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Posted: 2/7/2006 1:45:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:50:36 PM EDT
Good...

Too bad they never hung him.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:52:09 PM EDT
Justice delayed is justice denied, once convicted the sun should not set before the order is carried out.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 1:59:40 PM EDT
Good
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:06:39 PM EDT
So what if his head might have popped off. He'd still have been dead. Too bad it wasn't a long painful death. I'm sure WA.gov made sure he got all the pain meds he wanted.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 2:15:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
So what if his head might have popped off. He'd still have been dead. Too bad it wasn't a long painful death. I'm sure WA.gov made sure he got all the pain meds he wanted.



Right, he'd still be dead but not by hanging. If they wanted him to be dead by decapitation then theyd have to do it by others means.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 3:18:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AssaultPossum:

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
So what if his head might have popped off. He'd still have been dead. Too bad it wasn't a long painful death. I'm sure WA.gov made sure he got all the pain meds he wanted.



Right, he'd still be dead but not by hanging. If they wanted him to be dead by decapitation then theyd have to do it by others means.



Merely a side effect. The sudden stop would still have been the cause of death. Never heard the argument, "but I might catch on fire", with appeals of the electric chair.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:46:59 PM EDT
Good riddance to the POS. I couldn't believe the liberal federal judge bought off on that lame assed argument. He was eating a large ammount of ice cream during that time to bulk up to enhance his argument. I hope he died a slow painful death.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 4:57:36 PM EDT
This almost reeks of New Jersey Death Row justice. At least WA has executed a few scumbags in the post-Furman era. Back in NJ, the only ones to have died since the death penalty was resumed in 1977 have been from natural causes.

Too fat to execute? Why didn't they just reduce his caloric intake until he slimmed down a bit? I guess that would have been too logical and not nurturing enough. Fucking libtards.

At least that's one less mouth to feed off of my tax dollars.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 6:12:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:

Originally Posted By AssaultPossum:

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
So what if his head might have popped off. He'd still have been dead. Too bad it wasn't a long painful death. I'm sure WA.gov made sure he got all the pain meds he wanted.



Right, he'd still be dead but not by hanging. If they wanted him to be dead by decapitation then theyd have to do it by others means.



Merely a side effect. The sudden stop would still have been the cause of death. Never heard the argument, "but I might catch on fire", with appeals of the electric chair.



You have to 'think' like a lawyer to understand it.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 8:58:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2006 9:02:23 PM EDT by RS_Coyote]

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:
Justice delayed is justice denied, once convicted the sun should not set before the order is carried out.



I kinda like that.

How about we hang every one that is in for life? I'm thinking / hoping it would free up some tax dollars.

ETA: I know to some this may sound harsh. But if I were to get a life sentence I would hope they would just hang me. That's just my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 9:29:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:03:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Stokes:

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:
Justice delayed is justice denied, once convicted the sun should not set before the order is carried out.



I'd agree with this if I believed that the jury pool was competent. If they had an understanding of jury nullification and the law, I'd be much more content with the power of the jury. The average Sally Soccermom that gets on a jury now days could be swayed by a fancy lawyer to hang a jaywalker and let a horse thieving pedophile go free.



America does not have a justice system right now, it does not have a educated populace, even if we know what to do as in educating the populace we do not have the means to educate the populace.

The current system has everything to do with money and nothing to do with justice.
www.wealth4freedom.com/money/jail-bond.htm

I can never forget the Cambel case, he tortured raped and murdered the daughter in front of the mother and elder neighbor baby-sitter then did the same to the mother and her neighbor, if cambel had been executed he could have never destroyed three innocent lives, even after the three agrivated murders it took 12 years before they executed him.

They gave life sentence to David R. Hinkson a whistle blower, but let OJ simpson off.

The justice system is broken and there are more violent criminals every day, even a young lady known to a member here tonight was found murdered, the system needs to be fixed immediately.

As long as the system works only for making money for the State the injustice and crime will continue to increase, if we force the courts to return to the rule of law the State in it's present form will collapse.

Now do you see why the founders wanted you to be at all times armed ?



Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:40:15 PM EDT
Why didn't they put him on a diet?
Link Posted: 2/7/2006 11:43:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kooter:
Why didn't they put him on a diet?


If you start working the inside, you will know the answer to that question, and you will either learn not to think about it or go crazy.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 6:42:13 AM EDT
They should have hung him by his balls!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 8:24:47 AM EDT
There actually was a fella hung in WA whose head popped off, 'cause the rope was too long. Quite the show, apparently.

Never understood the cruel and unusual appeals of executions. If the state can kill you, why does it need to light scented candles and hold your hand while it does so? You're still going to wind up, you know, dead.

As for juries, both sides, prosecution and defense, do everything they can to get anyone with a scrap of intelligence eliminated during voir dire. They both want a panel of easily manipulated dipshits who will swallow fancy lawyering. The system is broke, in more ways than I can list here.

