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Posted: 4/25/2003 3:03:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2003 6:51:14 PM EDT by Winston_Wolf]
*** BI-NARY TARGETS ***

*** This is on for next Sunday May 04.
***

*** e-mail me for a map ***

... East Valley, near Queen Valley

... Say, caravan out about 8:30 or so.
Link Posted: 4/25/2003 3:16:23 PM EDT
its definetely something to think about, ill have to see if ive got anything else scheduled with the lil lady.
Link Posted: 4/25/2003 7:49:48 PM EDT
God I hate working weekends.
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 3:12:26 AM EDT
Just let me know where to meet!
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 5:05:02 AM EDT
sounds like a possability. Where do you shoot out there? I also shoot out there quite a bit.
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 6:48:38 AM EDT
its 0730, im jumping in the shower real quick, call me 480 205 9681
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 10:32:17 AM EDT
Is there a place on the way, to meet up for breakfast beforehand?
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 12:38:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2003 6:25:24 AM EDT by Winston_Wolf]
... A bunch of folks are IM and e-mailing me asking to postpone until next Sunday - May 04, 2003 instead of tomorrow.

... It would give a little more time to get it in order, get maps out to those that can't caravan and make time for a breakfast run beforehand.

... What do you think?
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 1:54:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... A bunch of folks are IM and e-mailing me asking to postpone until next Sunday instead of tomorrow.

... It would give a little more time to get it in order, get maps out to those that can't caravan and make time for a breakfast run beforehand.

... What do you think?



You think that Charlie would wait till next Sunday?! Hell no! He's gonna be hot on your ass, there's not gonna be anywhere to meet up for breakfast while your busy trying to run from Aks and B40s. Get prepared Suzy and Mary, be ready to go at a moment's notice. It's taken me awhile, but I'm finally there.

I think we should go tomorrow.

I'll bring 35cc's of Vagisil for those who need it.
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 2:45:56 PM EDT
Drip drip
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 4:46:22 PM EDT
Hell, As a seasoned ARFCOM member my answer would be.....
BOTH!
This Sunday sounds good.
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 6:37:06 PM EDT
... See first post
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 7:11:11 PM EDT
I still have like 30-40 tannerite targets left...
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 11:21:45 PM EDT

The poll says tomoorow and the first post says next Sunday. Does that mean BOTH?
Link Posted: 4/26/2003 11:27:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By az-gunner:

The poll says tomoorow and the first post says next Sunday. Does that mean BOTH?




... I wish I could, unfortunately I'm only going next week. I may even go out the night before and camp out, BBQ and drink some beer for the hell of it.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 9:44:53 AM EDT
So this thing is on the 4th? If it is, I may be interested in coming. I'm getting my first AR this week (varminter set-up) and I might need some help breaking it in. Also just learing how to reload ammo, and this may give me some time to make some.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 6:53:08 PM EDT
you think you got it made, getting a job at a gun store on the weekends....
then stuff like this comes up and really pisses you off...
we should definitely use this board to arrange more stuff like this though.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 7:22:25 PM EDT
Sounds like fun. Can you post a map?
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 7:44:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 8:35:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Sounds like fun. Can you post a map?



... I would prefer to e-mail you one. I will send a map to anyone that wants to go and requests one. I'm reluctant to publicize the spot. This place is a little secret for us long-timers here and it really kicks ass. I'm afraid it's going to be over run by wannabe-trailer-scum that trash good shooting spots. Traditionally, around here when that happens, the BLM or State shuts the sites down because of the few bad apples.

... I'm thinking more and more about spending Saturday (5/3) night out there with some night vision equipment, funstuff and steaks for the hell of it. In part that way I can secure the site for a dozen (comfortably) or so AZ AR15.com shooters.
Link Posted: 4/27/2003 11:24:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 8:48:54 AM EDT
Is your secret spot near Queen Valley the same as "my" secret spot (since '88), you know - the deadend canyon thing? Unfortuneately it's already getting trashed. Might be fun though, keep us posted.
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 4:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/28/2003 5:44:34 PM EDT by Winston_Wolf]

Originally Posted By samsi:
Is your secret spot near Queen Valley the same as "my" secret spot (since '88), you know - the deadend canyon thing? Unfortuneately it's already getting trashed. Might be fun though, keep us posted.



