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Horseshoe to Elder Run to Middlecreek trail is not a bad hike.
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I forgot to look things up last night.
I'd prefer to defer to others who know the trails better than I do for what will put us at the recommended distance and not destroy us with difficult conditions. Same thing with meeting points... |
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Horseshoe trail from 322 to 501 looks like it would be roughly 3.5ish miles.
There's a parking lot at 322 at Pumping Station Rd and one at 501 at the pretzel hut. I've never hiked it so I have no idea how difficult of a hike it is. |
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I'd like to go this Saturday but I have a prior commitment for much of the day. I'll get in on the next one.
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Horseshoe trail from 322 to 501 looks like it would be roughly 3.5ish miles. There's a parking lot at 322 at Pumping Station Rd and one at 501 at the pretzel hut. I've never hiked it so I have no idea how difficult of a hike it is. View Quote I’ve hiked that section of the horseshoe trail several times. It’s a bit of a climb from either side to the high point (Eagle Rock) at about the center, then a descent. Doing that as an out and back with rucks might be a bit much for some beginners. I’ve hiked from each side to the high point and back with my kids when they were about 8 and 6, but no rucks for them and slower than 3 mph. It’s a nice hike but might be a bit tough to meet the standards for a first hike. If you’re just going from one side to the other, starting at pumping station and finishing at pretzel hut is a gentler climb and steeper descent. You can start at pumping station road and start on the horseshoe trail, then go into the scout camp for an easier hike. I’m not sure the exact trails in there anymore, they’ve changed with the logging that was done recently. |
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A few points:
1) Unless you just really want to make this harder than the marches at Infantry OSUT, right out the gate, we should try doing them on some improved trails/roads that aren't very hilly. 2) Quoted:
I’m in Chester County. I’m interested in getting together. Hiking, shooting or drinking bourbon. I’m a member at NHRPC and can meet up there if anyone is interested. View Quote 3) I have an extra ruck. Its a first gen MOLLE II ruck (one of the early ones with the detachable sleeping bag carrier) in woodland camo. It's complete and serviceable. I also have most of the rifleman set that goes with it. I wasn't planning on selling this stuff on the EE, mostly because shipping the ruck will cost almost as much as anyone would pay for it, but if anyone really needs a ruck or other kit I would be willing to entertain various trades. ETA: I would also be willing to loan it out for a hike, depending. |
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I am down, southern York. You boys pick a date and location, if I am off, I'll show
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I'm in Montgomery Co. I have access to a lot of farm land in Dauphin Co. I'm available most weekends.
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Glad I found this.
Trexler Park has some decent trail with incline, decline and a great view at the top if you can make it! 60lbs of gear should make it a lot more challenging. There are blue berries and raspberries along the trail as well you can pick at. Another trail that’s decent with a great view is the one on the west side of the upper reservoir at green lane. |
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NE Philly suburbs. Have pvs15 Have guns View Quote We definitely need to make this happen. I mapped out a route around Mt. Penn that should put us right around a 6 mile course, with a good chunk of paved road with bike lanes. Need to hike it to confirm, but should be an easier course. Also, have the option of the Blue Marsh area. Lots of trails around there that aren't bad from what I recall. |
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Quoted: I thought I remember seeing you in here, too! @bleaman225 We definitely need to make this happen. I mapped out a route around Mt. Penn that should put us right around a 6 mile course, with a good chunk of paved road with bike lanes. Need to hike it to confirm, but should be an easier course. Also, have the option of the Blue Marsh area. Lots of trails around there that aren't bad from what I recall. View Quote @dim1984 let me know how I can help you organize something. Appalachian trail head by Wind Gap may be a good meeting place. There is also a great couple of hikes in the Jim Thorpe region. Lets make this happen. |
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I have some initiative and motivation, but not enough to drive any further east than NHRPC on a weekend I have overtime. Im probably more motivated than most. When I get home Im going to start a separate thread specific to people close to the river.
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I took some time to scope out two options this evening. Both are quite local to me.
