in around June. Wouldn't surprise me if the lock and chain were gone in a few weeks. My buddy just launched in Blaine on Sunday and had no issues. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 2:13:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can still boat. I've moved two boats with my dad the last few days. Took off from Bellingham and headed North. Coast Guard didn't stop us. My parents boat launch in their community has been chained up. It's not time to put my boat in the water yet. But I plan on putting it in around June. Wouldn't surprise me if the lock and chain were gone in a few weeks. My buddy just launched in Blaine on Sunday and had no issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So can I be out on the water at all despite the no fishing rule? Kids are dying to get off of the property and I have a boat that's been sitting on the trailer for too long. Would just like to go and putt around on the lake. I would do whatever you wanted. What law are you breaking taking your boat out? Does he have access to a private ramp? Pretty all the public ones are closed. You can definitely still boat, read on FB guys were stopped by wdfw boat on the Columbia and we're told to have a good time so long as no rods were out. Hard part is finding where to launch. I'd be looking at more rustic county and city owned ramps, all the bigger ramps and state owned stuff is closed. You can still boat. I've moved two boats with my dad the last few days. Took off from Bellingham and headed North. Coast Guard didn't stop us. My parents boat launch in their community has been chained up. It's not time to put my boat in the water yet. But I plan on putting it in around June. Wouldn't surprise me if the lock and chain were gone in a few weeks. My buddy just launched in Blaine on Sunday and had no issues. They could be gone in a minute or so with a cordless grinder 
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Posted: 4/7/2020 4:20:33 PM EDT
[#17]
If I had more time I'd rig up a bunch of cameras and go troll a lead weight in front of them. No hooks. Just to fuck with the fish cops.
Everett is probably still usable, I doubt anyone is there to bug you Closure of half the launch lanes at the boat launch; restricted access to support life safety functions, essential commercial uses, tribal access and transportation access to Hat Island |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 7:04:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Are the gates on the roads into state forests closed?
If the weather stays reasonably nice my family would probably enjoy a trip out to stomp around in the woods. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:30:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Inslee says special session for State Leg. Buckle up.
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:48:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Inslee says special session for State Leg. Buckle up. What? Where? Link? So much for social distancing |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:56:20 PM EDT
[#21]
He said 'may'.
If they use this to pass gun laws....  https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/inslee-special-legislative-session-likely-because-of-virus-outbreak |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:58:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He said 'may'. We all know what that means |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 12:07:16 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We all know what that means yeah, that means in May he'll call them back, right after he announces that we're still on fucking lockdown until June 4th..... |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 4:57:29 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are the gates on the roads into state forests closed? If the weather stays reasonably nice my family would probably enjoy a trip out to stomp around in the woods. Nope, blasted all day yesterday ETA: Fuck Inslee I can hike further than fish cops want to drive. |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 8:57:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He said 'may'. If they use this to pass gun laws.... https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/inslee-special-legislative-session-likely-because-of-virus-outbreak I am confident they will try. |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 8:13:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, blasted all day yesterday ETA: Fuck Inslee I can hike further than fish cops want to drive. Awesome! Thanks |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 9:23:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Hints of possible extension coming...and WA already has one of the latest lockdown dates in the county...and considering how off the models have been in some cases...
