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Posted: 2/26/2006 11:04:51 AM EDT
just wondering if its legal for usins?
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 11:17:05 AM EDT
Not for civies.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 11:35:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hycheng:
Not for civies.



Wrong, Berette showed off a California legal version of the RX-4 storm at the SHOT show. It features a tradditional stock, polymer 10 round magazine (it will also accept standard AR-15/M-16 mags), and a 16 inch barrel.

Law Enforcement/Government sales will be focused on for the upcomming months. After that the RX-4 will become available for civies. This rifle is comming to California in the future.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 11:58:38 AM EDT
thank you
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 12:02:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 12:06:22 PM EDT by str8t1]
I think you have the rifles confused shopkeep. The storm (CX4/PX4) is not legal to sell to civilians in CA. The RX4 (the one that accepts ar mags) is the one that has a possible CA legal configuration. It will take a long time to be available though...
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:27:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 7:12:07 AM EDT by talbalos]

Originally Posted By shopkeep:

Originally Posted By hycheng:
Not for civies.



Wrong, Berette showed off a California legal version of the RX-4 storm at the SHOT show. It features a tradditional stock, polymer 10 round magazine (it will also accept standard AR-15/M-16 mags), and a 16 inch barrel.

Law Enforcement/Government sales will be focused on for the upcomming months. After that the RX-4 will become available for civies. This rifle is comming to California in the future.



You're the one that's a bit confused.

The question was about the pistol caliber CX4 Storm CARBINE which is not legal.


The RX4 Storm RIFLE in .223, IS a different beast altogether, but it should be available in a CA SB23 compliant version.


I haven't looked at one yet, but the PX4 Storm Pistol is supposed to be a good handgun.


Get the drift of Beretta's marketing plan? C = Carbine, R = Rifle, P = Pistol.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 9:43:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 9:43:38 AM EDT by operatorerror]
So how goofy does a CA compliant RX-4 with a 16" barrel look?
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 11:50:39 AM EDT
There's still a way to get the CX-4 carbine into California lawfully. Just do what everyone is doing to get everything else into the state: pin the mag and handload from the ejection port. True, it's a pain... but it does produce a Cali-Legal CX-4. Of course you would either need to do the modification out of state yourself or have someone else do it for you.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 1:36:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
So how goofy does a CA compliant RX-4 with a 16" barrel look?


Look at the middle rifle in the second image of my post. That would be the CA legal configuration. Spoke to someone that handled it at SHOT. They said it felt very good in their hands. And AFAIK it takes AR15 mags.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 1:42:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By talbalos:

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
So how goofy does a CA compliant RX-4 with a 16" barrel look?


Look at the middle rifle in the second image of my post. That would be the CA legal configuration. Spoke to someone that handled it at SHOT. They said it felt very good in their hands. And AFAIK it takes AR15 mags.



Yeah, it takes AR mags, and a few people handled it at SHOT and said it was nice. Here's some pics someone posted:

sigforum.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/800105194
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 3:41:05 PM EDT
i think i saw the cx4 carbine at a range once couple months back... it might be shooting .22s? i just walked by it and glanced.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:12:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2006 6:53:37 PM EDT by operatorerror]

Originally Posted By tpliquid:
i think i saw the cx4 carbine at a range once couple months back... it might be shooting .22s? i just walked by it and glanced.



Perfectly fine for LEO.

Peasants, peons and subjects need not apply.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:13:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By talbalos:

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
So how goofy does a CA compliant RX-4 with a 16" barrel look?


Look at the middle rifle in the second image of my post. That would be the CA legal configuration. Spoke to someone that handled it at SHOT. They said it felt very good in their hands. And AFAIK it takes AR15 mags.



My point being that the above pictured rifle does NOT have a 16" barrel.

The Shot Show link does show a 16" barrel.

It is now on my short list.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:42:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
It is now on my short list.



~$950 and some time till it is available... I can't wait.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:48:27 PM EDT
The problem with the RX4 is the Cali stock is really a Benneli shotgun stock. Just like the Sage EBR Cali stock for M1A, the LOF is very long and the grip is more suited for shotgun style shooting. However, as soon as the RX4 hits the market, I've already lined up someone to make a much better stock for it.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 6:53:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HalfMoon:

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
It is now on my short list.