First was a loop around Mount Penn, starting at the Pagoda. Blue line is the proposed loop, measuring right at 6 miles. The red segment is 2.5 miles of paved road with bike lanes (also suitable for pedestrians). The back half of the loop is lightly traveled roads. Seems to be a decent spot for hiking since I saw similar numbers of people walking and cars (like 2 each) while driving it. Pluses: all paved, some great views on Skyline drive (the red portion) and it's basically the perfect length. Negatives: elevation changes and it IS Reading. I've never had any trouble up there, but... Attached File Next option would be hiking a portion of the Schuylkill River trail. As some of you know, it's a massive network of trails that follows the river from Reading to Philly. There are still some gaps, but it includes roughly 75 miles of trails at this point, and there's also some portions that extend as far north as Hamburg and Frackville, although that section appears to be much more fragmented. The tiny bit I walked near the Reading interchanges was pretty well maintained. More info with decent maps: https://schuylkillriver.org/map/ Pros: much easier hiking, large portions are pedestrian and bike only. Many options for meetup points. Cons: going to be an out and back hike unless we pre-stage vehicles. Personally, after doing a 3.5 mile loop at a 16-17 minute pace with a light (approx 15 lb bag), I think the suggestion of keeping to reasonably flat, well maintained trails initally is a good idea. Thoughts? Either way, I plan to head out Saturday morning (2/22) to log some miles and get used to this sort of thing. I realize it's short notice... Then the next two weekends are full, but March 14, 21 and 28 are still open, so I plan to repeat the process on at least one of those dates. |
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I'm up for Saturday morning. View Quote Any preference on the time or route? I'm leaning towards towards a segment of the Thun trail around 8:30, but open to suggestions. I'm headed west to Rosedale's night shoot, so it can't get too late, though Just need one more to make this an official ruck. |
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No preference. They're all new to me. I should be free all day so time's not a factor.
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If you gentlemen are doing the SRT Saturday may I suggest starting at the Brentwood trailhead and going towards Birdsboro? The section closer to the city (RACC, the South End) has several encampments, you'll see the tarps through the trees. There's a few switchbacks where you come around the turn and there's a couple "residents" sitting or standing idly by, just enjoying the air of course.
That's also the section where a bicyclist was jumped by 3 urban "utes" some years ago, they knocked him off the bike and started beating him. One went to the morgue, one survived a trip to the ER, and the third needed new underwear when he stopped running. Just for informational purposes, there was the usual outcry about carrying a weapon on the trail, which was silenced quickly by our DA. There is no law against carrying on the SRT. I ride my bike there all the time, never seen anyone out of place from Brentwood East. That trailhead has a nice well lit paarking area, and a rack of trail maps. Have fun, if I ever get over this cold I'd love to join you! |
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I like snuffy19608's suggestion.
I figured that the guys begging at the 422 ramps probably camped in that area, at least if they didn't have a place like some of the guys working the bridge. I haven't seen them in the past week or two, now that I think about it. Let's plan on 8:30 at the Brentwood trailhead (639 Morgantown Rd, Reading), unless someone needs a bit longer to get there. |
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Let's also get one planned for March.
14/15, 21/22, 28/29 are all open on my end. Anyone have trails near them that they would like to hit? |
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I like snuffy19608's suggestion. I figured that the guys begging at the 422 ramps probably camped in that area, at least if they didn't have a place like some of the guys working the bridge. I haven't seen them in the past week or two, now that I think about it. Let's plan on 8:30 at the Brentwood trailhead (639 Morgantown Rd, Reading), unless someone needs a bit longer to get there. View Quote Okay, I'm going to not fit every millennial stereotype by complaining about the time, the distance, or the weather. I'll be there. Can we carry long guns on these trails? |
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Okay, I'm going to not fit every millennial stereotype by complaining about the time, the distance, or the weather. I'll be there. Can we carry long guns on these trails? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like snuffy19608's suggestion. I figured that the guys begging at the 422 ramps probably camped in that area, at least if they didn't have a place like some of the guys working the bridge. I haven't seen them in the past week or two, now that I think about it. Let's plan on 8:30 at the Brentwood trailhead (639 Morgantown Rd, Reading), unless someone needs a bit longer to get there. Okay, I'm going to not fit every millennial stereotype by complaining about the time, the distance, or the weather. I'll be there. Can we carry long guns on these trails? Never done it, but supposed to be legal. I just don't want to be the only one. |
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What do we need? 30#s of stuff and a rifle? View Quote I'm not actually sure if dry weight means water can't be used as weight, if that's all it's for. Definitely don't count camelbak weight. I fill up my 2qt just to counter balance the weight of my E-tool, and never actually drink out of it. I'm 100% certain that I managed to never drink out of my 2 quart. Ever. 12 Years in, two deployments. |
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I’m down as well. Just post the exact address as I’m not familiar with that location, and what time 08:30am or 8:30pm? Is this happening tomorrow or what?
