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Get out there and collect some signatures!

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Geez not this shit again.

That guy must be broke again and needs another initiative campaign to drain into his own pockets.

Do you like paying 3,4,500 dollars to register your vehicle? Because I don't.

Not really but with the stupid tax structure WA uses that's what pays for the shit I use.  I don't pay income tax and property tax is reasonable.

Eyman is a thief and a fraud. Two bit watch salesman. He's been profiteering from anti tax initiatives for 20 years. Literally stealing from the till.

Anything he supports I will vote against.

Please, tell us more about how ST3 was not just a sound transit scam to line their pockets and fuck the taxpayer. Have fun with your ignorance and thanks for the thread bumps.

Uh....Wut?  Gives me a clue what party you vote for.  

Confusing stance, he makes money off of initiatives, therefore the initiatives themselves are bad?  

I was in the odd position of being able to vote NO on ST3, and yet NOT being in the tax area for it.  Oddly I know of some people who didn't get to vote on it but are in the tax area for it - which might be a legal challenge to their paying the tax but who has time for that?

I don't understand what a I90 train does that I90 buses would not do cheaper and immediately.

Fortunately I don't have to pay property taxes.

I have paid property taxes in four states. WA is the lowest per appraised value. And no income tax. Just high sales tax.

Tim Eyman is a thief and a fraud.

Dude we get it, you're a leftist. Now move along and cuddle up to your Bernie body pillow and it'll be OK.

Wait, he's supposed to work for free?

Ahh shit, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

No, but he's a thief and a liar.  Just yesterday: Tim Eyman sued by state over alleged campaign finance violations

Follow the money chart from WA AG: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3533710-Eyman-Chart-FINAL.html

Eyman settled with the AG in 2002 for similar activities.  

Basically what Eyman does is cook up initiatives, get some contributions, and try to line his pockets with the money, hopefully legally but illegally if necessary.  Sound familiar?  It's what people say all politicians do.

ETA: An overly long and detailed story from that era demonstrates what pisses me off about Eyman.  You all may not know or remember or care, but I do.
From http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20020210&slug=eyman10m

It was one week ago that Eyman confessed he had lied for years about taking a salary from his initiative campaigns.

What emerged in the past week was a picture of a young man so caught up in his own cult of personality — he has noted his supporters viewed him as a "Greek God" — that he didn't realize he had become what he was fighting against. The very act of pretending to be above politics made him as political as those he attacked.
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But Eyman had always said he was not making money off his initiatives. He was afraid that if people knew he was profiting it would tarnish his man-of-the-people credentials.
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He decided to take the money but lie about it.
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Karr wrote him a $45,000 check in late 2000. The next year an additional $157,000 was paid to Eyman's company, money he later said he'd planned to also take as salary.

Karr tried persuading him to go public, saying people would understand. Before he confessed last week, Karr had e-mailed reporters telling them that Eyman had taken a salary from the campaign money.

Until then, Eyman had refused to go public, persisting in what he later described as a charade to maintain moral superiority.

After the I-695 victory and before the lies, Eyman once said he was done with the initiative business.

So don't send him money, just sign the petition and save large sums of money on your vehicle registration. It isn't that fucking complicated.

Beyond Eyman, cutting a tax like vehicle registration fees means something goes unfunded.  I own a truck, three cars, and a motorcycle.  I'd like to pay lower registration fees, but I also like well-maintained roads.  As far as taxes go, I object less to fees where money is spent directly to something related to the fee.  I strongly object to fees and taxes that just go into "the general fund" and the like.

So what is funded by vehicle registration that people want to cut?  ST3?  I think ST3 is overly expensive but I do believe in light rail.  I think"all of the above" (rail, freeway, busing, walkable communities, etc) is the solution to traffic and infrastructure like light rail and freeways are essential to growth.  Buses last until the next session of the legislature.

isn't that what Tim exposed years ago with the initiative for flat rate $30 tabs? The government went wild because all of that tab money was funding everything but the roads. I still remember the talk on the radio about how many Metro bus routes would be cut, etc.

As someone who drives I90 over the mountains and sometimes I5, our roads are anything but well maintained. There are rough areas of road that have been like that for 20 plus years.

SF Bay has one of the most comprehensive light rail systems in the country with BART. I work in Oakland fairly often and wouldn't you know it, my experience is that the freeways are still jammed the fuck up every morning and afternoon, just like in Seattle.

