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Posted: 4/10/2006 7:56:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 8:23:30 AM EDT by Da_Bunny]
I want explain to him that my ancestors killed 3/4ths of the Indians, requisitioned 1/3 of Mexico at gunpoint and imported tens of thousands of Negros as slaves.

The last I heard, some people were massively upset about all that. They want to exterminate white people, impose their religion and reconquer Mexico's lost territory.

The latest I heard was, they are trying to tear down our flags, steal our property or terrorize our cities.

That is why I want assault weapons. There are shitloads of them rioting demonstrating in the streets today.

Kill somebody? Yup, but only to defend myself or friends, family, home or way of life (private property).
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:02:11 AM EDT
I am Irish/German American. I think the WORLD owes me reparations!!!!
Any wonder why "America" is going down the tubes?
A once great country is overun with complete and utter PC bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:30:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 8:30:37 AM EDT by erikd65]

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
I want explain to him that my ancestors killed 3/4ths of the Indians, requisitioned 1/3 of Mexico at gunpoint and imported tens of thousands of Negros as slaves.

The last I heard, some people were massively upset about all that. They want to exterminate white people, impose their religion and reconquer Mexico's lost territory.

The latest I heard was, they are trying to tear down our flags, steal our property or terrorize our cities.

That is why I want assault weapons. There are shitloads of them rioting demonstrating in the streets today.

Kill somebody? Yup, but only to defend myself or friends, family, home or way of life (private property).




F***ing A Bro! I am with you 100%!

E
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:35:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 8:36:41 AM EDT by 2whiskeyP]
I had a big reply all typed up and figured I could sum it up in two words.....

Molan Labe

Anything more than that is just filler.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:48:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:11:25 AM EDT
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:27:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.



Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:56:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.



Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:10:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.




Look its R-32!!!!

Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:13:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.




Look its R-32!!!!

www.gadflyonline.com/11-26-01/invasion3.jpg



He's COMIN RIGHT FOR US!!!
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:58:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.



Well, good, since YOU'RE willing to pick up the bill, I'll send them your way.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 12:40:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 12:42:17 PM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.



Well, good, since YOU'RE willing to pick up the bill, I'll send them your way.



I said WE...


BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...

Seems there were only white high school aged kids working, it is really sad, I spoke to them in plain English, and they still did not understand that I did not want Catsup on my burger.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:30:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 3:32:10 PM EDT by 1GunnerHogan1]

Originally Posted By R-32:

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:

Originally Posted By R-32:
So much hate here today....

You all should learn to love eachother for the gifts each and everyone has to give. Embrace our brothers and sisters from around the world, and do whatever we can for them....That we all may live in a better, more equal, peacefull, and loving world.



Well, good, since YOU'RE willing to pick up the bill, I'll send them your way.



I said WE...


BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...

Seems there were only white high school aged kids working, it is really sad, I spoke to them in plain English, and they still did not understand that I did not want Catsup on my burger.




Sigh.....
Left Wing Berkeley and drivel
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:37:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:

BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...




What did you expect. I mean it is McDonalds. They don't do have it your way worth a damn. Try ordering a hamburger plain with no bun for the dog sometime. Takes a manager to handle it every friggin' time.

"Ahhh, we can't sell just a hamburger patty."
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:42:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

Originally Posted By R-32:

BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...




What did you expect. I mean it is McDonalds. They don't do have it your way worth a damn. Try ordering a hamburger plain with no bun for the dog sometime. Takes a manager to handle it every friggin' time.

"Ahhh, we can't sell just a hamburger patty."



Im sorry to hear of your ill's, but I guess you dont get my point...

You see today is the day that our Brothers and Sisters from the southern regions of the American continent decided to leave work in protest to the way our oppressive government ( and most of you all) has treated them in the past...It is a protest to show just how disabled we are without their services...

I could not even get a burger without catsup.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:44:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 3:46:15 PM EDT by migradog]
Yo quero mi hambergasa sin salsa tomate.

