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Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg how the hell do i get one of those? one of my armorers works for Sig but on the pistol line, i yelled at him last month to find out how i can get one..... nothing yet. |
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Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg That muzzle brake looks mighty easy to Form 1 into a can. Do Want! |
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Originally Posted By tojan19:
Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg That muzzle brake looks mighty easy to Form 1 into a can. Do Want! I read that Sig sells the already marked tube and it's already threaded externally at the base for their tube once your form 4 is approved. Pay Sig,pay ATF, get stamp approved, receive tube, attach and shoot quietly. |
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Originally Posted By NWRed:
Originally Posted By tojan19:
Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg That muzzle brake looks mighty easy to Form 1 into a can. Do Want! I read that Sig sells the already marked tube and it's already threaded externally at the base for their tube once your form 4 is approved. Pay Sig,pay ATF, get stamp approved, receive tube, attach and shoot quietly. Wonder how the ATF feels about that, as the muzzle brake would also be considered the baffle stack, and silencer part=silencer according to the ATF. |
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Originally Posted By MHIDPA:
Wonder how the ATF feels about that, as the muzzle brake would also be considered the baffle stack, and silencer part=silencer according to the ATF. Pretty sure they're OK with it since SIG is selling it. Tecnically it's not a silencer part until its housed inside a silncer, it's a loudener all by itself "The MPX that SIG Sauer Academy instructor Adam Painchaud showed Defense Review was actually the SIG MPX-C model outfitted with a muzzle brake that can be converted into nifty muzzle can (silencer/sound suppressor) once the suppressor housing/tube and end cap are added and screwed into place." Linky |
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Originally Posted By tojan19:
Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg That muzzle brake looks mighty easy to Form 1 into a can. Do Want! yep.. I need one of them muzzle treatments.. I'll roll my own housing |
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Originally Posted By rangermonroe:
and Obama might turn out to be a good President, and skittles might fly out of my ass and turn into unicorn seeds. All are equally likely. |
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Originally Posted By CountryHam:
Finally finished my form 1 .22 can, thanks for the ideas everyone. http://minus.com/jFPRyqBvUJ7OW.jpg http://minus.com/jVt4TpXPDvTmZ.jpg http://minus.com/joeapj5E9FH2y.jpg http://minus.com/jq0xW4BDPO0aZ.jpg View Quote Nice work How does it sound? |
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Originally Posted By strycnine:
Nice work How does it sound? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By strycnine:
Originally Posted By CountryHam:
Finally finished my form 1 .22 can, thanks for the ideas everyone. http://minus.com/jFPRyqBvUJ7OW.jpg http://minus.com/jVt4TpXPDvTmZ.jpg http://minus.com/joeapj5E9FH2y.jpg http://minus.com/jq0xW4BDPO0aZ.jpg Nice work How does it sound? Thanks! It's pretty quite, I only have an AAC prodigy to compare it. I dont have a way to measure it but they sound very close. |
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Originally Posted By YaMaMa:
First home built! .22/.223 suppressor. 2" Stainless steel with freeze plugs. Welded on both ends with SS ar welder. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/YaMaMa315/DE8CE49D-BCCB-4B72-8740-C17816B59A02-11892-00000CBADA6A9BE3_zps648cadda.jpg Bad pic I know, will post some more soon. View Quote what did you do for your threaded end cap? i am finishing mine up this the last thing i need to do. |
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Originally Posted By This_Guy:
what did you do for your threaded end cap? i am finishing mine up this the last thing i need to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By This_Guy:
Originally Posted By YaMaMa:
First home built! .22/.223 suppressor. 2" Stainless steel with freeze plugs. Welded on both ends with SS ar welder. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/YaMaMa315/DE8CE49D-BCCB-4B72-8740-C17816B59A02-11892-00000CBADA6A9BE3_zps648cadda.jpg Bad pic I know, will post some more soon. what did you do for your threaded end cap? i am finishing mine up this the last thing i need to do. I welded a freeze plug on the end, im sure a SS washer would work fine. It is a sealed can. |
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Originally Posted By YaMaMa:
I welded a freeze plug on the end, im sure a SS washer would work fine. It is a sealed can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By YaMaMa:
Originally Posted By This_Guy:
Originally Posted By YaMaMa:
First home built! .22/.223 suppressor. 2" Stainless steel with freeze plugs. Welded on both ends with SS ar welder. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/YaMaMa315/DE8CE49D-BCCB-4B72-8740-C17816B59A02-11892-00000CBADA6A9BE3_zps648cadda.jpg Bad pic I know, will post some more soon. what did you do for your threaded end cap? i am finishing mine up this the last thing i need to do. I welded a freeze plug on the end, im sure a SS washer would work fine. It is a sealed can. got any pics of your freeze plug stack?? did you do the ball bearing trick to them or leave them flat?? what did you do for muzzle attachment?? |
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just submitted my form 1!
