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Quoted: So everyone can transport loaded long guns with this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Same as with a license, correct? I haven't see confirmation on this part. Currently transport of long guns is very different depending on CHL status. So everyone can transport loaded long guns with this? How is carry of a long gun different for those with permits? I didn't think it was. The articles I have seen say no change, still no loaded rifles in cars. For anyone. |
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Quoted: So everyone can transport loaded long guns with this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Same as with a license, correct? I haven't see confirmation on this part. Currently transport of long guns is very different depending on CHL status. So everyone can transport loaded long guns with this? Ohio law doesn’t grant any special privileges to CCW holders in terms of carrying a loaded long gun in a vehicle, as far as I know. And I’ve been carrying for 10+ years now. Not an attorney though. |
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Quoted: No separate storage requirements? View Quote Currently, without a CHL, long guns must be cased and separated from ammo/loaded mags. With a CHL, no case requirements nor separate storage requirements. With or without a CHL, long guns cannot be loaded. There's much more, but those are the BIG ones. |
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Quoted: Currently, without a CHL, long guns must be cased and separated from ammo/loaded mags. With a CHL, no case requirements nor separate storage requirements. With or without a CHL, long guns cannot be loaded. There's much more, but those are the BIG ones. View Quote So almost no difference. |
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Quoted: Dumb question. Is Constitutional Carry reciprocal with other states? View Quote no, ...the changes brought forth will only apply to concealed carry within Ohio... ...the CHL (license) still has some perks, ...a big one being the reciprocity agreements between Ohio and numerous other states... those agreements are established by state A.G.s, and when you are in another state, you are subject to the laws and conditions for concealed carry of the respective state (i.e. including their terms for allowing out-of-staters to CC, most require you have your state's CHL and a reciprocity agreement in place). ...also, very important: i can't stress enough - the changes being brought to bear in SB 215 are not effective until 90 days from today... so, we have to abide by the existing CC statute, including the duty-to-notify, until the 90 day grace period is crossed... |
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VICTORY: Gun-Rights Advocates Score a MAJOR Win in Ohio
It should be noted that the new law only applies to “qualifying adults” who have resided in Ohio for at least 45 days, are age 21 or older, and are not otherwise prohibited from owning a firearm under state or federal law. Those who wish to utilize reciprocity agreements with other states will still need to obtain a license to do so. “This is a day that will go down in history,” Dean Rieck, executive director of BFA, said in a statement. “The brass ring has always been to eliminate the licensing mandate, which people refer to as permitless carry or Constitutional Carry. And now, finally, that day is here. This is a great moment for Ohio and for those who wish to more fully exercise their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.” Rieck noted that DeWine had promised his group in a candidate questionnaire that he would sign a constitutional carry bill if it landed on his desk, saying that the governor has fulfilled his promise” to Ohio’s four million gun owners. View Quote The Firearms Policy Coalition thanked those involved with the passage of the bill in a press release: “We recognize that this historic achievement in human liberty would not be possible without the dedicated effort made by the good people of Ohio. On behalf of our members and supporters, FPC thanks Gov. DeWine, bill sponsor Sen. Terry Johnson, and the numerous Ohio senators and representatives for their unwavering leadership in making Ohio the 23rd state to enact permitless-carry legislation; a trend we aim to continue in the months and years ahead.” View Quote |
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View Quote Did the NRA really do anything or are they riding the coattails of others' efforts? |
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View Quote Hummm... I don’t remember seeing anything from the NRA on this matter. I saw a lot from the BFA, but nothing from the NRA. Are they jumping on the bandwagon at the last second or am I off base? |
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...the FOP isn't too happy w/ our expansion of freedom...
DeWine signs bill changing Ohio's concealed carry requirements |
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Quoted: Hummm... I don’t remember seeing anything from the NRA on this matter. I saw a lot from the BFA, but nothing from the NRA. Are they jumping on the bandwagon at the last second or am I off base? View Quote ...guys, to my knowledge the NRA has been an active participant in getting constitutional carry over the line here in Ohio... ...if you go back and listen to BFA's right-to-bear podcasts, you'll know that the NRA field rep for our region has been interviewed several times over the last year on such efforts... ...i believe they also provide proponent testimony to legislative committees routinely, ...so feel free to check the record... ...certainly lots of folks behind the scenes have been working in tandem to bring it to bear - IMO, this has been a big team effort... ...let's celebrate this major achievement, and also acknowledge credit to our gun rights orgs, whose efforts are rarely seen by those of us outside the walls and halls of the columbus swamp! |
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...this is probably one of the more straightforward and factual reports from a "news" outlet i've seen thus far:
Gov. Mike DeWine signs bill eliminating required training, permits for carrying concealed weapons COLUMBUS, Ohio — Republican Gov. Mike DeWine signed into law Monday a measure that will make a concealed weapons permit optional for anyone legally allowed to carry a gun and eliminate the requirement that individuals “promptly” notify police officers that they are carrying a concealed weapon. View Quote Gun owners can still apply for a concealed weapons permit under the legislation, allowing those who obtain it to carry a concealed weapon in states with reciprocity agreements recognizing such permits. In encounters with police, the bill requires only that individuals confirm they are carrying a weapon if asked by an officer. The Buckeye Firearms Association said 21 other states allow people to carry a concealed weapon without a license. Gun control groups such as Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America opposed it, as did law enforcement groups concerned about the legislation’s lack of required training. The Ohio Democratic Party accused the governor of caving “to special interest groups and extremists,” saying the measure “will make all Ohioans less safe.” View Quote |
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...FOP must have dreams of honest criminals...
