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Posted: 3/26/2015 7:45:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaPaul:
I think he's referencing the 1.48 to 1.50 step in the middle... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaPaul:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Going to look a little odd with that extra step, without any kind of millwork in one of the sections. But it should be fairly light. I'm not following... Amy said their tubes are 1.500" so I wouldn't touch the area over the threads with a 0.200" buffer. The area over the blast chamber is going to be a little thicker, 1.480" OD probably out of paranoia, and then the area over the baffle stack will be 1.450" Hope that clarifies AP got it. Your drawing was clear...I knew exactly what you were saying. I did my Apogee tubes in between the threads. They look somewhat similar to a Ti-Rant. Yours are going to step down just past the threads, then step down again after the blast chamber, then back up at the other threads. There many cans that step down after the blast chamber (my Sakers and YHM LT all do), but none of them ramp back up at the end. And all of those have some type of millwork in the thicker area, like grips/grooves/dimples/whatever you want to call them. Granted...probably look a lot better when finished a darker color instead of raw SS or Ti. |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 8:15:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Gotcha. So you're saying it may not be terribly asethitically pleasing.
Now I'm trackin' I posted this in the $250 F1 thread because it will get professional engraving and cerakote in addition to other creature comforts |
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Posted: 3/26/2015 8:32:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Gotcha. So you're saying it may not be terribly asethitically pleasing. Now I'm trackin' I posted this in the $250 F1 thread because it will get professional engraving and cerakote in addition to other creature comforts Yeah, just odd. But...if it sounds good, who cares? 
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Posted: 3/26/2015 8:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Yeah, just odd. But...if it sounds good, who cares? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
Gotcha. So you're saying it may not be terribly asethitically pleasing. Now I'm trackin' I posted this in the $250 F1 thread because it will get professional engraving and cerakote in addition to other creature comforts Yeah, just odd. But...if it sounds good, who cares? Well that then begs the question of if it's necessary to have a thicker area over the blast baffle... |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 11:47:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: This is the sketch I plan to provide the machinist to turn down a 7.6" SDTA SS tube. Any thoughts? The SDTA D-cell tubes are carbon steel, not Stainless Steel. The blast chamber area, in my unscientific opinion, does not need to be thicker because you will use a spacer insert. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:22:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I would leave it thicker around the blast chamber, but I would NOT take it back to full thickness around the threads at the far end. I would take it to the 1.450" after the blast chamber and leave it narrow through the end. There is very little pressure remaining at the far end (relatively speaking). Going larger diameter around the far threads isn't necessary. I think it would look cleaner with the smaller diameter carried through.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:37:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Now it's getting out of hand! Still got a form1 pending, and gonna submit another. I got another piece of scrap Ti64. Thanks to JohnnyO223, he inspired me on making a reflex style. I'm thinking OAL somewhere between 9-10", with a reflex over the barrel 4-5".
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:38:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overton-AR:
I would leave it thicker around the blast chamber, but I would NOT take it back to full thickness around the threads at the far end. I would take it to the 1.450" after the blast chamber and leave it narrow through the end. There is very little pressure remaining at the far end (relatively speaking). Going larger diameter around the far threads isn't necessary. I think it would look cleaner with the smaller diameter carried through. Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 2:49:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sudoshi:
Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sudoshi:
Originally Posted By Overton-AR:
I would leave it thicker around the blast chamber, but I would NOT take it back to full thickness around the threads at the far end. I would take it to the 1.450" after the blast chamber and leave it narrow through the end. There is very little pressure remaining at the far end (relatively speaking). Going larger diameter around the far threads isn't necessary. I think it would look cleaner with the smaller diameter carried through. Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. Yikes. I'm not drunk enough to comprehend that one... |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 3:20:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lay]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Yikes. I'm not drunk enough to comprehend that one... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
