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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 9:15:17 AM EDT
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Family added the AP5-P a bit after the full size, just bought one. $1199 shipped.
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yep bought one as well.  its a hell of price
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:53:36 AM EDT
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Saw this thread in GD. I can’t find any AP5 in stock for that price.

ETA battlehawk has them now. Snagged an M for $1133 shipped
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:49:51 PM EDT
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Aside from the massive price difference, how does this compare to the SP5? Any regrets going with one of these rather than saving my Pennie’s for a while longer and going with the HK?
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The mag well and rear sight welds are cleaner on my AP5-P than my SP5.  Front trunion is better on the SP5 and the mag well is tighter.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy an MKE MP5 clone.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 3:33:02 PM EDT
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These only come with one mag and probably don't include the flash hider or the optics mount.  May want to verify what all is included so you won't be disappointed.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 4:51:30 PM EDT
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The mag well and rear sight welds are cleaner on my AP5-P than my SP5.  Front trunion is better on the SP5 and the mag well is tighter.

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For the price some are charging for an SP5 you could almost get all 3 MKE models.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 8:02:36 PM EDT
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If someone (like me) starts out with nothing and bought the package deal, it's actually better value than the current offerings:

Below numbers do not include extra fees/shipping (similar in value):

A: I bought the AP5-P with brace and SMS Optic/mount deal for $1742
With the $200 rebate (yes, gotta do some work and waiting) = $1542

B: Current AP5-P with brace = $1280 (atlanticfirearms.com)

Difference of $262 but with the following extras:

1. SMS optic/mount combo
2. extra magazine
3. Factory rail mount
4. Flash hider
5. case/cleaning kit/sling (don't have to count these)

All the above extras for $262 is a pretty good deal.  However, I am going to be picking up the AP5 for $1180 for sure.

Yg
Link Posted: 6/30/2022 1:52:19 PM EDT
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Who has the AP5 P in stock?
Link Posted: 6/30/2022 2:55:50 PM EDT
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No one, I’d put an in stock alert at battlehawk. I’m sure they will get more.
Link Posted: 6/30/2022 10:54:04 PM EDT
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Atlantic is ready to drop the AP5 and AP5 P at $1179 and with a brace $1279.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/search/?q=AP5+&qt=all_words

Link Posted: 7/1/2022 11:11:35 AM EDT
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The Atlantic CORE model prices are great.  You don't need the rail, FH (although cool looking), or cleaning kit IMHO.  Pick up a few AC Unity mags are you GTG.


Century Arms AP5 CORE Pistols at Atlantic Firearms
Link Posted: 7/1/2022 1:20:59 PM EDT
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Yep just seen the email from them saying they are instock. Ordered the AP5 P
Link Posted: 7/1/2022 6:26:29 PM EDT
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I missed this round but on the email list.  I suppose a real K vs reverse stretch would round out the collection.

The M is rather cool in that it has no muzzle threads or lug, just like the real HK but then no suppressor use and I have a 3 lug but use them on the other two.
Link Posted: 7/2/2022 2:37:01 AM EDT
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Boy do I wish they made an SD model, or an A3 stock.

...or more of the 556 models.
Link Posted: 7/2/2022 2:57:12 AM EDT
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The M is rather cool in that it has no muzzle threads or lug, just like the real HK but then no suppressor use and I have a 3 lug but use them on the other two.
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Not everything needs a suppressor.  MP5K's are cool.
Link Posted: 7/2/2022 3:15:41 AM EDT
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Not everything needs a suppressor.  MP5K's are cool.
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The M is rather cool in that it has no muzzle threads or lug, just like the real HK but then no suppressor use and I have a 3 lug but use them on the other two.


Not everything needs a suppressor.  MP5K's are cool.

Blasphemy.
Link Posted: 7/2/2022 4:09:17 AM EDT
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Not everything needs a suppressor.  MP5K's are cool.
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They are cooler “with” a suppressor

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Link Posted: 7/2/2022 6:44:53 AM EDT
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How much of a pain will it be to get an optic rail on one of these and what’s the usual cost?
Link Posted: 7/3/2022 10:36:02 PM EDT
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Plenty of low profile mounts to chose from that don't cost that much. A UTG is under $20 at Apex https://www.apexgunparts.com/utg-mp5-bi-directional-picatinny-mount-low-profile-new.html4

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 8:05:52 AM EDT
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Can the AP5 M be suppressed?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 8:25:32 AM EDT
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No.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 4:18:09 PM EDT
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My AP5-P from this sale batch shipped today.
Link Posted: 7/6/2022 7:40:20 AM EDT
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No.

