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Posted: 5/30/2018 7:36:59 PM EDT
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Seems to be another case of a legal owner who did a legal transfer after the 12/31/16 date. He's in the right, but may have to spend a lot of money to prove it. Total bullshit. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 1:57:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2018 12:40:00 PM EDT
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That's weird. Why'd they do that? When I finished reading last night, there was someone trying to get the OP to stop posting. The OP was unconcerned about his posts and said so.
Did someone on staff decide to nuke the entire thread? OP, thanks for bringing this to our attention. We need to know what's happening and you helped. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 3:12:09 PM EDT
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That's weird. Why'd they do that? When I finished reading last night, there was someone trying to get the OP to stop posting. The OP was unconcerned about his posts and said so. Did someone on staff decided to nuke the entire thread? OP, thanks for bringing this to our attention. We need to know what's happening and you helped. Or he realized it was not good to have that info public prior to a lawsuit/defense. That is my best guess. |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 2:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDarn Calguns boinked it
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Posted: 6/1/2018 2:55:54 PM EDT
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DOJ once again proves that registration does lead to confiscation (And arrest). No, they're not coming after our guns, noooo, not at all
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Posted: 6/1/2018 3:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat link comes up lame on calguns for me. Is there another available?...
ETA: Disregard, I read the rest of the thread... |
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Posted: 6/1/2018 8:35:23 PM EDT
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That thread is ghost
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Posted: 6/2/2018 7:10:14 PM EDT
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I have to say, these incidents and this thread are VERY educational. I process the events thru my version of reality (my understanding of law) and find all sorts of new things I need to know. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 7:27:42 PM EDT
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Yep. Don't try to register a lower you DROS after Dec 31, 2016 as a BBAW. |
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Posted: 6/2/2018 7:31:21 PM EDT
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Nor try to register anything that you had as a BBAW before 2017 if there is any technicality that might cause DOJ to treat it as a post-2016 acquisition, such as a pawn and return, return from LE possession, or perhaps other things as well, even though the law would seem to indicate that neither title nor continuous ownership/possession prior to 2017 is actually required. As usual, the DOJ makes up what it wants and treats it with force of law. Those people are just plain corrupt, to put it very nicely.
Honestly, don't try to register anything at all. Before anything even started I figured things like this or worse would happen. Registration is just a bad idea if it can be avoided. It brings the type of attention to yourself that you do not want, and they will be looking for any technicality to use to confiscate your guns or prosecute you. No matter how much it upsets the pro-registration people, registration is a bad idea and you should not do it. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 6:58:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went featureless or converted to rimfire on everything. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 7:18:48 PM EDT
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Come on over and shoot my belt fed sometime! In California, a belt that can hold more than 10 cartridges is considered a high capacity magazine and is a felony. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 7:24:17 PM EDT
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You guys should move. What I see going on out here is really, really bad. Bad, as in unconstitutional, criminally illegal, treasonous and a gross dereliction of duties of the Office. Yeah, IMO, it's THAT bad. I am actively planning to leave. The question is not IF, only WHEN and WHERE. |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 12:22:12 PM EDT
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Apparently, I am not alone in wanting to leave.
46% of those surveyed want to leave the SF Bay area. 22% want to get out of California, altogether. <-- that's 1/4 to 1/2 of the population! Lots of reasons are cited as causes but underlying most/all is State politics. "The survey was a joint effort by advocacy group Bay Area Council and public opinion data firm EMC Research. The poll involved 1,000 registered voters in the Bay Area." Sacramento Bee Survey Results |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 5:33:38 PM EDT
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Everyone that I know that has a beltfed wrapped the last 10-15 rounds and had them dated as to when it was wrapped and the belt purchased. That way if Johnny Law ever asked, they could point to and show when it was purchased.
