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Posted: 3/30/2003 12:04:03 PM EDT
Has anybody here ever heard of the PTR-91? It seems to be a US clone of the HK 91. It looks like an alright rifle, but it is new and I am wondering if anybody has one. If you do, does it have any reliability or disassembly problems?
Here is the advertising site.
JLD Enterprises: PTR-91

Thanks,
Patrick
Link Posted: 3/30/2003 12:36:46 PM EDT
I PUT ONE IN LAY AWAY AT A LOCAL DEALER. HE LET ME TAKE IT APART BEFORE I PUT ANY MONEY DOWN. THE BOLT AND BOLT CARRIER ARE MARKED HK. THE STOCK IS A LITTLE CHEAP, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE A DECENT RIFLE FOR THE MONEY. I WILL PROBABLY PICK IT UP IN 3 OR 4 WEEKS. I WILL POST HOW IT SHOOTS.
Link Posted: 3/30/2003 1:03:35 PM EDT
I'd really like to buy one of those.
Link Posted: 3/30/2003 10:50:30 PM EDT
how much was it?
Link Posted: 3/31/2003 8:54:13 PM EDT
The shop/range I frequent in Belleville, IL (Belleville Shooting Range) just ordered two of them. The folks that ordered them want to make MSG-90/PSG-1 clones. I hope it works out for them. The shop manager told me that the reviews he has seen are VERY positive, and H&K folks attending the SHOT Show were amazed by the quality of this gun.
Link Posted: 3/31/2003 10:33:21 PM EDT
was it able to do 1 moa?
Link Posted: 4/1/2003 5:48:13 AM EDT
Damn you are getting me excited

How much is this? If it can hold 1.5-2 MOA and is reliable I'm definetely buying this rifle, provided it is under $1250. This is a battle rifle, not a match rifle anyways.

But its not chrome lined like Hk91's barrel, is it? (or is Hk91's barrel not chrome lined?)
Link Posted: 4/1/2003 11:25:04 PM EDT
it's a match rifle. PTR-91(ptr = precision target rifle) so it should do at least 1 moa. I'm hoping it holds a 1 moa guarantee. remember the sr9s were old about 1k themselves when they were available for importation..
Link Posted: 4/2/2003 3:57:34 AM EDT
So what's the median price on one of these?
Link Posted: 4/2/2003 7:52:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2003 7:53:31 AM EDT by MaverickMkii]
Originally Posted By alligator:
it's a match rifle. PTR-91(ptr = precision target rifle)

Damn.

It shouldn't be reliable in the field and I cannot play with it roughly then.
Link Posted: 4/2/2003 9:22:17 AM EDT
There is one for sale, with pics, on www.hk91.com for $775, I think. Looks like a nice rifle.

Keep in mind you can find Greek SAR8s in the $1000 range, which is damn near a German gun in quality.
Link Posted: 4/2/2003 1:55:08 PM EDT
so does anyone know the full accuracy potential of the weapon?
Link Posted: 4/12/2003 2:01:08 PM EDT
Don't know about accuracy or anything but I saw 3 of these today at a gun show. Price was $769 to $995. Finish looked perfect.

TheMao - your from Belleville, Il. Small world, thats my home town, class of 71. How are things there nowdays? I think I might have been to the Belleville range once. Is that the indoor one?
Link Posted: 4/12/2003 2:12:32 PM EDT
SteyrAUG is running a limited group buy on these.

The price is $885 + $25 shipping. There are only a few left.
Link Posted: 4/12/2003 2:47:15 PM EDT
Even fewer now.
Link Posted: 4/13/2003 2:14:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/13/2003 4:37:23 PM EDT
Is this reliable? Like, is the barrel chrome lined or something (or do they chrome lined real deal G3s at all?)