Es no problemo senior!!


I want reparation for the family members I had who were indentured servants!!
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:56:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By R-32:
Im sorry to hear of your ill's, but I guess you dont get my point...
You see today is the day that our Brothers and Sisters from the southern regions of the American continent decided to leave work in protest to the way our oppressive government ( and most of you all) has treated them in the past...It is a protest to show just how disabled we are without their services...



WTF?? They ain't MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS...They are FUCKING ILLEGAL ALIENS....
Get the word ILLEGAL? as in unlawful...breaking the law...criminal act? Round em up throw em back and build a 50 foot wall with machine gun posts every 50 yards for the entire border with orders to SHOOT.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 3:57:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

Originally Posted By R-32:

BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...




What did you expect. I mean it is McDonalds. They don't do have it your way worth a damn. Try ordering a hamburger plain with no bun for the dog sometime. Takes a manager to handle it every friggin' time.

"Ahhh, we can't sell just a hamburger patty."



Im sorry to hear of your ill's, but I guess you dont get my point...

You see today is the day that our Brothers and Sisters from the southern regions of the American continent decided to leave work in protest to the way our oppressive government ( and most of you all) has treated them in the past...It is a protest to show just how disabled we are without their services...

I could not even get a burger without catsup.



I got the point. You missed mine. What difference does their lack of presence make on anything? You got the same standard shitty service at McDonalds that you always get. Who's says the economy can't spare them?
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:19:49 PM EDT


We need to deport them and build a concrete wall along the whole southern border. I grew up in Los Angeles so I know what we have in store for us if things dont change.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:20:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 4:23:06 PM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

I got the point. You missed mine. What difference does their lack of presence make on anything? You got the same standard shitty service at McDonalds that you always get. Who's says the economy can't spare them?



Well around here if you buy local milk, our undocumented brothers and sisters are the ones that work the dairy plant that loads and ship's the milk, They work the local fastfood joints, and out of 7 of the nicer resturants in our area, 3 of them are family type Mexican resturants. of the remaining the hispanic's are the cooks,dishwashers, and busboys. Our business park is filled with huge companies like Canyon Creek cabinent company, Nyman Boatlifts, Northwest Raceing... Stockpot Soups, several cold storage places for fish products.. The machine shops that back up Boeing,All would be down the tubes without the hispanic's that work there....Im a Vol Firefighter in this town, and for over 10 years I could not even begin to tell you how many undocumented workers I have had to transport to the local hospital (also hires a large amount of hispanic workers in the laundry and housekeeping) Without these people our towns would die.

And dont pull any of that " You could call I.N.S./ICE/CBP"...They tell us they have no interest everytime.

So I guess it is not a problem, And as long as it is not a problem, I suggest that we all get over it, and start helping them.


Honestly now, Just think how much happier and what a better place this country will be, when we all stop this silly bickering.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:27:29 PM EDT
Not to hijack Bunny's thread. Oh wait, we already did.

I think it interesting how the US doesn't seem to have such a problem with illegals from any country except Mexico. I have several friends that are natives of other countries. To a person they all say that when the have the least little problem with their visas the immigration people are on them like flys on shit. Yet we have millions of illegal aliens from just south of the border. And little seems to be done to gather them up. Where's the La Migra presence at these protests? Seems like a fine way to round up the illegals. It should be very hard for them to get work since your supposed to prove your immigrations status before being hired. Yet, I just read over the weekend something like 75% in the Arkansas chicken processing industry are illegals. But I read no mention of on-going raids or fines to the employers. Congress is sitting on their hands right now to avoid having the public wring them during an election. "Oh fuck, oh fuck, do we piss off the american voters and do nothing or do something and piss off all the illegal voters? Oh worra, worra, worra, what are we to do."

