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Posted: 1/12/2006 4:48:03 PM EDT
How reliable is it? Compared to the AK47, AR15, Garand, etc.
What about accuracy?
How good are the iron sights? Are they better than the AR?
Anything else a newbie-to-M1A's should know?

I was going to get a Garand, but I decided I'll get an M1A instead. I want to do a build it yourself thing, which I assume will be cheaper, and allows me to get USGI parts. About how much would you guys estimate it would cost to go the build it yourself route? I don't want anything fancy. Just iron sights and something that works and is decently accurate.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 4:59:45 PM EDT

someone pointed this out to me earlier in a similar thread I started:

www.m-14forum.com/


I'm still going thru it.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 5:34:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chicken_little:
How reliable is it? Compared to the AK47, AR15, Garand, etc.
What about accuracy?
How good are the iron sights? Are they better than the AR?
Anything else a newbie-to-M1A's should know?

I was going to get a Garand, but I decided I'll get an M1A instead. I want to do a build it yourself thing, which I assume will be cheaper, and allows me to get USGI parts. About how much would you guys estimate it would cost to go the build it yourself route? I don't want anything fancy. Just iron sights and something that works and is decently accurate.



It's my main squeeze.

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 5:35:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Different:
It's my main squeeze.



Is there something in that selector cut?
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 6:08:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 6:09:32 PM EDT by H2O_MAN]

Originally Posted By Different:
It's my main squeeze.


I liked "Reptilian Alien Defense SHTF M1A"



Originally Posted By chicken_little:
Anything else a newbie-to-M1A's should know?



Visit my web page I have links to 4 other M14/M1A forums, Different's M1A site and more.

My main squeeze ~

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:36:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kk7sm:

Originally Posted By Different:
It's my main squeeze.



Is there something in that selector cut?



Not for that receiver but there would be if I used the full auto receiver.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:55:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 7:57:53 PM EDT by fxntime]

Originally Posted By chicken_little:
How reliable is it? Compared to the AK47, AR15, Garand, etc.
What about accuracy?
How good are the iron sights? Are they better than the AR?
Anything else a newbie-to-M1A's should know?

I was going to get a Garand, but I decided I'll get an M1A instead. I want to do a build it yourself thing, which I assume will be cheaper, and allows me to get USGI parts. About how much would you guys estimate it would cost to go the build it yourself route? I don't want anything fancy. Just iron sights and something that works and is decently accurate.



DON"T go with the build it yourself thing. Start pricing USGI parts first, then quickly realize you are MUCH better off looking for an older SA with mostly all GI parts. You will be much happier.
I just bought my first M1A about 2 months ago. SA ALL USGI parts, 5 GI mags, very low round count, nice wood, Preban, plus almost 1K of ammo for it for $1250. GI parts alone would have run 800 to 1000 EASY from what I have already seen if I had to buy them. [Maybe more, ask Different, he would know] Plus you would have to buy all the tools to set it up. I doubt you would save a dime in the end and you would spend a lot of time trying to find parts also, not to mention bidding on some of them, losing, and trying all over.

No it's not BETTER then a GOOD AR, but it is different, was designed for a different kind of war and still works very well. Remember, it's a Main battle rifle, not an Assault rifle, they are quite another beast. I like em. A good one seems to hold it's value quite well also.

Oh and Different, thats an UGLY M1A!!!!! Send it to me for disposal immediately to save your eyesight, I'll take a chance with mine.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:16:27 AM EDT
It is built for a different purpose than the M16/AR15.

At 300 meters, 7.62 still retains more ft/pds energy than 5.56 does at the muzzle. I've personally observed 7.62 rds that punch thru 10x10 wooden railroad ties at 500 meters like they were Buttah -- Buttah I tell ya!
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 6:06:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
I've personally observed 7.62 rds that punch thru 10x10 wooden railroad ties at 500 meters like they were Buttah -- Buttah I tell ya!


Nothing personal, friend:

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 1:00:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
I've personally observed 7.62 rds that punch thru 10x10 wooden railroad ties at 500 meters like they were Buttah -- Buttah I tell ya!


Nothing personal, friend:




I hear you, but I hung the target at 500m, shot it, and saw the exit holes when I examined the target.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 1:20:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
I've personally observed 7.62 rds that punch thru 10x10 wooden railroad ties at 500 meters like they were Buttah -- Buttah I tell ya!


Nothing personal, friend:




I hear you, but I hung the target at 500m, shot it, and saw the exit holes when I examined the target.



When I first got my Scout I set up a steel plate @ 75 yards.
I made sure an 18" live oak was directly between the target and me.
Every round of Porto ball ammo passed through the tree and hit steel.

The rounds went through the tree like it was “Buttah”
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 3:16:30 PM EDT
Way too many variables concerning bullet penetration in wood to get into a dick wagging contest about it. I've been surprised both ways when it comes to what bullets, big and small, will and will not penetrate. I will say the whole "turns cover into concealment" line is getting a bit overused by some of us 7.62 fans. It's not like comparing a .22LR to a .50 BMG. If you go for the 7.62 for its ability to turn cover into concealment, good luck carrying enough ammo to make up for needing several rounds to punch thru obstacles that our beloved round didn't go through like "buttah."

Oh yeah , to address the original questions.
1. Of the designslisted, only the AK can top it for reliability. And they're all at the level it's more theoretically important than anything.
2. Depends on the build. From sniper worthy match grade builds to rack grades that still shoot better than most of us.
3. Awesome sights. Best of any military rifle fielded, including the AR/M16 family.
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