Man if I'm going to get a battle rifle, this one will be the first when I get the DAMN money.
Link Posted: 4/13/2003 5:32:27 PM EDT
www.edssportshop.com
Had one at a gun show in PA this weekend for $895.
Link Posted: 4/15/2003 6:02:37 PM EDT
My local shop has one. I checked it out today. The fit and finish on the gun looks perfect. Nicest welds I have seen on ANY H&K style receiver I have seen. The price was $895.
Link Posted: 4/16/2003 8:56:51 AM EDT
I PICKED UP MY PTR 91 RIFLE LAST FRIDAY. I WENT TO THE RANGE THIS MORNING. IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF LONG AGO WHEN I OWNED AN HK91. I FIRED APPROX. 300 ROUNDS OF VARIOUS SURPLUS AMMUNITION WITH ONLY ONE MALFUNCTION. THAT WAS WHEN THE RIFLE WAS EXTREMELY DIRTY. THE EMPTY FAILED TO COMPLETELY EJECT. THE REST OF THE MAGAZINE FIRED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
ACCURACY AT 50 YARDS WAS AMAZING. I COULD KEEP ALL TWENTY ROUNDS IN A MAGAZINE WITHIN A 2 INCH CIRCLE. THIS WAS USING MY RANGE BAG AS A REST.
Link Posted: 4/16/2003 11:40:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2003 11:40:27 AM EDT by MaverickMkii]
Thats pretty combat-accurate
Is the barrel chrome lined?

ME WANT! ME WANT!
Link Posted: 4/16/2003 3:17:33 PM EDT
Come on, guys! I created this thread to hear some reviews of this rifle. So far I only have one. Help me out here !

Thanks,
Patrick
Link Posted: 4/18/2003 5:28:13 PM EDT
I'll post a review as soon as mine gets in!

What is your deadline for buying/not buying one?
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 8:30:01 AM EDT
markm, the deadline is.... probably the end of next month I have lots of time...

Thank you,
Patrick
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 3:20:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 3:20:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 4:02:33 PM EDT

ACCURACY AT 50 YARDS WAS AMAZING. I COULD KEEP ALL TWENTY ROUNDS IN A MAGAZINE WITHIN A 2 INCH CIRCLE. THIS WAS USING MY RANGE BAG AS A REST.


I'm sorry but I don't count shooting a battlerifle at 50yds my SKS can shoot that well at 50yds....any battlre rifle can shoot that small of groups at that close range.... try 200yds or longer.. THAT will tell if the rifle is accurate or not
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 7:07:45 PM EDT
Local shop has them for $799.99, are they worth it? Same shop sells CETME's for $349.99. Are the PTR-91's worth more than 2 Century built CETME's?

OSA
Link Posted: 4/19/2003 8:12:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/20/2003 6:36:02 AM EDT
Thanks, SteyrAug! That is the way a report should be.

Any more opinions?

Patrick
Link Posted: 4/20/2003 8:37:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 9:12:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:



2. Anyone with a SKS should be bludgeoned to death with a wiffle ball bat.






Hey, I own an SKS
Link Posted: 4/21/2003 2:36:00 PM EDT
So this will be a wise purchase if a HK91 type rifle is wanted?

I have a CETME, it's an OK rifle, but dislike the rear sight. I didn't have the many problems that other owners complained about.

OSA

Link Posted: 4/21/2003 3:04:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 6:49:29 AM EDT
Mine had great fit and finish but would not extract PMC ball ammo.

I have already sent it back I will let you know what customer service does with this.
I suspect the fluting was not cut to the correct depth because it took a beating on that cocking handle to force the case from the chamber my hand is still sore.
BTW the cocking handle is tough.:)
Link Posted: 4/28/2003 7:46:07 PM EDT
CDNN has them in stock for $749
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 8:15:13 AM EDT
Group buy price at $885 +$25 sounds like a group gouging to me. My dealer got mine through CDNN plus their markup and I walked out the door with it at $825.
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 9:32:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 1:21:22 PM EDT
SteyrAug,

Have you done any type of "torture tests" to PTR-91 you have? Or just shoot some 500 rounds through that thing?

I consider 2" at 100 yard is good enough, but I'd like to see some reliability.

Thanks
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 1:36:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 2:04:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 2:15:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 2:33:37 PM EDT
Someone is selling an accurized HK91 with polygon barrel at GunsAmerica so it must be very accurate?
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 3:54:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 3:56:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 7:29:49 PM EDT
Steyr Claus left me a present today!
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 11:14:25 PM EDT
Is the barrel on the MSG-90 chrome lined? I know the PTR-91 is not chrome lined however.

SteyrAug sir, post that reliability report as soon as you get the chance!

Thanks!
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 2:15:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 5:45:30 PM EDT
What is the skinny on Mags? Alluminums are 3 bucks new, and steel are 5 bucks rusty? I have some of both and the steel are way more robust.

Are alluminums worth owning?
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 7:48:13 PM EDT
Aluminum mags are just fine. Get lots of both!
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 8:26:02 PM EDT
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