By wrapping the last 10 rounds or more, it never becomes just links and can be reloaded to however long they want and stay legal. As with anything firearm related in CA, none of this will protect you if they have a hard on for you! If they call B.S. on you, your bank account will be taking a hit trying to get out from under some DA's belt notching tool. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 8:17:49 AM EDT
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Like I said, I didn't realize what I was doing was wrong. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 11:00:48 AM EDT
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Imagine if 100% of the 1/4 - 1/2 all voted. You could easily take the state back.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 3:25:42 PM EDT
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Imagine if 100% of the 1/4 - 1/2 all voted. You could easily take the state back. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 2:33:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never trust LE, never concede anything to them, and don't register guns with people who want to take them away. |
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:12:06 AM EDT
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This exactly. Back in my home state there were at least some officers who supported 2A rights. Won’t find that here. The sheriffs won’t even give you a conceal carry permit in most counties. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 9:12:44 AM EDT
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You cannot get the CCW in the counties where you most need it. I am leaving this State ASAP. The timing just isn't right at this moment but soon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This exactly. Back in my home state there were at least some officers who supported 2A rights. Won’t find that here. The sheriffs won’t even give you a conceal carry permit in most counties. |
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Posted: 8/13/2018 12:28:24 PM EDT
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Apparently, I am not alone in wanting to leave. 46% of those surveyed want to leave the SF Bay area. 22% want to get out of California, altogether. <-- that's 1/4 to 1/2 of the population! Lots of reasons are cited as causes but underlying most/all is State politics. "The survey was a joint effort by advocacy group Bay Area Council and public opinion data firm EMC Research. The poll involved 1,000 registered voters in the Bay Area." Sacramento Bee Survey Results I have been across this great nation of ours and I swear California is one of THE MOST gorgeous states in the union. So sad what the people here voted in. |
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Posted: 9/1/2018 3:01:01 PM EDT
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I'm sorry for your loss.
I would suggest that politics sometimes reverses itself. Perhaps you could pay someone to find out the names of the officers involved for future recovery efforts, when the federal DOJ cleans out the corruption and treason, however unlikely some may think that now. Keep the information on them and your firearms for future Justice. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 2:39:27 PM EDT
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I can confirm this is still happening in CA. I live in Southern California and almost exactly the same thing occurred yesterday. I’ve now lost my oldest AR, one I bought the day I turned 18 and have owned since.
This state is out of control. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 2:41:59 PM EDT
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Any further details you can share?
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Posted: 10/17/2018 3:28:57 PM EDT
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I can confirm this is still happening in CA. I live in Southern California and almost exactly the same thing occurred yesterday. I’ve now lost my oldest AR, one I bought the day I turned 18 and have owned since. This state is out of control. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 5:32:15 PM EDT
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I can confirm this is still happening in CA. I live in Southern California and almost exactly the same thing occurred yesterday. I’ve now lost my oldest AR, one I bought the day I turned 18 and have owned since. This state is out of control. Was it one that nominally should have been registered way back when? what brought it to the attention of the authorities. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 8:45:59 PM EDT
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I can confirm this is still happening in CA. I live in Southern California and almost exactly the same thing occurred yesterday. I’ve now lost my oldest AR, one I bought the day I turned 18 and have owned since. This state is out of control. |
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Posted: 10/17/2018 9:29:17 PM EDT
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This exactly. Back in my home state there were at least some officers who supported 2A rights. Won’t find that here. The sheriffs won’t even give you a conceal carry permit in most counties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Never trust LE, never concede anything to them, and don't register guns with people who want to take them away. |
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Posted: 10/27/2018 4:25:14 PM EDT
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Here's one that ended out okay.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1485878 |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 2:29:10 AM EDT
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Here's one that ended out okay. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1485878 THere is no justification for this, no bright side, no silver lining. It is not tolerable, and IMO DOJ agents should be viewed the same as traitors. They utterly disgust me. |
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Posted: 10/28/2018 1:32:41 PM EDT
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... IMO DOJ agents should be viewed the same as traitors. They utterly disgust me. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 12:42:02 AM EDT
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Last Thursday at 8:30PM I received a knock at my front door and on the other side of it were 6 DOJ officers in full tactical gear with 3 unmarked Ford Explorers parked on the street
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Posted: 11/22/2018 2:21:17 PM EDT
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Man you guys are stupid in California trusting the govt but I do respect you all for sticking it out and not running to another state like cowards.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:13:13 PM EDT