... Sure sounds like the same spot. Pretty bitchin' huh? I should have maps done by tonight sometime for those interested.

MAPS AVAILABLE NOW
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 12:16:50 AM EDT
I have secured that day off!!!!! Ohh yeah!!!
Bringing Jeep, M96, SP1A1, and Scout Squad!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 5:49:34 AM EDT
Any plans yet for a place to meet then caravan. Maybe east valley like the Denny's at Superstition Springs mall or something.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 12:33:41 PM EDT
I'm in as well. Any odd chance anyone is coming from West Valley (I'm in Goodyear) that I could ride with? The CG shoot played hell on my Camaro and Table Mesa wasn't a whole lot better.
Hope to see gunslinger and desertmoon there before I head back to humidity heaven.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 12:43:16 PM EDT
Will I still be allowed to play if I bring something mundane like - gasp! - a turnbolt Mauser? OK, I'll bring a black rifle too.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 12:50:51 PM EDT
I'm good to go on that day, and will be bringing all me toys along. (M16, M11 and suppressed P22) plus a few...eh...semi guns.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 10:54:49 PM EDT
Where should the pre shoot breakfast be held??? There's an IHOP on the West side of Power just below Baseline Rd. and there is a Denny's on the West side about 1/4 mile North of the freeway (US60)
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 11:15:44 PM EDT


Count me in as soon as I get map from Winston_Wolf. I also see if I can drag AZTroper and Huntrik's out too. And any other North Phoneix ARFCOM'ers.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 5:23:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2003 10:03:48 PM EDT by Winston_Wolf]

Originally Posted By desertmoon:
Where should the pre shoot breakfast be held??? There's an IHOP on the West side of Power just below Baseline Rd. and there is a Denny's on the West side about 1/4 mile North of the freeway (US60)



... A couple things to keep in mind guys.

(1) Unless you're early to breakfast, here on the East side, it can be up to a two hour tax on a Sunday morning.

(2) If you do choose a spot to eat, park in such a manner that you or someone you trust can keep a constant eye on your vehicle and gear.

(3) Looks like maybe rain this weekend. So what? Bring a canopy.

(4) Allow for enough time to clean up the range a bit. We don't want to be grouped with irresponsible slobs calling themselves shooters. Meaning, the area doesn't need to be pristine when you leave, but by goodness, if your going to bring a refrigerator to shoot up, plan on carting its carcass out!

(5) If coming out Saturday night, bring your night vision gear & spotting scopes, I am.

... I'm still planning on securing the spot Saturday night. Haven't camped out since last summer and I'm looking forward to it. Not going to be able to send out maps after Saturday afternoon so if you miss out ask someone going for a copy.



Link Posted: 4/30/2003 12:23:38 PM EDT
My wife and I will be there!
TREETOP, I have a hand thrower I will bring, plus a box of clays.
More than likely, it will be my white CJ-7, or black Tahoe (both have dive flag stickers/lic. plates.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 2:50:18 PM EDT
Anyone got an extra firing pin retaining pin they can sell/give me there? I just broke mine after field stripping my gun in an effort to put it back in (doh!). If not, any good places near the Chandler area to pick one up?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 3:00:12 PM EDT
Can someone send me a map?? I MIGHT be able to make it, but not sure yet. Also, anyone ever do a Saturday shoot? I usually a lot more free time on Sat. Just askin... :)

Thanks
Ian
wizzard@adata.com
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 3:30:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2003 3:30:54 PM EDT by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 3:30:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/30/2003 3:31:55 PM EDT by HamburgerTrain]
az-ar, I'll check the parts I have in my "oops" box and IM you this evening if I do (most lkely do, just need to confirm).