May help to contact the local pd and just let them be aware there is a military/veteran hike going on in that area so they are not alarmed. |
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I’m down as well. Just post the exact address as I’m not familiar with that location, and what time 08:30am or 8:30pm? Is this happening tomorrow or what? May help to contact the local pd and just let them be aware there is a military/veteran hike going on in that area so they are not alarmed. View Quote |
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Should be cold tomorrow until we get on the move. I’m also assuming this is a paved or dirt/rock trail?
Looks very close to an urban area. Did anyone make plans to notify local pd yet? |
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Should be cold tomorrow until we get on the move. I’m also assuming this is a paved or dirt/rock trail? Looks very close to an urban area. Did anyone make plans to notify local pd yet? View Quote I have not notified any of the local jurisdictions - we'll be crossing several if my geography is correct. |
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I’m down as well. Just post the exact address as I’m not familiar with that location, and what time 08:30am or 8:30pm? Is this happening tomorrow or what? May help to contact the local pd and just let them be aware there is a military/veteran hike going on in that area so they are not alarmed. View Quote |
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You guys have fun tomorrow. I have to work but will catch you next time.
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First event is in the books. It was great meeting you guys and thank you for showing up and making this possible!
Next one is scheduled for March 21. Location TBD, but I'd like to find something in the northern Lancaster county area since that's closer to a couple of you. Attached File Attached File Group was Leprechaun-33-, Brasscrossedrifles, Brandon_, Matt5454, and I |
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First event is in the books. It was great meeting you guys and thank you for showing up and making this possible! Next one is scheduled for March 21. Location TBD, but I'd like to find something in the northern Lancaster county area since that's closer to a couple of you. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/316444/20200222_103134_jpg-1286542.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/316444/Screenshot_20200222-104125_MapMyRun_jpg-1286543.JPG View Quote Attached File |
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I had a great time. I'm sure tomorrow I'll hurt in ways I've never hurt before. I wasn't sure if I'd be able to hold that pace but we all made it.
It was great meeting you guys and I'm glad I made it out! |
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The horseshoe trail about 5 miles from middle creek runs through my parents property. We could shoot (no longrange) there. I live in Berks county now but am down to travel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Horseshoe Trail around Middlecreek is good hiking. I live in Berks county now but am down to travel We definitely realized that flatter trails with good conditions help a lot in meeting baseline pace requirements. |
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What are trail conditions like? We definitely realized that flatter conditions with good conditions helps a lot in meeting baseline pace requirements. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Horseshoe Trail around Middlecreek is good hiking. I live in Berks county now but am down to travel We definitely realized that flatter conditions with good conditions helps a lot in meeting baseline pace requirements. |
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Quoted: Yeah, this. If it's steep and/or rocky it would be extremely difficult to make time. I felt like we were hauling ass this morning. View Quote |
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?? I thought I was the only one thinking that. I am out of shape but that made me feel really out of shape lol. Now I’m motivated. I’m gonna multiple that gps step count by two considering the leads (dlm1984) strides to mine lol. Pretty sure I was taking 2/3 steps to his 1. Def a great work out! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Yeah, this. If it's steep and/or rocky it would be extremely difficult to make time. I felt like we were hauling ass this morning. I expected we were going to lose more time on the return leg and stops to adjust gear than we did. Mile 4 was slow due to the pause at the halfway point, but numbers look good! Attached File Attached File |
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The horseshoe trail may not be a great idea after all.
Did you guys carry rifles? |
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Quoted: Two of us brought them, but neither of us opted to carry them overtly, rather chosing to pack them covertly. It saved me 2 lbs! View Quote I think it was Brandon with a pistol in kydex holster. The other guy with the black back pack and glasses, he was ultra concealed if he did have something. |
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Guess I miscounted rifles!
I thought about carrying my full size M&P 9, but I barely noticed my Shield, so it was the right call. My rifle, which is getting a workout at a night shoot out towards Pittsburgh: Attached File Attached File |
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