Originally Posted By Sudoshi:
Originally Posted By Overton-AR:
I would leave it thicker around the blast chamber, but I would NOT take it back to full thickness around the threads at the far end. I would take it to the 1.450" after the blast chamber and leave it narrow through the end. There is very little pressure remaining at the far end (relatively speaking). Going larger diameter around the far threads isn't necessary. I think it would look cleaner with the smaller diameter carried through. Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. Yikes. I'm not drunk enough to comprehend that one... Basically I think what he is saying is that the baffle stack is having pressure applied to it towards the exit from the muzzle blast(basically the stack is trying to be pushed out of the end of the can) and having reduced threads at the end cap may cause problems with longevity. IE thread deformation/separation from the wall being too thin at the threads. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 6:13:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sudoshi:
Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sudoshi:
Originally Posted By Overton-AR:
I would leave it thicker around the blast chamber, but I would NOT take it back to full thickness around the threads at the far end. I would take it to the 1.450" after the blast chamber and leave it narrow through the end. There is very little pressure remaining at the far end (relatively speaking). Going larger diameter around the far threads isn't necessary. I think it would look cleaner with the smaller diameter carried through. Well you also have to remember that all your inner components are not mounted. The end cap has to support the lateral force transfered by the FPs and spacers. You are right Sudoshi....I hadn't considered the lateral force. As the can "soots" up that lateral force will diminish, but it may not be worth the risk of waiting. |
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Posted: 3/27/2015 8:01:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lilpooh:
Now it's getting out of hand! Still got a form1 pending, and gonna submit another. I got another piece of scrap Ti64. Thanks to JohnnyO223, he inspired me on making a reflex style. I'm thinking OAL somewhere between 9-10", with a reflex over the barrel 4-5". <a href="http://s598.photobucket.com/user/lilpooh6l/media/60505C1F-D44B-467F-82E5-650F086BBA2E.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/lilpooh6l/60505C1F-D44B-467F-82E5-650F086BBA2E.jpg</a> You're welcome 
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Posted: 3/27/2015 8:29:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overton-AR:
You are right Sudoshi....I hadn't considered the lateral force. As the can "soots" up that lateral force will diminish, but it may not be worth the risk of waiting. Yea, its not nothing. Just don't want people to get the impression that the end thickness doesn't matter. Just be generous when doing these mods. Although, odds are, that it will be safe as long as your endcap on the barrel end is strong. Worst case, it will just shoot out the end and make a good endcap/freeze plug launcher. Seems fairly safe for the most part. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 1:32:08 PM EDT
[#14]
I used a 4" angle grinder with a used blade. Took all of 3 seconds to do and the cutting wheel has a natural round edge and width to make the notch in my VSR's so it looks like it was done with a end mill which I don't have access to. Not a direct help for you but if you know a guy or have access to a angle grinder for a couple of minutes it's a pretty quick job. For the notches in my cones I used a 1/4" round metal file, the FP's are soft enough it doesn't take very long to do those either and it's fairly easy to keep the notch straight.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kronus92:
Second question: for those of you using a dremel to do your clipping on VSRs, what was the best way to keep the clipping centered? I don't have access to a mill or anything similar, but I don't want this to look like a half-assed job with the rest of the build being fairly nice. If it helps me get answers, I promise to provide pictures as soon as I get this completed. 
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Posted: 3/30/2015 9:31:04 PM EDT
[#15]
To those of you using Ti tubes, how are you engraving them?
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:03:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak:
To those of you using Ti tubes, how are you engraving them? I used the guy that SDTA set up, JB Precision, good engraving and a GREAT price. I've seen a few used Tarheel State Firearms, and it looked great as well |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:08:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak:
To those of you using Ti tubes, how are you engraving them? Local guy here in Vegas. Uses a fiber laser and does it while I wait. |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 10:46:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak:
To those of you using Ti tubes, how are you engraving them? Vigor rotary engraving machine |
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Posted: 3/30/2015 11:36:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/31/2015 9:15:57 AM EDT
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Post lots of pics of the reflex. I'm very interested in doing my next one as such.