It seems incomprehensible that we're still escorting commerical aircraft with fighters because some arab looking dude dis'ed a stewie. But the MSM can just stroll down to the border anytime, day or night and photograph illegals going back and forth like they're on the expressway. Where's the Homeland Security response to this? Screw airport security. The next attack is going to be inflitrated over the mexican border. Too bad our politicians aren't as worried about our country, our economy and our people as they are a bunch of criminal infiltrators and how best not to hurt their feelings.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:27:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
Honestly now, Just think how much happier and what a better place this country will be, when we all stop this silly bickering.



with all the love 7.62x51 can give.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:32:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By R-32:
Honestly now, Just think how much happier and what a better place this country will be, when we all stop this silly bickering.



with all the love 7.62x51 can give.



Thank you,

I knew someone was paying atttention.

I feel much better now.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:34:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

I got the point. You missed mine. What difference does their lack of presence make on anything? You got the same standard shitty service at McDonalds that you always get. Who's says the economy can't spare them?



Well around here if you buy local milk, our undocumented brothers and sisters are the ones that work the dairy plant that loads and ship's the milk, They work the local fastfood joints, and out of 7 of the nicer resturants in our area, 3 of them are family type Mexican resturants. of the remaining the hispanic's are the cooks,dishwashers, and busboys. Our business park is filled with huge companies like Canyon Creek cabinent company, Nyman Boatlifts, Northwest Raceing... Stockpot Soups, several cold storage places for fish products.. The machine shops that back up Boeing,All would be down the tubes without the hispanic's that work there....Im a Vol Firefighter in this town, and for over 10 years I could not even begin to tell you how many undocumented workers I have had to transport to the local hospital (also hires a large amount of hispanic workers in the laundry and housekeeping) Without these people our towns would die.

And dont pull any of that " You could call I.N.S./ICE/CBP"...They tell us they have no interest everytime.

So I guess it is not a problem, And as long as it is not a problem, I suggest that we all get over it, and start helping them.


Honestly now, Just think how much happier and what a better place this country will be, when we all stop this silly bickering.



You play the devils advocate much better than me. How much does one of those runs for an illegal cost the local taxpayer BTW?
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:42:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 4:44:06 PM EDT by Da_Bunny]
North America, South Africa and Australia were Imperial Europe's unemployment/welfare plan, like Mexico is doing today. If you couldn't pay taxes, get the fuck out. Forget collecting a damn thing.

When the boat left Europe, there was no going back for most of our ancestors.

When the boat docked, it wasn't much better.

You could head for the frontier or work at poverty level in one of the industries, but there was no going back until you made your fortune.

You do what you have to do.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:45:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 4:48:22 PM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

How much does one of those runs for an illegal cost the local taxpayer BTW?



Basic run from the scene of the crime accident to the door of an emergency room is at least $375.00 and just goes up from there.

The talk in our neck of the woods today was the work slowdowns, and everyone getting rides to Seattle, and to Skagit County for the march.

Im more upset that those of us that work are also not doing the same thing in protest to our Gov's disreguard of National Security, and the wellbeing of this nation. I have seen many poll's and honestly it does seem to be a pretty even split on what the public wants done about the situation.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 4:52:13 PM EDT
I am so sick of all this bullshit about these people picking our fucking fruit for us, it is completely irrelevant, they are here illegally, you can come into our country when we say you can, but this sneeking in has got to end.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 5:29:25 PM EDT
Each one of the national propagenda agencies quoted the same line from different criminal protesters.


Sleeping giant
that is to say with 12 million people there is little the state can say or do about 12 million illiegal or not.
So what is really being said the law does not matter when the force is massive, so are you kids learning anything yet ?

The law does not mean shit to the government, it all comes down to force.

Figured it out yet ?