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Man you guys are stupid in California trusting the govt but I do respect you all for sticking it out and not running to another state like cowards. P.S. - Idaho is on the top of my list of places to retire to. I'll be bringing other Californians with me if and when I come. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 1:21:29 PM EDT
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Trust the government??? Are you kidding me? If THAT is what you take away from this thread, you should re-read the thread, as you have seriously misinterpreted it. P.S. - Idaho is on the top of my list of places to retire to. I'll be bringing other Californians with me if and when I come. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man you guys are stupid in California trusting the govt but I do respect you all for sticking it out and not running to another state like cowards. P.S. - Idaho is on the top of my list of places to retire to. I'll be bringing other Californians with me if and when I come. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 2:08:09 PM EDT
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You assume they are all R voters... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine if 100% of the 1/4 - 1/2 all voted. You could easily take the state back. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 2:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. You keep bringing your Californian friends which is causing the cost of living, overcrowding of schools, infrastructure, crime, and real estate to sky rocket. Once you move you can't keep your pie holes shut and can't figure out why the price of everything keeps on going up. Californians think they are conservative they move to Idaho and are always saying garbage like, "in California we do it this way". Idaho is full go somewhere else. 2. and this bullshit about "Californians think they are conservative" I lost two of the greatest conservative friends here to move to your state. Pro gun, Pro hunting, Just by those two families moving up there pushed you more conservative than you'll ever know ... You're welcome! Don't understand... been told for years "move to a free state!" and so here we are moving and now y'all don't like it? https://boisedev.com/news/2018/6/1/think-a-lot-of-californians-are-haded-for-idaho-new-data-says-youre-right/ |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 4:57:48 PM EDT
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. You keep bringing your Californian friends which is causing the cost of living, overcrowding of schools, infrastructure, crime, and real estate to sky rocket. Once you move you can't keep your pie holes shut and can't figure out why the price of everything keeps on going up. Californians think they are conservative they move to Idaho and are always saying garbage like, "in California we do it this way". Idaho is full go somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man you guys are stupid in California trusting the govt but I do respect you all for sticking it out and not running to another state like cowards. P.S. - Idaho is on the top of my list of places to retire to. I'll be bringing other Californians with me if and when I come. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 5:01:40 PM EDT
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and their votes aren't stolen. OC went for 300k votes for Cox to all blue? I call bullshit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine if 100% of the 1/4 - 1/2 all voted. You could easily take the state back. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 5:16:00 PM EDT
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. You keep bringing your Californian friends which is causing the cost of living, overcrowding of schools, infrastructure, crime, and real estate to sky rocket. Once you move you can't keep your pie holes shut and can't figure out why the price of everything keeps on going up. Californians think they are conservative they move to Idaho and are always saying garbage like, "in California we do it this way". Idaho is full go somewhere else. According to this guy, just by virtue of the State we happen to live in - We are "stupid". We are "cowards". Californians are "cockroaches". Californians are solely responsible for inflation in Idaho. Californians are solely responsible for crime in Idaho. We have "pie holes" not mouths, not votes, not informed opinions,... "pie holes". We are not entitled to engage in civil discourse; something which we cannot look to wspe1 to model for us. Anything we say is "garbage". On top of it all, apparently, wspe1 is entitled to pronounce that "Idaho is full". He must be God,... or a worker for the State government,... or something important. P.S. - You don't get a vote on the question of location to which we move. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 5:56:54 PM EDT
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Does this constitute a form of "ant burning"? It is a nice, well-reasoned post on the California Home Town Forum. According to this guy, just by virtue of the State we happen to live in - We are "stupid". We are "cowards". Californians are "cockroaches". Californians are solely responsible for inflation in Idaho. Californians are solely responsible for crime in Idaho. We have "pie holes" not mouths, not votes, not informed opinions,... "pie holes". We are not entitled to engage in civil discourse; something which we cannot look to wspe1 to model for us. Anything we say is "garbage". On top of it all, apparently, wspe1 is entitled to pronounce that "Idaho is full". He must be God,... or a worker for the State government,... or something important. P.S. - You don't get a vote on the question of location to which we move. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. You keep bringing your Californian friends which is causing the cost of living, overcrowding of schools, infrastructure, crime, and real estate to sky rocket. Once you move you can't keep your pie holes shut and can't figure out why the price of everything keeps on going up. Californians think they are conservative they move to Idaho and are always saying garbage like, "in California we do it this way". Idaho is full go somewhere else. According to this guy, just by virtue of the State we happen to live in - We are "stupid". We are "cowards". Californians are "cockroaches". Californians are solely responsible for inflation in Idaho. Californians are solely responsible for crime in Idaho. We have "pie holes" not mouths, not votes, not informed opinions,... "pie holes". We are not entitled to engage in civil discourse; something which we cannot look to wspe1 to model for us. Anything we say is "garbage". On top of it all, apparently, wspe1 is entitled to pronounce that "Idaho is full". He must be God,... or a worker for the State government,... or something important. P.S. - You don't get a vote on the question of location to which we move. |
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Posted: 11/24/2018 10:38:07 PM EDT
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Tell us to move and then get butthurt?
