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Posted: 11/8/2005 12:28:05 PM EDT
Anyone running a 1.25-4 Accupoint on their M1A? I know they have pretty long eye relief so I am curious how far forward they have to be mounted on the M1A. If anyone has a photo they could post it would help. Thanks
Link Posted: 11/8/2005 2:17:40 PM EDT
After reading the posts around here, I too am seriously considering the TR21/TR21R or Leupold MR/T SPR for use with a M1A Scout Squad. I would like to hear opinions on this combination as well...
Link Posted: 11/8/2005 2:49:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/8/2005 2:49:24 PM EDT by 0612Devil]
I wanted to test this option as well. I tried one of those (yeah, i know it ain't a leupold) cheapo simmons 1.5-5x variables on my LRB. Unfortunately (to me) the eye relief was way too short at around 4x-5x. Maybe it was just me... I've gone back to my aimpoint...
Link Posted: 11/9/2005 9:04:34 AM EDT
can you provide any insight on your scope mount/rings etc...? I have on order an SEI Scope mount, and there is a guy who is selling either the Trijicon or the Leupold w/LaRue SPR/SPR-E mounts. As this is my first scoped weapon, I want to do it as close to right the first time, due to budgetary restrictions (wife owns the credit card).
Link Posted: 11/9/2005 9:16:00 AM EDT
at 1.25x you need approximately 4.5" eye relief. at 4x you need approximately 3.5" eye relief.

mounting an Accupoint on the Scout barrel mount will not work.
with a receiver mount(SEI, Brookfield, ARMS, Sadlak) use the LaRue SPR mount. with a Sage stock use the LaRue SPR-E mount.

FWIW, the Navy uses the TR21/TR22 with the SPR-E mount on their MK14s.
Link Posted: 11/9/2005 1:54:34 PM EDT
Iwas using the Smith NSN mount, ARMS Medium 30mm rings with 1in adaptors. Karsten's cheekpiece. (I'm not sure how to explain this too well, but here goes) I ran out of rearward movement of the scope on the mount using regular rings, (maybe an inverted spr mount would work) Bench rested, it was uncomfortable to shoot. I was flinching like crazy after he scope bumped my glasses a few times. Keep in mind this is a 50 dollar simmons. I think the boys in Iraq are using said Leupold setup. Not sure about the specifics of their setup though...
Link Posted: 11/10/2005 11:32:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2005 11:42:52 AM EDT by lcsert416]
I would think the SPR mount on top of a ARMS #18 scope mount would raise the scope a little too high for my tastes. Would I have to run a cantelever mount or is there enough room on an ARMS #18 to obtain proper eye relief with a set of regular rings? I am running a NXS 2.5-10 in Arms low mounts and don't need a cheek piece and want to keep it that way. I just also want something with less magnification and a better FOV and can't wait for the NXS 1-4 so I thought I would try the Accupoint. I would also like to know where the eyepiece sits in relation to the rear sight when properly mounted.
Link Posted: 11/12/2005 8:10:02 PM EDT
I'll have one on my M1A by this time next week Range report should follow soon after
Link Posted: 11/13/2005 10:14:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/13/2005 10:14:54 AM EDT by lcsert416]

Originally Posted By QuinlanV:
I'll have one on my M1A by this time next week Range report should follow soon after


I will be standing by, waiting to hear what you think.
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 2:30:07 PM EDT
I was interested in the same set up, namely a Trijicon Accupoint TR21 1.5-4x on an M1A SOCOM forward scout mount rail; according to Mark Larue at Larue Tactical, their model SPR-E was made specifically for this kind of application! Sounds interesting, and I plan to give it a shot in the future...
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 3:53:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By QuinlanV:
I'll have one on my M1A by this time next week Range report should follow soon after




You better link me to that range report
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 4:17:39 PM EDT
Well I found out the ARMS 18 is not long enough for proper eye relief. I don't want to use a cantelever riser so I may try a Smith mount. I saw the post about the scout mount and the SPR-EE, I am not so sure this would project the scope far enough back. I know it would work great on a Sage stock as I saw a pic of a Navy rifle in this set up.
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 9:33:18 PM EDT
AR15kittykat has one on his M1A. It's a pretty sweet set up, he should be able to answer your questions.
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 10:42:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lcsert416:
Well I found out the ARMS 18 is not long enough for proper eye relief. I don't want to use a cantelever riser so I may try a Smith mount. I saw the post about the scout mount and the SPR-EE, I am not so sure this would project the scope far enough back. I know it would work great on a Sage stock as I saw a pic of a Navy rifle in this set up.



I found out the same thing. The eye relief was way too long for my rig. Especially since I have the short LOP stock. Greatly disappointing since the optic is extremely nice. I am now leaning towards a compact ACOG with the low special ring mount.
Link Posted: 12/3/2005 6:38:39 AM EDT
That was my next choice as well. I went back to the smith mount and it looks like it has enough forward space for proper eye relief. When I get it set up I'll post a pic.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 12:02:45 PM EDT
Not sure if this will help you but the new SEI M14 ACOG/MIL STD 1913 Scope Mount, NSN 1005-01-535-4430, P/N 2005, when available to civilians, may be what you need. However, getting one in light of current mil requirements, may be tough for a while.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 9:38:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CaliBear13:
After reading the posts around here, I too am seriously considering the TR21/TR21R or Leupold MR/T SPR for use with a M1A Scout Squad. I would like to hear opinions on this combination as well...



I ran this setup for quite awhile custom leupy 1.5-5


It worked well, But the rifle has since been reworked into a 18" med-hvy Douglas barreled EBR clone and Ive went back to running an Eotech.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:05:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 10:07:14 AM EDT by lcsert416]
I got mine set up. The Accupoint works great on the gun.
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