DeWine approves permitless carry bill Michael Weinman, director of government affairs for the Fraternal Order of Police of Ohio, said dropping the notification requirement was “one of the critical points” that led the FOP to oppose SB 215. “We see the notification as a commonsense measure to keep the permit holder and officer safe,” Weinman said. He further expressed concern that eliminating the notification requirement could lead to “repeated denials” by concealed carry owners to comply with law enforcement’s inquiries about them possessing a firearm, putting officers in potentially dangerous situations. “By essentially eliminating the CHL, the number of individuals carrying concealed handguns will undoubtedly increase. And with that increase, individuals who have not had any training have not been subject to a background check and can avoid a suspension or revocation by a sheriff,” Weinman said. “Will officers be faced with more gun violence?” View Quote |
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Happy to admit I was wrong. I never thought he would sign it.
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“..some local leaders like Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey have spoken out against the bill.
‘What this (bill) represents in my mind, honestly, is lawlessness...it represents the wild, wild west,’ McGuffey said in February. ‘It puts our officer at risk. It puts one more layer onto what could be a very stressful situation for the officer.’” Attached File |
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Why would it not apply to non residents? Are the other states with it like that?
“qualifying adults” who have resided in Ohio for at least 45 days, are age 21 or older View Quote |
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Quoted: “..some local leaders like Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey have spoken out against the bill. ‘What this (bill) represents in my mind, honestly, is lawlessness...it represents the wild, wild west,’ McGuffey said in February. ‘It puts our officer at risk. It puts one more layer onto what could be a very stressful situation for the officer.’” /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif View Quote Some LEO's are such because they enjoy the power. Those with that attitude don't like the idea that others are legally armed as well. |
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Quoted: “..some local leaders like Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey have spoken out against the bill. ‘What this (bill) represents in my mind, honestly, is lawlessness...it represents the wild, wild west,’ McGuffey said in February. ‘It puts our officer at risk. It puts one more layer onto what could be a very stressful situation for the officer.’” /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: “..some local leaders like Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey have spoken out against the bill. ‘What this (bill) represents in my mind, honestly, is lawlessness...it represents the wild, wild west,’ McGuffey said in February. ‘It puts our officer at risk. It puts one more layer onto what could be a very stressful situation for the officer.’” /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif ...this woke turd leaves her gun in her vehicle out on the driveway... ...but, according to her, it's we who are negligent and dangerous... Hamilton County Sheriff’s gun, county car stolen from driveway CINCINNATI (WXIX) -Hamilton County Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey’s assigned county car was stolen from her driveway Saturday with her gun inside. Sheriff McGuffey told FOX19 her car was stolen from her Columbia Tusculum home and was found near Kings Run Drive and Winnestee Avenue. The gun, however, was not found. She says she responded to an incident involving a man barricading himself Friday night. When she got home, she parked her unmarked car in the driveway. Sheriff McGuffey says, as is normal for her, she left her gun in a secured compartment in her locked car. As she was leaving for the airport for a Sheriff’s conference around 8 a.m. Saturday morning, she noticed her car was stolen and reported it. |
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...she leaves her sidearm in the car in the driveway overnight...
so sick of these virtue-signaling jackasses who project their inadequacies on the rest of us... McGuffey: Hamilton County sheriff: County car was 'locked', 'alarmed' before stolen with gun inside "I had gone out to a barricaded individual out in Symmes Township. So, you know, when I got home, I locked up the car because it was just, yeah, I secured it in the vehicle and locked the car in my own driveway and got busy with something else I had to put my attention to," McGuffey said. "The next morning is when I discovered the vehicle had been stolen right out of my driveway." She said the cruiser was stolen in Columbia Tusculum and found in the Winton Terrace area on Saturday afternoon. The gun was gone, according to officials. View Quote |
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So what date can Ohio residents start CC'ing without a permit?
