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Posted: 2/12/2006 9:16:34 AM EDT

At the convenience store yesterday to buy some smokes.

ME: "Two packs of Camel Lights please"

MINWAGE: "We only haf 'em in soft packs"

ME: "Ok, fine, just one pack then"

MINWAGE: "Can I see your ID?"

ME: "Sure" I hold out my wallet showing my ID she looks at it and turns a grabs a notepad. I put my wallet back in my pocket

MINWAGE: "Hode on, I need to write down your Drivers license number"

ME: "I'm sorry, you need to do what?"

MINWAGE: "I need to write down your Drivers License number"

ME: "I'm not going to let you write down my Drivers License number"

MINWAGE: "Well I can't sell you these cigarettes" With an air of royalty she snatches the smokes off the counter and puts them away

ME: "My driver's license number is none of YOUR business"

MINWAGE: "Well, we got busted by tha po-leese too many times and this is what we do now. You gonna haf to buy your smokes somewhere else den"

ME: "Too Easy" I leave. Guy down the street didn't even ask for my ID let alone write it down.

Now, Sure, perhaps my tinfoil is on a bit too tight. There isn't much they can do with a DL # but I figured it was not something I wanted MINWAGE sitting there with, er WIF.

Posted: 2/12/2006 9:18:09 AM EDT

[#1]

Smart move.

Posted: 2/12/2006 9:44:55 AM EDT

[#2]

I never have to give out my DL when I buy smokes...........

Posted: 2/12/2006 9:55:28 AM EDT

[#3]

Maybe you should be listening to STRAT instead of mocking him...

Wont be long, you too will be throwing out quotes, and wearing Gortex MOPP gear.

Posted: 2/12/2006 9:59:03 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I never have to give out my DL when I buy smokes...........

Yeah but, you don't smoke.

Posted: 2/12/2006 10:05:28 AM EDT

[#5]

Too paranoid,

She would have accepted your CC # instead if the DL makes you uncomfortable.

Posted: 2/12/2006 10:15:04 AM EDT

[#6]

Piss on 'em!

Another pet peeve, closely related, is stores like walmart, who ask to see a DL when using a credit card or writing a check. I don't get it, and I don't approve. They make it clear that they don't trust me, yet it's assumed that I should/must trust anyone who works there, with all of my detailed private information.

Bullshit!

Posted: 2/12/2006 10:26:16 AM EDT

[#7]

Me: "Well, then, I'll need YOU to write YOUR Driver's License Number for ME because I'm keeping track of who has MY number..."

Them:

Posted: 2/12/2006 12:13:04 PM EDT

[#8]

Screw them!!

Posted: 2/12/2006 12:42:54 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

You sir, are a racist.

Posted: 2/12/2006 12:45:12 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Piss on 'em!

Another pet peeve, closely related, is stores like walmart, who ask to see a DL when using a credit card or writing a check. I don't get it, and I don't approve. They make it clear that they don't trust me, yet it's assumed that I should/must trust anyone who works there, with all of my detailed private information.

Bullshit!

Do I need to show my DL or give my plate number to stay at your establishment?

Posted: 2/12/2006 12:48:37 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Quoted:

You sir, are a racist.

I certainly hope you are not serious.

Posted: 2/12/2006 1:07:59 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Piss on 'em!

Another pet peeve, closely related, is stores like walmart, who ask to see a DL when using a credit card or writing a check. I don't get it, and I don't approve. They make it clear that they don't trust me, yet it's assumed that I should/must trust anyone who works there, with all of my detailed private information.

Bullshit!

Do I need to show my DL or give my plate number to stay at your establishment?

No. Not with a credit card.

I've rented just over 100,000 room nights in the past seven years. 93% of all sales are paid for with a credit card. Number of bad credit cards to date? Zero.

Granted our clientele's demographic is a bit different than walmarts, I still use a similar CC/EDT transfer system to what they do, which is a pretty solid system. Checking signatures would be moot for my business.

I do require a DL for cash and check sales. 99% of theft and damage comes from those who pay with cash, and checks aren't common enough for me to invest in one of the instant fund verification systems like walmart and other retail stores have.

License plate and auto info recording is still used at some hotels, but it's a dieing trend. We've never done it, and it really doesn't do much good except in very rare circumstances. Many hotels do it more out of old school habit than anything else. There's a pretty narrow scope of 'what ifs' that would make that information useful to me.

Posted: 2/12/2006 2:33:38 PM EDT

[#13]

when i show my .mil identification i get store clerks on trips that tell me that they can't sell me anything without my drivers license...

i always take it to the next level and ask for a manager.

once, the manager acted like a dick... i simply told them i understood their policy is their policy.

they acted like i was gonna pop a cork, i simply told them i would go ahead and put everything back.

then the manager looked around conspiratorily and told me they would sell it to me anyway.

i told them i wouldn't want them to get in trouble, and that i wouldn't visit their establishment again.

then i put everything back.

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:12:14 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:

You sir, are a racist.

Yeah, I hate it when people type with an accent...

