I-1491 WTF - Page 1

Posted: 10/20/2017 2:46:58 AM EDT

I-1491 passed almost a year ago and I have heard jack squat about it. I also have not seen an order issued under it in my county.

Did I miss a ruling or caselaw?

The only "quick" search engine links are to the text and Seattle media articles lauding it passing (

) Does anyone have an insight to its status?

@Dawgfish

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:30:48 AM EDT

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Feel good measure. Not actually used for anything

Posted: 10/20/2017 10:02:29 AM EDT

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Typically with things like protection orders, you only hear about them when they fail. I would guess a few have been issued... somewhere in the state. But the individuals receiving them aren't challenging them.

We'll hear about it when one is issued based on incomplete or false information, and the respondent challenges it.

Or you could ask each and every court in the state how many order's have been issued under the provision of 1491.

Posted: 10/20/2017 12:59:24 PM EDT

[#3]

Oregon is in the news with their own version of it.

Posted: 10/24/2017 12:09:19 AM EDT

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I know it was "Feel Good" legislation but I would have seen an order to surrender by now and I haven't. Maybe in the corridor but I have not heard of anywhere else.

@Phil_in_Seattle that news story is what got me thinking about I1491

Posted: 11/12/2017 9:23:42 PM EDT

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I know it was "Feel Good" legislation but I would have seen an order to surrender by now and I haven't. Maybe in the corridor but I have not heard of anywhere else.

@Phil_in_Seattle that news story is what got me thinking about I1491

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Both it, and I-594, are little-used. Lots of people think that's a good thing, but I take the contrarian view. They remain part of state law, ready to dust off and put into practice whenever .gov chooses.

They also serve to make people more comfortable with incremental gun control. "See, they added this law and it really doesn't have any effect. It will be OK if they add a restriction on magazines, they won't really enforce it, and all the old stuff is grandfathered"

Posted: 11/13/2017 4:47:31 AM EDT

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Both it, and I-594, are little-used. Lots of people think that's a good thing, but I take the contrarian view. They remain part of state law, ready to dust off and put into practice whenever .gov chooses.

They also serve to make people more comfortable with incremental gun control. "See, they added this law and it really doesn't have any effect. It will be OK if they add a restriction on magazines, they won't really enforce it, and all the old stuff is grandfathered"

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I know it was "Feel Good" legislation but I would have seen an order to surrender by now and I haven't. Maybe in the corridor but I have not heard of anywhere else.

@Phil_in_Seattle that news story is what got me thinking about I1491

Both it, and I-594, are little-used. Lots of people think that's a good thing, but I take the contrarian view. They remain part of state law, ready to dust off and put into practice whenever .gov chooses.

They also serve to make people more comfortable with incremental gun control. "See, they added this law and it really doesn't have any effect. It will be OK if they add a restriction on magazines, they won't really enforce it, and all the old stuff is grandfathered"

Little used? More like intentionally NOT used so it can't be challenged and they can decide at some point in the future start using it after the gun owners forget about it. And by then its been on the books forever and they can use it everywhere without protestors showing up at the capitol building. But until 594 goes through proper legal challenges, I have a hard time considering it actual law.

Posted: 11/13/2017 11:03:06 AM EDT

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Little used? More like intentionally NOT used so it can't be challenged and they can decide at some point in the future start using it after the gun owners forget about it. And by then its been on the books forever and they can use it everywhere without protestors showing up at the capitol building. But until 594 goes through proper legal challenges, I have a hard time considering it actual law.

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SAF has challenged it twice, and been denied standing twice. Apparently the second amendment cannot be enforced until someone is arrested and charged. In the last case, the legislature amended slight changes to the law.

Posted: 11/17/2017 10:11:03 AM EDT

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Just found an instance of an Extreme Risk PO being filed.

I was looking into this article: http://komonews.com/news/local/man-arrested-after-threats-to-kill-you-all-to-university-district-church-ar-15-seized

I then went to the Washington Courts website and entered the whack jobs name and found a record from 11/08 of this year. Likely related to the arrest in the article.

So we can't say it's not being used.

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