Nothing we do seems to result in well-maintained roads, just endless "adjustment" projects and band-aid resurfacing. I am convinced that the state purposely lets the condition of our roads languish so that they can generate desperation such as what I smell in your post.

Ah, the "but muh roads!" and "muh public transit" arguments to justify wealth redistribution. Where have I heard those before? Oh that's right, from every hardcore leftist I have had the displeasure of knowing.

You are what's wrong with WA and the USA.

Some forms of taxation are more "wealth redistribution" than other forms.  I'm not going to get too worked up arguing that re: car tabs.

And I'll thank you can stop with the personal attacks.

I call it like I see it. I have no respect for socialists that want to destroy western civilization. You can see yourself out of my thread if you don't like it.

This

It hurt bad very bad

Completely agreed, it pisses me off that these idiots have caused our tabs to increase by this much.

My parents spent years voting/pushing to get the tabs to a reasonable level, only to have all that work tossed away by these socialist morons that proclaim this to be for the "greater good".

Screw your "mass transit" and your proclaimed tax increases that will do nothing to improve the road conditions or quality of living for anyone that drives.

I'm sick to death of being punished by the eco-nazis of this state, all because I own a vehicle.

Light rail on the west coast is a liberal dream, trying to build something into a different infrastructure will never work, it's sold on how well it works elsewhere. Here is a clue it doesn't work here, and it never will, our cities are built differently, people here own cars. Why would anyone take a taxi, bus, uber, or walk great distances to board a train? Their not, if they have to do that their taking it all the way to their destination. You plan on carrying bags of merchandise or food on trains? Gonna take the train to Walmart, Target, Costco? Nope, face it all you have been sold is a bunch of bullshit and you are happy to line their pockets, yet go after someone who wants to help save you money? You'd rather pay money to go to most any project other than roads? I don't know Eyman, and who cares if he makes some money for his time and work? I bet you get paid to do a job? Final thing, ever wonder why he's constantly under attack? Think about that.
ETA, anything from the AG's office should be instantly suspect, so maybe go be a leftist somewhere else.

It doesn't create enough make-work or grease enough palms, that's what.

Well, hell dude...walk your talk...get out your check book and empty your account..send it all to the state. you won't will you? folks like you are fine with using force of law to get the stuff you want.

Tabs are already $30, so how is this going to change anything? It's all the other BS they tack on that needs dealt with...

FYI, just checked the cost estimate for one of my vehicles... it was $90 $107 last year, will be $150 this year, so 66% 29% increase. My vehicle is 14 years old, though, so not getting hit by ST3 as bad as some.

Edit: wife corrected my memory...

Well said BCM.

The tabs for my newish, not-shitty car went from $90 to $330.  Ostensibly for a lightrail system that won't even go near where I live or work.

Look at the itimized list of charges. The "Registration" fee is $30. This is fact. Adding another new law putting this same tax at $30 again will change nothing. The weight, filing, service, "benefit district", and RTA taxes are somewhat separate... they simply are collected at the same time as the registration tax. Want lower cost tabs? Get rid of the RTA. And the liberals in local and state gov... but that's a given to most on here.

Edit for spelling and grammar...

100% wrong. You didn't even have to read the petition for yourself, the goals are pointed out right on the linked website on the homepage:

"Barnacles have grown on our $30 tabs and it's time to scrape 'em off. That's what our new initiative does:
It gets rid of vehicle weight fees imposed by state government
It gets rid of vehicle fees imposed by cities (transportation benefit districts or TBDs)
And the biggie: It gets rid of all car tab taxes imposed by Sound Transit."

For the vets, if you are 100% VA..you can register one vehicle per year with a DV plate free of charge..the registration lasts as long as you own the vehicle.

Poll added

Which is what we need, a quick hit on the reset button. Imposing weight fees on everything now is what really got me.

9 poll responses and 4 of them are no I'm too lazy. This is why we can't have nice things.

Put an ad on craigslist and offer to pay people to collect signatures and it'll pass with flying colors


Fight fire with fire

Thanks BCM!

Isn’t this what they said in 2000 when the original $30 car tab law went into effect? For some reason, I do not have a lot of trust in the system here, especially when it comes to taxes.