Or is it immediate because of his signature? |
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Quoted: So what date can Ohio residents start CC'ing without a permit? View Quote Per the Dispatch, June 12. |
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Quoted: ...it represents the wild, wild west,’ McGuffey said in February. ‘It puts our officer at risk. View Quote I can't believe they're still parroting this narrative which has been proven wrong in every other state with permit less carry. The logic behind having to notify an officer you're carrying makes no sense either and i don't understand why they think it increases officer safety to maintain it. How many videos are there of an officer being shot at after the ccw holder has notified them are carrying? Cause i can find a ton of videos showing cops shot at by people before they even get to the car, most illegally carrying BTW. Not too mention their system notified them of a ccw holder with they ran the plate. |
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Quoted: I can't believe they're still parroting this narrative which has been proven wrong in every other state with permit less carry. The logic behind having to notify an officer you're carrying makes no sense either and i don't understand why they think it increases officer safety to maintain it. How many videos are there of an officer being shot at after the ccw holder has notified them are carrying? Cause i can find a ton of videos showing cops shot at by people before they even get to the car, most illegally carrying BTW. Not too mention their system notified them of a ccw holder with they ran the plate. View Quote My cars aren't in my name. |
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Cam discusses the great news about Ohio at the top of the show! ...and also possibility of several more states to follow!
A (mostly) clean sweep for Constitutional Carry? |
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...folks, i was able to get through to a live person today....
...Dewine did honor his promise and sign constitutional carry into law, ...he deserves an atta-boy for it!!! ...very, very important we reinforce good actions with appreciation; long term, that's how the game is won... take a minute, call in and just tell them we appreciate him honoring the promise and making it law: Gov. Dewine (614) 466-3555 |
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Quoted: ...folks, i was able to get through to a live person today.... ...Dewine did honor his promise and sign constitutional carry into law, ...he deserves an atta-boy for it!!! ...very, very important we reinforce good actions with appreciation; long term, that's how the game is won... take a minute, call in and just tell them we appreciate him honoring the promise and making it law: Gov. Dewine (614) 466-3555 View Quote Still don’t trust him |
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added new poll to the thread "What will you do after Constitutional Carry Goes into Effect?"...
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Quoted: Still don’t trust him View Quote yep, no qualms with that - we should treat all the political critters w/ skepticism... ...on this particular issue, he's been keeping to his word, so that is very good to see... ...if he's the general election candidate later this year, surely he'll be put on the hot seat again with gun rights orgs soliciting candidate pledges... |
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Quoted: Quoted: ...folks, i was able to get through to a live person today.... ...Dewine did honor his promise and sign constitutional carry into law, ...he deserves an atta-boy for it!!! ...very, very important we reinforce good actions with appreciation; long term, that's how the game is won... take a minute, call in and just tell them we appreciate him honoring the promise and making it law: Gov. Dewine (614) 466-3555 Still don't trust him |
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Glad he signed it.
Now let’s put Blystone in as Gov and call it a good year for us. |
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Quoted: Glad he signed it. Now let’s put Blystone in as Gov and call it a good year for us. View Quote Attached File |
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He signed it because he's up for re-election and he wants conservatives to support him. Period.
If he gets re-elected I strongly suspect we'll see a different outcome on pro-liberty bills. The guy is a dyed in the wool swamp creature. |
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Quoted: added new poll to the thread "What will you do after Constitutional Carry Goes into Effect?"... View Quote I also think that obtaining and maintaining a license communicates that I take the responsibility of going about armed seriously. I keep records of firearms training I've attended for the same reason. |
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Quoted: added new poll to the thread "What will you do after Constitutional Carry Goes into Effect?"... View Quote Carry without CCW, I was going to take a class then Covid lockdown started and it got canceled. When the burning, looting and road blocking got going I said F it and carried anyway. |
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Now let’s put Blystone in as Gov and call it a good year for us. View Quote Yessir! |
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“Wolske suggested even if the law does not require a driver to announce when they are carrying a concealed weapon to officers during a traffic stop, it is best for everyone involved if they voluntarily offer the information anyway.”
Attached File What a scary world it must be for the LEOs in every state without “duty to notify” to do their job! |
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Quoted: He signed it because he's up for re-election and he wants conservatives to support him. Period. View Quote The bill came up just at the right time, as Taft promised he would support CCW just before re-election, and once in, he moved the goal post. Luckily, we had the votes to override his veto DeWine on the other hand. I can't stand him, never could, ever since he was part of the Gang of 14, and I held my nose and voted for him as Governor, this time round, I'll hold my.vote... |
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Quoted: Glad he signed it. Now let’s put Blystone in as Gov and call it a good year for us. View Quote Let’s get HB-248 initiative rolling. Dave Yost is playing games with this one. ? Prohibits mandatory vaccinations, vaccination status disclosures, and certain other actions regarding vaccinations. ? Authorizes an individual to bring a civil action if the individual believes a violation has occurred and requires the court to award a prevailing plaintiff attorney’s fees, compensation for court costs, and any civil penalty the court considers appropriate. ? Names the act the Vaccine Choice and Anti-Discrimination Act. More info here |
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Quoted: ...the FOP isn't too happy w/ our expansion of freedom... DeWine signs bill changing Ohio's concealed carry requirements View Quote How can these people be so fuckling disingenuous and no one calls then out? Rhetorical question obviously... we know the media is on the same page as FOP. Fuck them for lying. |
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Quoted: Quoted: So what date can Ohio residents start CC'ing without a permit? Per the Dispatch, June 12. @Et2ss @von_landstuhl Actually, the date is June 13th. The effective date is here in the link to O.R.C. Section 2923.111. https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-2923.111 |
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