 Those people that say "this is how we do it in CA" aren't conservatives, they're liberals. Bitching about it here is preaching to the choir! Oh yeah, if you dont like it... move. See how that works?! |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 1:01:03 AM EDT
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Tell us to move and then get butthurt? Those people that say "this is how we do it in CA" aren't conservatives, they're liberals. Bitching about it here is preaching to the choir! Oh yeah, if you dont like it... move. See how that works?!  SPOT ON!! ETA: You made my bride laugh 
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Posted: 12/12/2018 11:27:10 PM EDT
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Idaho is full go somewhere else. 
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Posted: 12/13/2018 11:03:05 AM EDT
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You assume they are all R voters... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine if 100% of the 1/4 - 1/2 all voted. You could easily take the state back. 
I'm not sure what I'll do next. We left the Bay Area and moved deep into the mountains and I intend to stay until my kids grow into adults, but I may not be able to swing that. We'll see. Vogue magazine just wrote an article encouraging people from the Bay Area to move to my town. They'll bring their shitty attitudes and policies with them. With regards to the CADOJ: FU. I bought rifles neutered to your standards, then you change the rules and require me to spends hundreds of dollars to comply or risk criminal charges. Sounds legit to me. What a slippery slope we're on. The precedent set by this is disgusting. Imagine if they start impounding cars that aren't compliant with some future law the conjure up. I'm all legal with featureless and fixed mag now. I moved one rifle out of state to avoid neutering it. My next step is to get a second safe and store uppers/lowers separately. They've basically succeeded, I'm almost ready to sell off my AR's and build more precision bolt rifles. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:04:18 PM EDT
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. You keep bringing your Californian friends which is causing the cost of living, overcrowding of schools, infrastructure, crime, and real estate to sky rocket. Once you move you can't keep your pie holes shut and can't figure out why the price of everything keeps on going up. Californians think they are conservative they move to Idaho and are always saying garbage like, "in California we do it this way". Idaho is full go somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man you guys are stupid in California trusting the govt but I do respect you all for sticking it out and not running to another state like cowards. P.S. - Idaho is on the top of my list of places to retire to. I'll be bringing other Californians with me if and when I come. 
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Posted: 12/19/2018 4:31:43 PM EDT
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Californians transplants are the cockroaches and demise of our state. It doesn't matter who you are. A friend of mine finally escaped kali, moved to oklahoma then to Id just a few years ago. I warned him where Id's headed. Hate to say it, but your state is headed down the same road as kali, Wa, and Or. Reason your population is increasing is because your state keeps inviting them, and with that comes the liberal minset. Doesn't matter how many pro-gun people you get, the libs/anti-gun people always outnumber the pro-gun. Dont worry, I wont be coming to your state. It'll be overrun in 10yrs. By the time I retire Im making a bigger leap than the kali-to-wa one. Im talkin alaska, montanna or wyoming. Those places are managing to stay pretty rural. |
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Posted: 12/19/2018 10:47:43 PM EDT
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Use to live in kali and moved to Wa 18yrs ago. Now the transplants from kali and overseas has turned this place liberal and they're starting down the kali road guns wise. We just lost to major anti gun initiatives recently. A friend of mine finally escaped kali, moved to oklahoma then to Id just a few years ago. I warned him where Id's headed. Hate to say it, but your state is headed down the same road as kali, Wa, and Or. Reason your population is increasing is because your state keeps inviting them, and with that comes the liberal minset. Doesn't matter how many pro-gun people you get, the libs/anti-gun people always outnumber the pro-gun. Dont worry, I wont be coming to your state. It'll be overrun in 10yrs. By the time I retire Im making a bigger leap than the kali-to-wa one. Im talkin alaska, montanna or wyoming. Those places are managing to stay pretty rural. Jon Tester just won reelection. |
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