Edited to ask:
desertmoon, are you going to have your swinger again or is it still on the injured reserve list?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 6:00:49 PM EDT
DANG! I wish I could come out and Protest the Shoot, but I have Shotgun Class at Avery!

I'll have to send some Protesters out there with "NO Blood for TANNERITE" signs!
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 6:43:42 PM EDT
Thanks Guys! And another thing, does anyone want chocolate milk?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 7:05:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By az-ar:
Thanks Guys! And another thing, does anyone want chocolate milk?


Who doesn't?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 9:12:55 PM EDT

Can someone send me a map?? I MIGHT be able to make it, but not sure yet. Also, anyone ever do a Saturday shoot? I usually a lot more free time on Sat. Just askin... :)

Thanks
Ian



Thanks, I got it! Turns out it's the same place I always go shooting...
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 11:04:20 PM EDT
Hmmmmm...Winston has a good point about the two hour tax...even though the snowbirds on on their way home...I am not sure what to do. I waa thinking of grabbing a place around 7 ish then doing a caravan.

Anybody have an alternate idea????
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 11:20:26 PM EDT
camp out on saturday.
bring firewater.

Link Posted: 4/30/2003 11:43:48 PM EDT
I would agree that if were going to meet up for breakfast, it would have to be early in order to beat the snowbirds and such. 7A sounds good.
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 12:55:36 AM EDT
hamburger: sadly, the dinger stand is still toasty....sniff I might try to get one welded up before then but I doubt I will have the time.


to make this easier: does anyone WANT to meet before hand??????
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 6:46:46 PM EDT
Oh pooh, I work Sunday!
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 7:08:45 PM EDT
Hey Russ,

Will Jessica whip up breakfast for all of us at the Cav Arms' shop?
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 9:01:19 PM EDT

to make this easier: does anyone WANT to meet before hand??????


I'd like to, especially with anyone from the west side of town. As stated I don't want to torture my camaro trying to get there. I'm askin around the jobsite for a truck to borrow just in case though.
If no one from the west side is going, can I park at someone's house and ride in with ya? I'm good for gas and beverages and such in exchange.

Still scrounging at work for some decent sized spare steel plates. I guess I'll have to lean 'em against something out there since there won't be time to fab up stands.
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 11:48:20 PM EDT
my plan is to head out there saturday before dark and do a bit of rifle shooting. I'm taking some firewood, shade, tables, etc for sunday. May take a little hike around as it's been a while since I've been out in that area. I'm not really on the west side, but at cave creek/bell. If you want to carpool Hamburger_T, let me know.
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 5:37:56 AM EDT
Can't make this one.
I'm going to the Gunsite 556 class this month with my Sgt.

The good news is my agency is paying me 40 hours to go.

The bad news is I have to pay for the class and ammo, so no road trips to the valley this month.

The great news is it's 1600 rounds of 223 outdoors, 300 of .45, and 360 of frangible 223 for the indoor funhouses, plus we get to shoot each other with simunitions equipped ar15's in the funhouses.

It will take me a year to clean out all the carbon in my upper:

It's gonna be SWEET!!!!!

Jay
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 5:55:24 AM EDT
AZCOP,

Is Giles teaching that one? Sounds like fun.
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 6:33:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TopCrest:
I still have like 30-40 tannerite targets left...



... Bring them TopCrest, I'm bringing about 50. We'll have enough for everyone to shoot several but think about some form of environment friendly targets. There are two nice and large, fixed steel targets left over from the mine. They make a nice report when engaged. Bowling pins, poppers and swingers are certainly encouraged. I'll lay down a nice straight yellow incident tape for an implied firing line. Bring a folding table & a chair!

... Although I'm bringing a .50 BMG, there are not too many 250 yard plus targets in the canyon.
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