~$950 and some time till it is available... I can't wait.



Yeah the price is up there but really not too bad.

I looked at a Benelli whatever the hell newer model it is that does .308 at the Cow Palace show two weekends ago and I fell in love. Just didn't have $1,000.00 at the time to spend. Too many lowers and uppers in the past few months have destroyed the budget.

Looks like I have another upcoming budget crisis on the horizon. I love this stuff!

WOOHOO!!!

It's only money. I'll make more.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 8:27:28 PM EDT


OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS



Link Posted: 2/27/2006 8:39:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
www.cx4storm.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/immagini/ergonomicalast.jpg

OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS

www.beretta.com/dati/ImmaginiProdottiBeretta%5C2%5C20_elenco.jpg



It's considered a rifle because of the stock so must abide by the bullshit rifle "AW" laws. In short, it has a detachable mag and thumbhole stock.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 10:14:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SC_00_05:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
www.cx4storm.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/immagini/ergonomicalast.jpg

OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS

www.beretta.com/dati/ImmaginiProdottiBeretta%5C2%5C20_elenco.jpg



It's considered a rifle because of the stock so must abide by the bullshit rifle "AW" laws. In short, it has a detachable mag and thumbhole stock.

OH FUCK ME RUNNIN!

what a bunch of buffoonery!

Who the FUCK voted these people in??
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:21:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SC_00_05:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
www.cx4storm.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/immagini/ergonomicalast.jpg

OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS

www.beretta.com/dati/ImmaginiProdottiBeretta%5C2%5C20_elenco.jpg



It's considered a rifle because of the stock so must abide by the bullshit rifle "AW" laws. In short, it has a detachable mag and thumbhole stock.



Would'nt it make the Walther G22 illegal then? Turners currently has them on sale. It has a thumbhole stock and a detachable mag.

Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:40:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cali-man:

Originally Posted By SC_00_05:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
www.cx4storm.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/immagini/ergonomicalast.jpg

OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS

www.beretta.com/dati/ImmaginiProdottiBeretta%5C2%5C20_elenco.jpg



It's considered a rifle because of the stock so must abide by the bullshit rifle "AW" laws. In short, it has a detachable mag and thumbhole stock.



Would'nt it make the Walther G22 illegal then? Turners currently has them on sale. It has a thumbhole stock and a detachable mag.

www.turners.com/engage/ads/02-23-06/walther.gif



No because the G22 doesnt shoot centerfire ammo.
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 12:40:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 12:51:41 PM EDT by XM15_Owner]

Originally Posted By cali-man:

Originally Posted By SC_00_05:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:
www.cx4storm.com/Moduli/ContentManager/publicimg/immagini/ergonomicalast.jpg

OK WHY is this NOT legal in CA? What makes it different than lets say a 92FS?

Is it mag capacity?

Its magazine in is the pistol grip LIKE the 92FS

www.beretta.com/dati/ImmaginiProdottiBeretta%5C2%5C20_elenco.jpg



It's considered a rifle because of the stock so must abide by the bullshit rifle "AW" laws. In short, it has a detachable mag and thumbhole stock.



Would'nt it make the Walther G22 illegal then? Turners currently has them on sale. It has a thumbhole stock and a detachable mag.

www.turners.com/engage/ads/02-23-06/walther.gif



Rimfire is exempt from ca AW laws where rifle are concerned. That is why the G22 from walther and the R-22 from rhineland arms are perfectly legal here.

Pete

ETA: Beaten by 20 seconds
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:04:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 4:17:50 PM EDT
Hmmmm.... we may not be able to have the CX, but can anyone say Marlin Camp. Not knowing the inside of the thing... wonder would this be hard to do:


Glock mag


1911 mag


Uzi mag


Looking at the photos... looks like there's a barrel nut holding the barrel in place, if the mag well is standard AR-type, it may be wide enough for some high-cap mag kit, if not 1911. It'll be something like a 9mm block conversion

Just something to think about.

~rc
Link Posted: 3/2/2006 5:55:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By talbalos:

You're the one that's a bit confused.


Get the drift of Beretta's marketing plan? C = Carbine, R = Rifle, P = Pistol.



If Im confused, Beretta must be too. On this page at the Beretta website you will see a "Cx4Px4" designated carbine. It must be a version that uses the Px4 mags....

Beretta
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