Meanwhile, low and behold, many landlords and others are still wanting their $$...people are realizing things aren't going to be waived, only delayed/postponed...if they're lucky...roiugh times ahead to put it mildly. Boss |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 10:11:22 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hints of possible extension coming...and WA already has one of the latest lockdown dates in the county...and considering how off the models have been in some cases... Meanwhile, low and behold, many landlords and others are still wanting their $$...people are realizing things aren't going to be waived, only delayed/postponed...if they're lucky...roiugh times ahead to put it mildly. Boss Does he want riots? Honestly, if he has another extension I think he will see riots. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 10:23:46 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hints of possible extension coming...and WA already has one of the latest lockdown dates in the county...and considering how off the models have been in some cases... Meanwhile, low and behold, many landlords and others are still wanting their $$...people are realizing things aren't going to be waived, only delayed/postponed...if they're lucky...roiugh times ahead to put it mildly. Boss I mean if I was a landlord I would want to be paid same as if I was selling groceries. There better not be anymore extensions or people will not obey. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:06:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Every morning I go out for my coffee, I see more and more people. People are getting tired of the government intrusion into their lives. Denying a person of their lively hood and being able to provide for their family will reach a limit soon, very soon.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:47:52 AM EDT
[#31]
We had an all-company conference call yesterday (company is based here in WA). Our CEO mentioned we should “be prepared for the possibility of working remotely for another 30 days”. While certainly an easy comment to make, something tells me that Olympia quietly gives WA business leaders a head’s up of what’s to come before the official announcement over the media.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 11:57:25 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PACorps While certainly an easy comment to make, something tells me that Olympia quietly gives WA business leaders a head's up of what's to come before the official announcement over the media. I don't think they give them a straight out heads up - I think Oly is a gossip factory and they hear rumors |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:05:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think they give them a straight out heads up - I think Oly is a gossip factory and they hear rumors Quote HistoryQuoted: Originally Posted By PACorps While certainly an easy comment to make, something tells me that Olympia quietly gives WA business leaders a head's up of what's to come before the official announcement over the media. I don't think they give them a straight out heads up - I think Oly is a gossip factory and they hear rumors It’s also the job of risk analysis groups to think up and prepare for contingencies like this. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 12:59:18 PM EDT
[#34]
People are already increasingly not obeying. Traffic has been increasing. What’s the point of having people not go to work if they are just going to crowd together at Walmart, Home Depot, Costco, etc?
What we really need is strict enforcement of the current lockdown to keep all of the non-essentials from clogging up my commute to work. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:14:48 PM EDT
[#35]
I was out picking up some fencing I ordered yesterday and boy traffic has picked up quite a lot from even a week or so ago. I-5 S and N bound from Tacoma specifically.
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Posted: 4/11/2020 1:49:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People are already increasingly not obeying. Traffic has been increasing. What’s the point of having people not go to work if they are just going to crowd together at Walmart, Home Depot, Costco, etc? What we really need is strict enforcement of the current lockdown to keep all of the non-essentials from clogging up my commute to work. Traffic is still so light that I dont have to worry about missing the Edmonds Ferry if I drive my truck on a Friday instead of my motorcycle. It's usually a 1.5 to 2 hour wait at this point of the year and right now it's a half full boat. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 2:14:35 PM EDT
[#37]
What you're seeing is what everyone predicted, that once spring and summer weather started to roll around people would increasingly ignore any stay at home order.
I've been a regular at Lowe's while getting some yard projects done. Lots of people doing the same. Masks no masks 50/50. Saw a dude wearing a full face shield yesterday. Home Depot started enforcing a line at the front of the store and timing people so I stopped going there. |
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Posted: 4/11/2020 4:33:36 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was out picking up some fencing I ordered yesterday and boy traffic has picked up quite a lot from even a week or so ago. I-5 S and N bound from Tacoma specifically. Same on the east side. I have been from Spokane, through the Tri Cities to Yakima, and to Cle Elum back to Spooky twice this week, and traffic has definitely tripled since the sun came out. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 12:34:30 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What you're seeing is what everyone predicted, that once spring and summer weather started to roll around people would increasingly ignore any stay at home order. I've been a regular at Lowe's while getting some yard projects done. Lots of people doing the same. Masks no masks 50/50. Saw a dude wearing a full face shield yesterday. Home Depot started enforcing a line at the front of the store and timing people so I stopped going there. Same at Home Depot. I asked this dude that was working around the line if they were trying to get me used to the Soviet Bread Lines. He thought it was funny, but other people in line looked at me like I was crazy. For real, thinking that it is normal to stand in line to go in Home Depot, is crazy. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 4:28:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Everything I'm reading is showing Inslee doing well in the polls over this fiasco, I hope his failures as we go in to recovery get noted and whoever his opposition ends up being starts seriously standing up. Damn it would be nice to get him out of office.
And why the fuck is fishing and so many of the boat launches STILL closed? Tired of everything closing so early, how the hell you supposed to do a home depot run after work by 6pm? Oh yeah you can't have to go by 5 and stand in line with a bunch of people because they crammed everyone in to a shorter window. |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 11:00:14 AM EDT
[#41]
There definitely seems to be an uptick in people going out for some fresh air. Weather is supposed to be nice this week.