Well not without a barrel replacement at least...
Link Posted: 7/6/2022 7:51:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/6/2022 12:34:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/6/2022 4:39:46 PM EDT
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Bought the full-size today

And a obsidian 9

My wallet and wife are both pissed
Link Posted: 7/6/2022 5:24:11 PM EDT
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Bought the full-size today

And a obsidian 9

My wallet and wife are both pissed
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Link please?
Link Posted: 7/6/2022 10:07:26 PM EDT
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You all have cost me some money today. Picked up the full size AP5 with brace and 2 extra mags. Really wanted the P but reading reviews it looks like some have to swap the locking piece if running suppressed. Just picked up my Obsidian 9 so ready to try it out on it. I’ve never messed with the MP5 platform so hoping it’s as good as everyone says. If so I guess my Stribog will be up for sale soon.
Link Posted: 7/6/2022 11:33:07 PM EDT
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https://atlanticfirearms.com/mke-ap5?criteria%5Bavailability%5D=&sorting%5Bprice%5D=asc

It’s a reserve order for a shipment Atlantic is expecting in 7-14 days.
Link Posted: 7/7/2022 7:54:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/7/2022 6:35:24 PM EDT
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Just purchased an AP5-P… Hard to pass up at those prices.  I plan to utilize my AAC TiRant 9S on this full time and I’ll likely SBR it.  

Question is to keep it “original” looking with the side folding HK stock and front grip or make it a little more functional with a Dakota Tactical forend and a different stock?
Link Posted: 7/7/2022 9:13:25 PM EDT
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Question is to keep it "original" looking with the side folding HK stock and front grip or make it a little more functional with a Dakota Tactical forend and a different stock?
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I really like the B&T side folders. They're comfy like an A2 stock and much lighter than the Choate folder.
I run the classic HK polymer VFGs on my K guns.

I also use a Ti-Rant 9S with the AAC 3-lug adapter and it's great.

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Link Posted: 7/8/2022 10:09:58 AM EDT
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So I have an SP5 and I'm wanting an SP5K-PDW but at 1/3 the price, I think I'm going to have to fo on an AP5-P

I'm not crazy about the SEF lower. Are these push pin or clipped and pinned lowers? Is there a straight grip/pictogram Navy style lower that will swap out with these without getting a new trigger pack?

ETA - is this the new "standard" pricing (for the time being anyway) or is this a limited time only price?
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 10:21:39 AM EDT
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So I have an SP5 and I'm wanting an SP5K-PDW but at 1/3 the price, I think I'm going to have to fo on an AP5-P

I'm not crazy about the SEF lower. Are these push pin or clipped and pinned lowers? Is there a straight grip/pictogram Navy style lower that will swap out with these without getting a new trigger pack?

ETA - is this the new "standard" pricing (for the time being anyway) or is this a limited time only price?
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They are push pin housings.......

If you want a pictogram/ambi  housing, you'll have to change your trigger pack.

A "navy" housing is not a pictogram/ambi housing ...... it's essentially a straight grip S-E-F housing, and will accept the MKE trigger pack. Easy to make from one of the G3 housings currently on the market
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 10:51:35 AM EDT
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They are push pin housings.......
If you want a pictogram/ambi  housing, you'll have to change your trigger pack.
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They are push pin housings.......
If you want a pictogram/ambi  housing, you'll have to change your trigger pack.
Yes.

A "navy" housing is not a pictogram/ambi housing
A "Navy" housing is part of the Navy trigger group, as seen below. These are all ambi, pictogram, and lack a burst mode. They were designed for the US Navy (who didn't want burst, but wanted an ambidextrous grip).

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Since it uses an ambi trigger pack (and ambi selectors), your MKE pack won't work inside it.

it's essentially a straight grip S-E-F housing, and will accept the MKE trigger pack. Easy to make from one of the G3 housings currently on the market
What's being described here is a G3 polymer SEF trigger group, which many people call "Navy style" because the grip/housing is ambidextrous like the Navy housing (as well as the ambi burst housings) and it also has 3 positions like a Navy trigger group, but it's not a Navy housing because it uses a standard polymer SEF selector (single-sided) which is exactly the same selector your MKE trigger group has in it.

