Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
I'm ok with that. What I am not ok with is when people use a medium like the EE, I am the first person to call dibs, and then PM the seller to find out that he's already sold it (or more likely decided to keep it). If you plan to sell it off the EE, be open about it and say that the item is up for grabs.. The EE lives and dies by timestamps, if I'm the first one to call "BINGO!", then the prize is mine.
The seller has perogative as to whom to sell the item to. It doesn't matter as to who said "I'll take it" first. If somebody posting "I'll take it", and lives in an area the seller doesn't want to ship to (AK/HI sometimes), or has bad feedback, or has been involved in questionable deals, or made a post the seller didn't like the tone of, he is NOT BOUND to sell it.
Buyers can buy from anybody, sellers can sell to anybody. UP TO THE POINT A COMPLETE DEAL IS MADE. When only one of the two parties invovled make a deal, a deal isn't made. For Example, a sale ad, and an "I'll take it" post are not a complete
deal. It is
a deal from the BUYER'S perspective, but not from the seller's. Until the seller responds with "It is yours / sold / Shipping & Payment info", the deal is NOT Completed.
On the flip side of the coin, a buyer posting "I'll take it", then backing out when the seller wanted to complete the deal is a negative feedback.
The last sentence above may sound contradictory, however, if you step back, it makes sense. Seller posted something for sale. Buyer wants it, and is 100% sure on this, so he posts/emails/IM's "I'll take it". The seller did NOT KNOW who would be wanting to purchase, so at this point the deal is "bound" on the buyer's side, but not on the seller's side. Once the seller completes the deal, then it is all binding.
must get some cash FAST. So, he posts an ad selling one of his spare NIB Bushy Varminters for $500. 68 seconds later, a guy who just signed up to the board to get this rifle replies "I'll take it!" with his first post, TheOtherDave
sees this killer deal and posts "I'll take it!", (after the new guy), and lastly, SHIVAN
posts "I'll take it!". The first 2 minutes have now passed, and by the time crowboy
sees his ad again, there will be 2 pages of "I'll take it, if the guys above fall through..."
All Three people that posted "I'll take it" are bound to the agreement. If crowboy
sends them payment and shipping info, they must continue through the deal, or receive negative feedback from crowboy
if he wishes, as they gave their word on purchasing, whereas crowboy
doesn't know who is on the other end, which makes it hard for him to say "First come, first gets it".
So, with the new guy, having two others to choose from, crowboy
will probably skip past him, as the others have positive feedback and have been around a while. Most here have no problem agreeing to this part, due to the number of people coming back after being banned for bad EE dealings. Now, of the other two, SHIVAN
have had deals in the past, know each other's addresses and FFLs, making for a Very Quick and known "Good Transaction". With theotherdave
would need to look at feedback and decide how much of a risk, if any, that deal would pose. However, with somebody he already did business with ready to join in the deal, it would be a no brainer for crowboy
to sell to SHIVAN
, even though he responded 3rd in "line".
If you can see why somebody who needs cash immediately, doesn't want to wait/get jerked around by an unknown brand new person on the board, and will skip selling to that person, skipping any others and choosing the buyer is the same concept, hence the way we decide whether a good/bad transaction has taken place.
I need to abbreviate this and put it in the FAQ or something...