The Mongols, when they had to execute an honored person, would sew them up in a bag, and then let their ponies trample the bag until it was flat. They took that approach because they thought it was a great dishonor to spill someone's blood on the ground. Maybe we could take that approach with our BBP's - Big Beautiful Pyschopaths...
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 8:48:11 AM EDT
Its interesting how our society has turned ambivalent toward capital punishment by the state. Even those w/ a death penalty keep the condemned around for what seems like endless appeals. In the end many of those cases are commuted to life w/o parole. OTOH we've coined the term 'death by COP' and are becoming more accepting of concealed carry. In short we seem to have less problem w/ death being doled out at the scene by the victim or police than w/ the state after the fact. I find it interesting and a bit confusing too. Perhaps its a back lash by 'common people' against what they see as gross injustice by the lawyers, pols and judges? Any thoughts?
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:17:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/8/2006 10:19:20 AM EDT by RedDawg6]
It's ironic how the liberal weenies can say that the death penalty doesn't stop crime. It prevents that one offender from committing anther crime after he is released by the liberal judge that the socialist weenies voted for. They created the problem in the first place. Secondly they state that it is too expensive to execute prisoners so they should be incarcarated for life because it is more cost effective. That is another problem that is created by the liberal weenies by demanding appeal after appeal after appeal through their unbending financial support of the ACLU and other like minded legal groups who drive up the cost through their attorney fees. I think there should be a "reasonable" appeal process in all death penalty cases. Capital punishment shouldn't be taken lightly. At the same time when there is clear and obvious evidence that the perpatrator is guilty then give the SOB a fair trial and hang his fucking ass. Case in point: Charles Campbell. It took about 15 years to finally hang that guy. It should have been done in less than 2 years IMO.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 10:52:29 AM EDT
I think both trends - the endless appeals process, and the greater acceptance of self defense shootings and suicide by cop, speak to the same impulse. People, liberals included, want to be sure that the dead guy really had it coming.

Give the guy 21 appeals over 15 years, and it's easier to sleep at night after the state greases him. Likewise, people will accept someone shooting somebody in self defense if it sounds like the shooter had no other choice - 'he came right at me with the knife - it was him or me.'

I'd definitely be in favor of a restricted appeals process. However for that to work, the system has to work flawlessly, and it just doesn't. I know it won't be a popular example to cite on this board, but think of Illinois. DNA testing exonerated enough cons on death row there that the gov eventually abolished the death penalty. Lots of the wrong folks were looking at a ride on Mr. Sparky 'cause of lazy-ass investigation work. That just sucks.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:25:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DirtyBird:
I'd definitely be in favor of a restricted appeals process. However for that to work, the system has to work flawlessly, and it just doesn't. I know it won't be a popular example to cite on this board, but think of Illinois. DNA testing exonerated enough cons on death row there that the gov eventually abolished the death penalty. Lots of the wrong folks were looking at a ride on Mr. Sparky 'cause of lazy-ass investigation work. That just sucks.



I have to agree with you on this. in my previous reply I said: "At the same time when there is clear and obvious evidence that the perpatrator is guilty then give the SOB a fair trial and hang his fucking ass. Case in point: Charles Campbell. It took about 15 years to finally hang that guy. It should have been done in less than 2 years IMO."

The clear and obvious evidence would have to be DNA. I don't think in this day and age people should be executed without DNA evidence. In Campbell's case DNA technology wasn't available at the time but the SOB left enough bloody fingerprints at the crime scene that it was blatantly obvious that he committed the crime. If he did the same crime today, DNA along with fingerprint evidence would be used against him. But then our liberal judges would still coddle the SOB!
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 12:49:01 PM EDT
Yeah, I think the increase in our ability to analyze DNA will really work in everybody's favor. It's a lot harder to keep on pleading NG if'n your DNA is spattered all over the scene, or the victim. By the same token, I think most prosecutors would be reluctant, these days, to pursue the death penalty without some solid physical evidence linking the defendant to the crime. Thanks to DNA, I have every confidence that future findings of guilt or innocence will be a lot more solid than some past cases.

Still, there are plenty of guys awaiting death in cases that have no physical evidence, DNA or otherwise, linking them to the crime. I don't think there's all that many of them in Washington, but head to the south, and the story changes.

Pretty cool stuff happening with DNA. There've been many rapists caught these days, thanks to DNA. Standard practice now is to pull DNA from old cold cases, and input the data into a nationwide database. Newly collected offender DNA is compared to that database. Say rapist A rapes a woman in Seattle in 1995, flees town, and avoids arrest. Cops load a DNA sample in the database in 2000. Rapist A goes down for assault 3 in Florida in 2005. Sometime during his stretch, CO's collect a DNA sample from rapist A, and compare it to the database. They get a hit on the '95 Seattle rape, and they get on the phone. In a day or two, a Seattle detective catches a flight, and interviews rapist A. Justice is served. Might be served cold, but it's still tasty.
Link Posted: 2/8/2006 4:39:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By R-32:
Good...

Too bad they never hung him.



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