I have ideas, but want to see others. |
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Posted: 3/31/2015 12:25:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teats: Post lots of pics of the reflex. I'm very interested in doing my next one as such. I have ideas, but want to see others. I'd be curious to see any reflex designs as well. I'm considering doing it for the 9mm can I have in the works. |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 6:53:04 PM EDT
[#22]
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Posted: 4/1/2015 6:56:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2015 7:02:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/1/2015 7:28:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HK94dude]
[#25]
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Posted: 4/1/2015 9:16:04 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude: 5" TI tube, 1.625 OD, 1.48 ID, griffin mount with barrel wrench notches $250 I'm going to try my hand at a mini 4 type can Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By HK94dude: DM titanium tube porn <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0943_zpsgcdjopm0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0943_zpsgcdjopm0.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0948_zpsqdptcx7h.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0948_zpsqdptcx7h.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0947_zpsuzsvzomo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0947_zpsuzsvzomo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0949_zps71w9y0ke.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0949_zps71w9y0ke.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0950_zpsmib58x3s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0950_zpsmib58x3s.jpg</a> spill the beans specs and price? 5" TI tube, 1.625 OD, 1.48 ID, griffin mount with barrel wrench notches $250 I'm going to try my hand at a mini 4 type can Definitely like this end caps better than the knurled versions I got.  |
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Posted: 4/1/2015 9:57:09 PM EDT
[#27]
How much length does this add overall?
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Posted: 4/1/2015 11:35:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2015 11:02:16 AM EDT
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I'm trying to decide between building a Form 1 6" 556 Ti can or jumping on the $299 Trek deal. I think the costs would be comparable, but the weight savings may push me to build my own.
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Posted: 4/3/2015 6:08:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2015 6:22:50 PM EDT
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Awesome. Can you post up your specs of ID, end caps, baffle specifics and cost?
Apologies if I missed a prior post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude:
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How much length does this add overall? Originally Posted By HK94dude:
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Posted: 4/3/2015 6:41:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: Awesome. Can you post up your specs of ID, end caps, baffle specifics and cost? Apologies if I missed a prior post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goloud: Awesome. Can you post up your specs of ID, end caps, baffle specifics and cost? Apologies if I missed a prior post. Originally Posted By HK94dude: Originally Posted By forgottenben: How much length does this add overall? Originally Posted By HK94dude: DM titanium tube porn <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0943_zpsgcdjopm0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0943_zpsgcdjopm0.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0948_zpsqdptcx7h.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0948_zpsqdptcx7h.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0947_zpsuzsvzomo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0947_zpsuzsvzomo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0949_zps71w9y0ke.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0949_zps71w9y0ke.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/102_0950_zpsmib58x3s.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/102_0950_zpsmib58x3s.jpg</a> 3.25" added past muzzle brake, 7.56oz empty. I'm hoping to keep it under 13oz after adding guts. <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/7584CEA2-4E8D-4063-9000-A64F1D9BCCEB_zpsw2ncjzuq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/7584CEA2-4E8D-4063-9000-A64F1D9BCCEB_zpsw2ncjzuq.jpg</a> <a href="http://s92.photobucket.com/user/HK94dude/media/745EEFF6-FA83-474E-9522-C5D983440712_zpsw0kc7epw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/HK94dude/745EEFF6-FA83-474E-9522-C5D983440712_zpsw0kc7epw.jpg</a> 1.625 OD x 1.486 ID 5" tube with Griffin adapter, 5.437 OAL, $250. Tube weighs 4.25oz, end caps 3.31oz. No baffles for another couple weeks though  |
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Posted: 4/3/2015 6:45:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Thanks!