The law and the force is what the largest active group says it is.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 6:44:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 6:45:03 PM EDT by XD_Fan]
Strat, that is exactly the thought I had on the way home while thinking about this. Its a done deal. We no longer have a government that is willing to deal with the hard issues. And the prospect of having to fight 12 million people suddenly made hunted criminals is not something the averager American is willing to live with. These people aren't just going to pack up and go away. Not to mention the increased prices this will mean for Mr. and Mrs. Soccer Mom if they do get booted. Of course maybe our elected officials could grow a set and do some welfare reform at the same time and push some of the real deadbeats into the job market when the difference is starving or picking fruit.

Naw, not gonna happen. The Democrats would lose the voter base. After all once you realize you don't need the government to live you start thinking about making it smaller.

R-32, I owe you for making me think the hard thoughts. Fuck, what a mess.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 7:46:22 PM EDT
I have to chime in with R-32 and XD Fan on this one. Both political parties have a lot of capitol tied up in this and would both lose by getting rid of illegals. Ma & Pa America haven't the stomach for massive enforcement or the wallets for the price increases that domestic labor would demand for the jobs the illegals do.

Do we need locked down borders? Yes. Will those in power forfeit votes or a place at the corporate teat to accomplish this? NO!
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:06:04 PM EDT
Do those in power need to be booted? You bet! Big pieces of steaming poo that need to live in the private sector again. Ted Kennedy was yelling away today about this country being made out of immagrants, nothing about the ones that took the time and effort to come here legally. I welcome them with open arms. I even understand them wanting to help their family members into a country that has something to offer, but they can do it the way the rest of the other nationalities have to. Illegals can GO HOME!
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:17:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By huge_gator:
I have to chime in with R-32 and XD Fan on this one. Both political parties have a lot of capitol tied up in this and would both lose by getting rid of illegals. Ma & Pa America haven't the stomach for massive enforcement or the wallets for the price increases that domestic labor would demand for the jobs the illegals do.

Do we need locked down borders? Yes. Will those in power forfeit votes or a place at the corporate teat to accomplish this? NO!



I think this is going to be the biggest huggie-handholding fest between the Republicans and the Democrats since the couple months following the 9-11 terror attacks. The Republicans cant afford to lose the vote, and the Democrats will not want to compromise the high number of votes they already get from the demographic. I think we are going to have to just put up with the increase numbers of Illegal Mexicans and OTM's that are now crossing over because they know amnisty is in the future.

We need to double fence up, with air and ground patrols along with towers every 300 yds at the least before Im going to be happy with what is going down.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 8:56:06 PM EDT
I got no problem with letting our boarder patrol use those sidearms for their intended purpose.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 8:12:04 AM EDT
I happen to like ketchup on my burgers, so I'm all good.....
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 10:58:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rune75:
I got no problem with letting our boarder patrol use those sidearms for their intended purpose.



They do
I have a good friend with the Border Patrol, BTW he hispanic desent and they really piss him off. Their always telling him hes one of them. They regulary go out and catch car loads of them. Detain them, haul their ass's back and then watch them come back faster than they can file the reports. Yes the have captured lots and lots of drus, they have captured weapons being smuggled in. And yes he says he knows terrist have come in or other things we dont want here. How does he know their will be a tip of a load of illegals comming accross so when they put their resources to capture them it leaves other areas wide open. Why else would they get tips???
He also has had to disarm Mexican Military men (they were lost on manuvers) he said that would be fine except they all had maps and GPS units????? On another instance they were told by higher ups they were drug runners with stolen Mexican uniforms and wapons, OK then why were they all in new uniforms and they had military presciscion in their moves. But the big give away was the 2 HUMVEES they had with a 50 mounted on each. After talking with him he says we need 100% crack down AND a complete fence along the border. Hes getting real scared down there now as they are bolder and bolder knowing we wont do anything about. I garee build a fence and BTW where the fuck is Homeland Secuity??????????????????
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:33:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 11:34:59 AM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By mstennes:

BTW where the fuck is Homeland Secuity??????????????????



Well thier #2 has been busy jacking his dick to what he thought was a 14 year old girl on the internet.....

