Just wondering if worst comes to worst it isn't banned if I could pin the mag and make a neutered reciever?

I am 99 percent sure just checking...

In theory, yes.  Pinning the mag makes it non-removable.  If it has a non-removable mag, it is not an assault weapon by definition, nor is it named.

You can evil it up all you want then.

Quoted: Just wondering if worst comes to worst it isn't banned if I could pin the mag and make a neutered reciever? I am 99 percent sure just checking...

If you're buying a receiver now, you should be planning 100% to perm. fix the max in the receiver.  There are no guarantees that any receivers will be added to the list.

If it is added then you will need to register it and when you get your registration back you're good to go.

I think alot of people on the boards are going to be putting themselves in a Felony risk situation right now.  IF YOU PUT A GRIP ON A RECEIVER BEFORE YOU "PERMINENTLY ATTACH" A MAGAZINE YOU ARE COMMITING A FELONY.

Also, just to play the other side for a moment, Why would the DOJ add them to the list?  Look at all the possible Felony charges they have in the state right now.  They already approved the Vulcans, and we know how easy they are to revert from Fixed mag.  Now, they read the boards, they know that there are alot of people jumping on the bandwagon without reading the laws.  Just start sending agents to gun ranges to watch what comes in and make arrests.

I'm hoping they add a slew of them to the list, but you never know.  like I said at the top, buy one with the intention of making a better, cheaper Vulcan like fixed mag rifle.  if something happens, great, if not, no biggie, you saved some $$ on building a fixed mag rifle.

Quoted: Quoted: Just wondering if worst comes to worst it isn't banned if I could pin the mag and make a neutered reciever? I am 99 percent sure just checking... If you're buying a receiver now, you should be planning 100% to perm. fix the max in the receiver.  There are no guarantees that any receivers will be added to the list. If it is added then you will need to register it and when you get your registration back you're good to go. I think alot of people on the boards are going to be putting themselves in a Felony risk situation right now.  IF YOU PUT A GRIP ON A RECEIVER BEFORE YOU "PERMINENTLY ATTACH" A MAGAZINE YOU ARE COMMITING A FELONY. Also, just to play the other side for a moment, Why would the DOJ add them to the list?  Look at all the possible Felony charges they have in the state right now.  They already approved the Vulcans, and we know how easy they are to revert from Fixed mag.  Now, they read the boards, they know that there are alot of people jumping on the bandwagon without reading the laws.  Just start sending agents to gun ranges to watch what comes in and make arrests. I'm hoping they add a slew of them to the list, but you never know.  like I said at the top, buy one with the intention of making a better, cheaper Vulcan like fixed mag rifle.  if something happens, great, if not, no biggie, you saved some $$ on building a fixed mag rifle.

I am guessing (hoping) that in a few months they will try to stop the gravy train and maybe ban the other receivers, although as long as people are pinning the mags the weapons are neutered and DOJ is happy.

Quoted: IF YOU PUT A GRIP ON A RECEIVER BEFORE YOU "PERMINENTLY ATTACH" A MAGAZINE YOU ARE COMMITING A FELONY. .

You know this is an IMPORTANT fact to keep repeating.

The fixed mag has to be 10 rounds or less, correct?

Quoted: The fixed mag has to be 10 rounds or less, correct?

YES

I purchased a Fixed Magazine Kit from AR15plus.com  Have not installed it yet, but it looks pretty simple.

Quoted: Quoted: Also, just to play the other side for a moment, Why would the DOJ add them to the list?  Look at all the possible Felony charges they have in the state right now.  They already approved the Vulcans, and we know how easy they are to revert from Fixed mag.  Now, they read the boards, they know that there are alot of people jumping on the bandwagon without reading the laws.  Just start sending agents to gun ranges to watch what comes in and make arrests.

I was thinking in similiar lines. If DOJ adds these unlisted lowers to the list, they will have to allow registration and there would be that many more registered AW in the state. If they do nothing, then there are a lot of expensive paperweights out there or at most, more neutered AR's unless someone builds up an illegal rifle. If I didn't already own several AW's though, I would take the chance of getting one. I have talked to several friends and co-workers about this and told them that it is worth looking into. They are having a hard time finding an FFL here to do the transfer even if they can find a lower.