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Posted: 4/4/2015 2:48:18 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude:
1.625 OD x 1.486 ID 5" tube with Griffin adapter, 5.437 OAL, $250. Tube weighs 4.25oz, end caps 3.31oz. No baffles for another couple weeks though
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude:
Originally Posted By goloud:
Awesome. Can you post up your specs of ID, end caps, baffle specifics and cost? Apologies if I missed a prior post. Originally Posted By HK94dude:
Originally Posted By forgottenben:
How much length does this add overall? Originally Posted By HK94dude:
DM titanium tube porn
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What is the length of the muzzle device? Can looks nice! Cant wait to get mine in line. Gotta finish up getting my trust notarized. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:06:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:09:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Thanks, I'm in the queue for some and it's nice seeing what I'm waiting on. Not sweating it, weeks to go before the stamps come back.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK94dude:
DM titanium tube porn
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:19:28 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 3:10:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Well you are in the $250+ can thread... |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 3:48:03 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Everyone is free to do as they please but I will say, Even the cheapest SDTA builds from the outside still look nice. Why make it look like crap with a hand done job when I am going to have it for the rest of my life? |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:01:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shawnson:
Everyone is free to do as they please but I will say, Even the cheapest SDTA builds from the outside still look nice. Why make it look like crap with a hand done job when I am going to have it for the rest of my life? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shawnson:
Originally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Everyone is free to do as they please but I will say, Even the cheapest SDTA builds from the outside still look nice. Why make it look like crap with a hand done job when I am going to have it for the rest of my life? Because instead of paying an extra $50 for an engraving that's now going to my next can. Again, if you want a nice can with a professional engraving why make a freeze plug or VR suppressor? That is just nonsense IMO. I'm all for a good looking engraving and things done professionally... when I buy an $900 Saker 7.62 with baffles that will last a lifetime.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:31:44 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Because instead of paying an extra $50 for an engraving that's now going to my next can. Again, if you want a nice can with a professional engraving why make a freeze plug or VR suppressor? That is just nonsense IMO. I'm all for a good looking engraving and things done professionally... when I buy an $900 Saker 7.62 with baffles that will last a lifetime.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Shawnson:
Originally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Everyone is free to do as they please but I will say, Even the cheapest SDTA builds from the outside still look nice. Why make it look like crap with a hand done job when I am going to have it for the rest of my life? Because instead of paying an extra $50 for an engraving that's now going to my next can. Again, if you want a nice can with a professional engraving why make a freeze plug or VR suppressor? That is just nonsense IMO. I'm all for a good looking engraving and things done professionally... when I buy an $900 Saker 7.62 with baffles that will last a lifetime.Engraving can cost as little as $25, it's not like it's doubling the cost of these form 1 builds. To think spending a few extra dollars on nicer engraving negates the effects of building a freeze plug suppressor and makes it nonsense is pretty asinine. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 10:36:33 PM EDT
[#42]
To each their own I guess. I don't see the point. If i was never going to buy a commercial can and this was it and I wanted to make it as nice as possible then I can see it I guess. For me, it's pointless.
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Posted: 4/4/2015 11:00:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
[#43]
Any of you guys have a DM price list for their products? I should have approved stamps here in about a week, and I want to start ordering parts. SDTA's out of stock on all the Ti tubes I want.
Of course I'm also tossing around the idea of buying a mini mill and mini lathe now too....which averaged out across 5 suppressors with tooling and what not would start me out at the $250+ mark before I even get the raw materials |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 11:14:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dskeet]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Because instead of paying an extra $50 for an engraving that's now going to my next can. Again, if you want a nice can with a professional engraving why make a freeze plug or VR suppressor? That is just nonsense IMO. I'm all for a good looking engraving and things done professionally... when I buy an $900 Saker 7.62 with baffles that will last a lifetime.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Shawnson:
Originally Posted By rfroese:
Originally Posted By Tophatman:
Heh, ditto. I printed out my information and then taped it to the tube then just used the engraver to get rid of the letters on the paper. It came out about as well as you can expect a hand held engraver to do. $8 as a one time fee versus multiple $45 (cheapest I could source locally) engraving costs was full of win for me. Originally Posted By rfroese:
Looks like a child wrote it but I don't care. It works and it's legal. That's all I care about and yes this is a titanium tube. I used an $8 engraver from harbor freight. http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-engraver-46099.html Same here. What's the point in spending $50 on a $150 can? If i wanted it to be pretty and neat I would've just bought a commercial can. I still plan on buying one eventually but for now this suits my needs perfectly. Everyone is free to do as they please but I will say, Even the cheapest SDTA builds from the outside still look nice. Why make it look like crap with a hand done job when I am going to have it for the rest of my life? Because instead of paying an extra $50 for an engraving that's now going to my next can. Again, if you want a nice can with a professional engraving why make a freeze plug or VR suppressor? That is just nonsense IMO. I'm all for a good looking engraving and things done professionally... when I buy an $900 Saker 7.62 with baffles that will last a lifetime.I wouldn't say it's nonsense when one can build a $350 titanium Form 1 can that works just as well as a $1000 commercial can. You can have cheap and nice in the same Form 1 package. At the end of the day, I'm really not worried about saving $22 by doing the engraving with a harbor freight engraver
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Posted: 4/4/2015 11:19:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Any of you guys have a DM price list for their products? I should have approved stamps here in about a week, and I want to start ordering parts. SDTA's out of stock on all the Ti tubes I want. Of course I'm also tossing around the idea of buying a mini mill and mini lathe now too....which averaged out across 5 suppressors with tooling and what not would start me out at the $250+ mark before I even get the raw materials
There isn't a real price list, because it's all custom made to order based on whatever specs you want (tube length, material, diameter, etc). End caps are about the only thing with a static price. Everything else.. email him and tell him what you want, and he gives you the price. |
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Posted: 4/4/2015 11:30:57 PM EDT
[#46]
I don't understand the $30 savings on bice engraving either. Especially when your $300 can sounds better than your $1000 can.
