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Posted: 2/12/2006 6:48:55 PM EDT
Portland Cop Sues Glock/Federal Cartridge.

Anyone hear about this one when it went down?


Let's start a Glock flame thread. J/K
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:02:49 PM EDT
damn glocks
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:11:23 PM EDT
I saw the articles about the lawsuit starting a few days ago, and I remember reading when the Portland PD switched from the 45 calibers 21s to the 9mms.

It's interesting that both Glock, Federal, and Alliant have all been named in the lawsuit. That seems to say we don't know where to place the blame for the kaboom so lets throw a handful of poop at the wall and see who it sticks to.

More information about it can be found here.

www.thegunzone.com/glock/ppb.html

Glock Press Release on the kaboom when it happened.
www.gssfonline.com/hot_topics/pressrelease.htm
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:28:05 PM EDT
The NY City suit looks as if it is going to get flushed due to the new manufacturer protection law. I expect this to get the same treatment. Time will tell. Wow, a glock blowing up. Imagine that.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:32:16 PM EDT

The Police Bureau replaced them with 9mm Glocks


Everybody knows that 9mm won't hurt anybody.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 7:57:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
The NY City suit looks as if it is going to get flushed due to the new manufacturer protection law. I expect this to get the same treatment. Time will tell. Wow, a glock blowing up. Imagine that.




The lawsuit from the Portland LEO will procede because it falls under this clause in Public Law 109-92



(a) In General.--A qualified civil liability action may not be
brought in any Federal or State court.

(5) Qualified civil liability action.--
...shall not include--

v) an action for death, physical injuries or
property damage resulting directly from a defect
in design or manufacture of the product, when used
as intended or in a reasonably foreseeable manner,
except that where the discharge of the product was
caused by a volitional act that constituted a
criminal offense, then such act shall be
considered the sole proximate cause of any
resulting death, personal injuries or property
damage; or



To blame Glock they will say that the Glock is defective because it kaboomed when used as intended thus there must be a defect. Of course they've also named the ammuntion makers in the lawsuit which says to me they haven't even looked to see where the defect really is.

NYs lawsuit should be covered under the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act but the last I knew a Federal Judge denied the motion, under a narrow exception that allows lawsuits against the gun makers if their sales or marketing practices violate state or federal statutes in the case NYs nuisance law, while rejecting the city's argument that the law was unconstitutional, to dismiss after passage even though Sen. Larry Craig and Rep. Cliff Sterns, sponsors of the bill, both referenced the city's case as a quintessential example of a lawsuit the act would prevent. The trial was postponed to allow for appeal.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:38:05 PM EDT
G21 and mags for sale... cheap!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 12:04:26 PM EDT
I have a copy of the HP White report on their examination of the two G21 kB! from PPB. HP White says that the kB!s were caused by overpressure ammo, most likely a double charge. They also looked at the ammo and determined that there is room in the case for a double charge.

Once again, it's not the gun, it's the ammo.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 12:11:04 PM EDT
PPB is a sorry excuse for a Law Enforcement agency..

And besides that, Glocks don't handle crappy ammo(or crappy reloads) very well.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 5:50:08 PM EDT
Made from plastic from a people that gave us Hitler.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 7:13:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jonathon:
PPB is a sorry excuse for a Law Enforcement agency..



Details? Example? Reasoning?

I'm curious, 'cause I got a personal interest.
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