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:13:29 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

<snip>They make it clear that they don't trust me<snip>

<snip>I do require a DL for cash and check sales.<snip>

I do believe our friend here was paying with cash also. It's almost like you don't trust your cash paying customers.

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:32:07 PM EDT

[#16]

On the checking id thing for a CC. I do sometimes ask for id when I recieve a CC at the breeze. This is for one of 2 reasons. #1 you did not sign the back of your card and it quite plainly states "NOT VALID WITHOUT SIGNATURE" look close. it is there. #2 if the person has put See ID or C.I.D. or some other nonsensical thing on the back. Why do I do this? Because if the user of the card calls up and says that their kid used the card and it was not signed by them then we get a charge back. It happens all the fucking time.

So when we ask for your ID please pull the stick out of your ass. It is not that we dont trust you. We cannot afford to trust anyone.

P.S. we dont give a good goddamn what your address is and we wont remember when you walk away from our place of business. We just want to keep YOUR money safe by making sure that it is YOU that is using it.

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:37:46 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

then i put everything back.

That was a nice thing to do. I would have left it right there and tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine for wasting my time.

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:54:29 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
On the checking id thing for a CC. I do sometimes ask for id when I recieve a CC at the breeze. This is for one of 2 reasons. #1 you did not sign the back of your card and it quite plainly states "NOT VALID WITHOUT SIGNATURE" look close. it is there. #2 if the person has put See ID or C.I.D. or some other nonsensical thing on the back. Why do I do this? Because if the user of the card calls up and says that their kid used the card and it was not signed by them then we get a charge back. It happens all the fucking time.

So when we ask for your ID please pull the stick out of your ass. It is not that we dont trust you. We cannot afford to trust anyone.

P.S. we dont give a good goddamn what your address is and we wont remember when you walk away from our place of business. We just want to keep YOUR money safe by making sure that it is YOU that is using it.

Working in the food industry as long as I did, I would have to agree 100%! If you paid by cash or debit card, I could care less. But the minute you want me to swipe a CC or acept a check from you...You better be prepared to show me your ID. I could care less what you weigh, or how old you are....Just wanna make sure the names match up!

Posted: 2/12/2006 5:57:08 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Quoted:

<snip>They make it clear that they don't trust me<snip>

<snip>I do require a DL for cash and check sales.<snip>

I do believe our friend here was paying with cash also. It's almost like you don't trust your cash paying customers.

Not really. Hate to say it, but cash/local home address/parking around the corner instead of where we can see your car, means I'm very probably going to need to dial up R-32, and ask him to send someone down for one reason or another before or after check out time. The CC paying customers, from out of town, who care more about where to eat than our policy on beer in the swimming pool, are much more trustworthy..... statisticly speaking of course.

Call it profiling, call it predjudice, call it class warfare, call it common sense... At the end of the day, walmart likely knows their business too, as does the cig pusher at the corner market where PCR doesn't shop anymore. But I don't have to like the assumption of trust and mistrust when I fork over my ID, to prove almost nothing to a clerk. Neither do my customers.... fair is fair enough.

(notice I still shop at walmart... while reserving the right to bitch about it

)

Posted: 2/12/2006 6:00:29 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
<SNIP>

Just what is the policy about alcoholic beverages in the swimming pool?

Posted: 2/12/2006 6:02:22 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Quoted:
<SNIP>

Just what is the policy about alcoholic beverages in the swimming pool?

Out of sight, out of mind.... just like my policy on everything else!

Posted: 2/12/2006 7:15:04 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
(notice I still shop at walmart... while reserving the right to bitch about it )

Nice save.

Posted: 2/13/2006 3:37:20 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
when i show my .mil identification i get store clerks on trips that tell me that they can't sell me anything without my drivers license...

i always take it to the next level and ask for a manager.

once, the manager acted like a dick... i simply told them i understood their policy is their policy.

they acted like i was gonna pop a cork, i simply told them i would go ahead and put everything back.

then the manager looked around conspiratorily and told me they would sell it to me anyway.

i told them i wouldn't want them to get in trouble, and that i wouldn't visit their establishment again.

then i put everything back.

You're nicer than me. When that's happened, I just say ok and walk out.

Posted: 2/13/2006 5:48:49 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
On the checking id thing for a CC. I do sometimes ask for id when I recieve a CC at the breeze. This is for one of 2 reasons. #1 you did not sign the back of your card and it quite plainly states "NOT VALID WITHOUT SIGNATURE" look close. it is there. #2 if the person has put See ID or C.I.D. or some other nonsensical thing on the back. Why do I do this? Because if the user of the card calls up and says that their kid used the card and it was not signed by them then we get a charge back. It happens all the fucking time.

So when we ask for your ID please pull the stick out of your ass. It is not that we dont trust you. We cannot afford to trust anyone.

P.S. we dont give a good goddamn what your address is and we wont remember when you walk away from our place of business. We just want to keep YOUR money safe by making sure that it is YOU that is using it.

This is very different from WRITING DOWN MY DAMNED DL # to Buy smokes.

Posted: 2/13/2006 9:43:38 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
This is very different from WRITING DOWN MY DAMNED DL # to Buy smokes.

Hey yo, we got busted by the popo

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