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Posted: 4/5/2015 11:05:29 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rfroese:
To each their own I guess. I don't see the point. If i was never going to buy a commercial can and this was it and I wanted to make it as nice as possible then I can see it I guess. For me, it's pointless. Well this thread exists for the those of us who want our Form 1 cans to be as good as or better than the factory cans. My form 1 can on page 1 of this thread out performs my factory GemTech Quicksand which is a $1200+ suppressor. If you want to consider your Form 1 as a "temporary" solution that is fine, but most of us in this thread DO NOT. We are striving for the best, and not looking at pinching pennies. There is another thread for building form 1 suppressors as cheaply as possible. It should be easy to find....its about 170 pages now. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 3:26:40 PM EDT
[#48]
I don't plan on having my can engraved professionally, it's not that I'm cheap, it's the matter of me making a can that I did all the work. For me it's a self pride and accomplishment.
I do plan on stamping my tube. That way when someone asks about it, I can brag how I made the entire suppressor. It's all personal preference, some members like a professional look, others like the home build look. Anyway, back to the thread topic. According to forum talk times of ATF approvals, I'm about 10 days away from approval. I was playing around with the MP35n bar material for the blast baffle. Just facing off the end of the bar, I'm gonna have to flood the shit out of the carbide insert for my cuts. If this MP35n gets to be a bitch to turn on the lathe, I've got a bar or Inconel 718 on stand-by. I'm still collecting Titanium bar from ebay, just need a couple more scrap cuts for cheap. |
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Posted: 4/5/2015 6:41:26 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overton-AR:
Well this thread exists for the those of us who want our Form 1 cans to be as good as or better than the factory cans. My form 1 can on page 1 of this thread out performs my factory GemTech Quicksand which is a $1200+ suppressor. If you want to consider your Form 1 as a "temporary" solution that is fine, but most of us in this thread DO NOT. We are striving for the best, and not looking at pinching pennies. There is another thread for building form 1 suppressors as cheaply as possible. It should be easy to find....its about 170 pages now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overton-AR:
Originally Posted By rfroese:
To each their own I guess. I don't see the point. If i was never going to buy a commercial can and this was it and I wanted to make it as nice as possible then I can see it I guess. For me, it's pointless. Well this thread exists for the those of us who want our Form 1 cans to be as good as or better than the factory cans. My form 1 can on page 1 of this thread out performs my factory GemTech Quicksand which is a $1200+ suppressor. If you want to consider your Form 1 as a "temporary" solution that is fine, but most of us in this thread DO NOT. We are striving for the best, and not looking at pinching pennies. There is another thread for building form 1 suppressors as cheaply as possible. It should be easy to find....its about 170 pages now. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2015 6:47:42 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lilpooh:
I don't plan on having my can engraved professionally, it's not that I'm cheap, it's the matter of me making a can that I did all the work. For me it's a self pride and accomplishment. |
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