Im not the guy that says overthrow the Govt, or Kill all the cops blah blah, and Im not going to start that shit here.

BUT,

Our Govt has lost its collective mind, and it is going to take some very drastic actions to get it back in check. Republicans,Democrats...Makes no difference anymore.

Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:33:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 11:35:04 AM EDT by mordecai]

Originally Posted By R-32:
BTW: I went to McDonalds today, and my order was all messed up...
I spoke to them in plain English, and they still did not understand that I did not want Catsup on my burger.



Damn - that's just unAmerican. You gotta put the stuff on your Freedom Fries!!!
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:38:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 11:41:25 AM EDT by R-32]

Originally Posted By mordecai:

Damn - that's just unAmerican. You gotta put the stuff on your Freedom Fries!!!



Catsup is a tool of the devil, I dont want to support an industrie that hires so many illegals to pick all of those tomatos.

If you have to put anything on your fries, Well.....when was the last time you saw an illegal picking Tartar sauce?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 11:47:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 11:51:32 AM EDT by mordecai]

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
The latest I heard was, they are trying to tear down our flags, steal our property or terrorize our cities.

That is why I want assault weapons. There are shitloads of them rioting demonstrating in the streets today.



Hmm.. <Devil's Advocate Hat On> Wonder if that's how the Indians felt 300 years ago? <Hat Off>

And if so, will we be just as "defeated"? This sort of "cultural invasion" happens around the globe throughout history. You either actively resist (win or lose), assimilate or martyrdome. Just make sure you don't engage one while turning your back on another - you may not be there to fill the vacuum.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 1:25:37 PM EDT


Originally Posted By mstennes:

BTW where the fuck is Homeland Secuity??????????????????



They're on the line ready to kick ass and take names.
It's the jack-off's running Homeland Security that have their collective heads up their collective butts.


They have put forth rules that make it a huge problem to apprehend illegals.
Say you catch Pedro sneaking though with an altered ID.
Wanna pat him down? Nope, you need a supervisor's permission.
Wanna cuff him, Nope, you need a supervisor's permission.
Wanna put him in the cell. Nope, need a port director's permission and you have to call his family to let them know what's going on, if he's there more than 2 hours. He will also have to be fed and checked on every 15 minutes.
Can a smuggler's car be seized? Usually not.
Do alien smugglers go to jail? Nope, in 10 years I only saw one arrested.
What happens if an alien attack's an officer. Nothing.

Do our Border Officer's have training in detecting Aliens, Drugs and WMDs? Nope
What training have the officers recieved in the last three years?
Muslum sensitiviy training
Minority sensitiviy training
Professionalism Training ( Be nice and say welcome to the tourists)
30 pages of possible duty offenses and punishments.

I could go on, but it's already been a bad day.
I've believe in 20 years the Mexican border will be a little north of San Francisco.
More schools will teach English as a 2nd language than will teach it as a 1st.
We live in a time where people living illegally in our country can make demands of it and be called patriots. But the Minutemen who chose to guard or borders are racists.

God bless us, cause the government ain't gonna help.



Link Posted: 4/11/2006 1:40:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 1:42:00 PM EDT by Da_Bunny]

Originally Posted By mordecai:
Hmm.. <Devil's Advocate Hat On> Wonder if that's how the Indians felt 300 years ago? <Hat Off>



Well DUH!

Look what happened to them.

Enjoy the driveby shooting.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 1:42:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By migradog:
God bless us, cause the government ain't gonna help.



What have we been saying for the last twenty years ?


There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!




A BP K9 unit got hurt 2 miles out on foot and his radio batteries went dead, command refused to acknowledge they had a man missing or investigate, the AMM people saw him back to his vehicle but incidents like that make my blood boil because they do not even care for their agents as they should.

People should be foaming at the mouth enraged and at the reps doorsteps DEMANDING remedy !
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