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They can be modified to work with MP5s or any of the legacy HK RDB guns, so they're often sold that way. The original G3 unmodified units are relatively inexpensive (about $90) and you can modify one with a Dremel (other than the ejector swap). The .308 hammer spring is stronger than a 9mm hammer spring, but it can be swapped (or shortened and stretched, to weaken it).

You'd just need the housing though, since your MKE trigger pack and selector will go right in.
You don't want a "clipped & pinned" one since your MKE has a push pin receiver.
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 12:14:15 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 1:17:27 PM EDT
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does anyone know if the magpul lower will fit the fullsize ap5?
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 1:23:36 PM EDT
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Yes. Several are currently utilizing that setup.

Example

Link Posted: 7/8/2022 4:06:53 PM EDT
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Yes. Several are currently utilizing that setup.

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does anyone know if the magpul lower will fit the fullsize ap5?

Yes. Several are currently utilizing that setup.

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^ Beat me to it

Of course I'm not considering getting an K version now too.
Link Posted: 7/8/2022 9:53:34 PM EDT
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I grabbed this guy today for $1603 shipped. No tax. No CC fee. From family firearms. That puts me at $1403 after rebate w/ 2 mags, the sling, the case, the optic mount. Never owned a HK so I’m pretty excited.

Link Posted: 7/9/2022 10:54:23 AM EDT
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AP5M for $1082 and AP5P for $1125 at battlehawk.
Link Posted: 7/9/2022 8:02:16 PM EDT
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Can the AP5 be converted into an SD?  I already have the ported barrel, suppressor, and handguard.  Wondering if the juice would be worth the squeeze.
Link Posted: 7/9/2022 10:06:37 PM EDT
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Got my AP5 in from Family Firearms.  Very nice fit and finish, haven't shot it yet, but my Octane 9 can won't fit on the 3 lug.  Looks like the diamater between the threads and the lugs is larger than the can, will need to get it fixed.
Link Posted: 7/10/2022 12:52:07 AM EDT
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Got my AP5 in from Family Firearms.  Very nice fit and finish, haven't shot it yet, but my Octane 9 can won't fit on the 3 lug.  Looks like the diamater between the threads and the lugs is larger than the can, will need to get it fixed.
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My SilencerCo Omega 9k fits my Ap5-p perfectly.
Link Posted: 7/10/2022 8:02:42 AM EDT
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My SilencerCo Omega 9k fits my Ap5-p perfectly.
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Same setup fits as well.
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 11:04:08 AM EDT
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What reliable off the shelf ammo are y’all using?  I’m having a hard time finding 124gr +p FMJ stuff.  I found some Sig 9mm but I’ve never used it before.  Any reviews of it through these HK clones?
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 5:34:51 PM EDT
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Just ordered an AP5 at battlehawk for $1113.58 plus shipping.  Can't resist with that price. Go get them.

Yg
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 6:41:04 PM EDT
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What reliable off the shelf ammo are y’all using?  I’m having a hard time finding 124gr +p FMJ stuff.  I found some Sig 9mm but I’ve never used it before.  Any reviews of it through these HK clones?
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I’ve been running MAXXTECH
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 6:55:14 PM EDT
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What reliable off the shelf ammo are y’all using?  I’m having a hard time finding 124gr +p FMJ stuff.  I found some Sig 9mm but I’ve never used it before.  Any reviews of it through these HK clones?
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I haven't gotten any yet but I would imagine the MKE NATO 124gr would work pretty well.
Link Posted: 7/11/2022 8:01:25 PM EDT
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I haven't gotten any yet but I would imagine the MKE NATO 124gr would work pretty well.
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What reliable off the shelf ammo are y'all using?  I'm having a hard time finding 124gr +p FMJ stuff.  I found some Sig 9mm but I've never used it before.  Any reviews of it through these HK clones?


I haven't gotten any yet but I would imagine the MKE NATO 124gr would work pretty well.

You don't need +p technically, try NATO spec like the MKE mentioned. It's good ammo

Here's a good price for 1000 rounds of 124gr NATO spec MKE ammo. This is the ammo I generally use if I can't get Winchester.

I've purchased from them before with no issues.

Rivertown Munitions
Link Posted: 7/12/2022 6:36:59 PM EDT
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I ordered a full-size today. I think I ave a bunch of the strait mags in a box somewhere.
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