The populararity, or lack thereof, of some of the political decisions will become clearer as this goes on. Boss |
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Posted: 4/12/2020 11:10:49 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People are already increasingly not obeying. Traffic has been increasing. What’s the point of having people not go to work if they are just going to crowd together at Walmart, Home Depot, Costco, etc? What we really need is strict enforcement of the current lockdown to keep all of the non-essentials from clogging up my commute to work. Definitely,. The line at my coffee stand is getting too long again! People need to stay home. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 2:23:36 AM EDT
[#43]
We're at the end of day 28 of the national shutdown and nearing the end of normal 'grace periods' for rent/mortgage due dates...with updated models/much lower projections, it seems like the tide is starting turn...
Will be interesting to see where we are in another 7-10 days. Boss |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 10:23:42 AM EDT
[#44]
Traffic definitely picking up.
Home Depot’s lines are stupid I said f that. But Lowe’s? Holy shit packed like any normal summer weekend nope no way. Went to HD at 6 right when they opened and was only a few people inside. Pro tip: Home Depot will do curbside delivery of items you order for store pickup. |
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Posted: 4/14/2020 8:16:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every morning I go out for my coffee, I see more and more people. People are getting tired of the government intrusion into their lives. Denying a person of their lively hood and being able to provide for their family will reach a limit soon, very soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Every morning I go out for my coffee, I see more and more people. People are getting tired of the government intrusion into their lives. Denying a person of their lively hood and being able to provide for their family will reach a limit soon, very soon. And they will do what...? Still vote for the latest, greatest D party candidate in the cycles to come, that's what. The W side of this state, along with Spokane & Whitman counties, are hook/line/sinker on the glorious party's reel, & nothing will change that, & the party knows it. Hike taxes & to build toll roads to siphon more of your $$$? Thank you sir, may I have another!!! They aren't going to see any consequences. Protests? So what? Remember all the bitching at the county council when the homeless encampments descended on the city & the shit & used syringes were piling up in parks & yards? Yeah, nothing about it now, & even more radical candidates are wading in for a shot at a seat. And they'll get in. They might even be planning to just screw over the landlords by bleeding them out, taking over their properties, & housing those tenants for "free". Guess who's gonna bankroll that...? Quoted: People are already increasingly not obeying. Traffic has been increasing. What’s the point of having people not go to work if they are just going to crowd together at Walmart, Home Depot, Costco, etc? What we really need is strict enforcement of the current lockdown to keep all of the non-essentials from clogging up my commute to work. The "plan" was foolish. The few locations allowed to remain open would predictably become concentration transmission vectors. There is no way to contain a contagion - if that's what this is all really about - if large hubs of social interaction are still active. I was in contact with fewer people at work than at Costco & or Lowe's. |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 11:11:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Multi-thousand protest in Michigan yesterday.
NJ Governor admitting on TV last night he wasn't thinking about the Bill of Rights when he enacted some of his lockdown restrictions...  NJ governor ignores Bill of Rights in exclusive Tucker interview Patience is starting to fray in some places... Boss |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 4:36:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Any guesses on how long Inslee tries to extend the shelter in place?
He can't be outdone by Wisconsin! |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 5:44:57 PM EDT
[#48]
These states are all past our May 4th date, I'm sure the WA/OR/CA brain trust will try and out do all the other states.
Rhode Island - May 8th New York - May 15th Vermont - May 15th District of Columbia - May 15th Delaware - May 15th Connecticut - Mat 20th Wisconsin - May 26th Nebraska - Some types of stores order closed till May 31 Virginia - June 10th Alaska - No End Date California - No End Date Maryland - No End Date New Jersey - No End Date Oregon - No End Date West Virginia - No End Date |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 6:19:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any guesses on how long Inslee tries to extend the shelter in place? He can't be outdone by Wisconsin! 2weeks |
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Posted: 4/16/2020 9:42:44 PM EDT
[#50]
I emailed all the republican legislators asking what they were doing to help end the lock down. I thought there was something in the law that required the legislative majority and minority leaders to both sign off on what Inslee's doing, if the legislature isn't in session. One rep emailed me back and said Inslee is wording the orders specifically to avoid legislative approval. Also that the legislature could reign him in with a bill, which would be vetoed and it would be doubtful the veto would be overridden.
This is sounding like a dictatorship. |
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