will be studying this thread for the next few months for ideas until it's approved. |
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Originally Posted By MHIDPA:
Originally Posted By dayphotog:
just submitted my form 1! will be studying this thread for the next few months for ideas until it's approved. What caliber? .22 and 5.56 well two form ones now |
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have gun will travel
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Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg View Quote Ok this really confuses me as how it is legal? Granted most monocores would not suppress at all with out the tube covering them. cool idea though |
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Originally Posted By dayphotog:
Ok this really confuses me as how it is legal? Granted most monocores would not suppress at all with out the tube covering them. cool idea though View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dayphotog:
Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg Ok this really confuses me as how it is legal? Granted most monocores would not suppress at all with out the tube covering them. cool idea though Because it's not a suppressor, just a crazy-ass brake? |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Because it's not a suppressor, just a crazy-ass brake? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By dayphotog:
Originally Posted By blackhawk400:
thoughts on the new Sig MPX-C carbine? love the permanently attached "muzzle brake" idea. http://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sig-Sauer-MPX-C.jpg Ok this really confuses me as how it is legal? Granted most monocores would not suppress at all with out the tube covering them. cool idea though Because it's not a suppressor, just a crazy-ass brake? So we can make muzzle breaks that a form 1/4 Tube can be put on that become a monocore suppressor? I thought...oh yea atf logic |
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have gun will travel
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You guys are way to talented for this. Im jealous I have no means to Form 1 a can.
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Have you donated to your local volunteer fire department lately?
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I think thats awesome man, good stuff!
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Got it together today...VERY pleased with how it sounds on a rifle. Dare I say as good as my pilot and sparrow which are quite a bit larger. It's louder than I want on the pistol...but haven't shot it wet or wiped yet so we'll see...
Video on both the rifle and pistol: http://s2.photobucket.com/user/cms81586/media/VID-20140107-00007_zpsa6086d6a.mp4.html |
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I'm jealous. Its damn quiet on the rifle, especially for its size. I wish I had your talents.
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Does anyone know the part number for freeze plugs that'll fit a C-cell maglite? (see my thread in this forum)
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Keep up the good work!
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I just did the detent upgrade to my cmmg 22 bolt and I used the black silicon insert from a BCM extractor upgrade and it works perfect without the cmmg bolt bounce part and not to stiff and not to soft, falls in groove just right. Thanks for the info.
I May go with a spring later but for now the black insert is doing fine. So far 850 RDS and no hiccup. |
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form 1's approved!!!!
now I begin!!!! |
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have gun will travel
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This thread is relevant to my interests.
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Thanks coyote115!
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I wanna see where this is going! Bump!
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Cheesebeast: Throw in a few pics of the driveway too, please. Nothing gets me friskier than good drainage.
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Originally Posted By vaeevictiss:
good thread. I actually just finished a form 1 30 caliber can myself. I dont have any pics of the process so no point really. Just looks like any other suppressor but its really nice. Its 100% 416 stainless. 7.5" long, 1.5" diameter, 23.5oz. Minimal POI shift and still shoots 1/4" groups with my full power loads. Full power loads are much quieter minus the supersonic crack, and my subsonic loads are very quiet...like pellet gun quiet. Its really a blast to shoot steel. I have a 100yrd range behind my house and you just hear a tiny pop followed by a loud "DING!" View Quote Looks awesome! Any info on the internals? I just efiled a form 1 for a 30 cal can so im looking for ideas. Thanks! |
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What are you people using for wipes? The ID of my tube is 1" and I'm having trouble finding rubber discs that size. Is rubber the right material?
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d12b29a084c245ff9f1b3b41f5c53512355cce6d508d14fab6fe68281309f5e9.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Cyonal:
What are you people using for wipes? The ID of my tube is 1" and I'm having trouble finding rubber discs that size. Is rubber the right material? http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d1/d12b29a084c245ff9f1b3b41f5c53512355cce6d508d14fab6fe68281309f5e9.jpg Oh my apologies. But where the hell can I find some information on what to use for suppressor wipes, and/or where to buy it in the size I need? |
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Buy it in sheets and cut/stamp the wipes out yourself. I usually sit down and cut 50 or so at a time. That lasts quite awhile, as I don't shoot that can often. I don't recall if it's 1/4" or 1/8" neoprene, but sheets are available online. Try McMaster Carr, or Graingers.
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Wow, what a great thread with tons of good info in it.
I'm new to the whole suppressor world and was hoping some of you that are more knowledgable about the subject can help. I'm strongly considering building my own can using the mag lite d-cell light for the main body and freeze plugs for baffles. I've done a bit of reading on that and it seems like a cost effective and viable option for someone that doesn't use it everyday and as an occassional addition to shooting. I want to be able to use it on both my AR Pistol (11.5" barrel, 5.56 NATO) and my carbine (16" barrel, 5.56 NATO). I'm torn about the mounting design. Some people seem to use a single mount where they thread the end cap with the same threads as the barrel and only use that. Others use various two point designs. I'm leaning towards a design that would allow me to use a threaded muzzle device with a removable shroud (kineti-tech style) and match the threads for the back of the can and then have the end or the muzzle brake/comp threaded and match that thread internally. Does this idea sound like a good option? Baffles would be made from freeze plugs that would be dimpled inwards (towards the rifle/shooter) then heat treated and quenched in water or used motor oil. Not sure if useing that heating and quenching process would be applicable to the aluminum of the maglite and the end caps. Could someone provide some insight about that please and thank you? From the sounds of what I've been reading I would not have to seal (weld) the can on both ends to allow for maintenance/cleaning. Is this correct? And, yes, I know...form 1 approval before getting the components to assemble the suppressor. Sorry for the newb questions but I would like to do it right and not be in any violation before and after filing and getting my form 1 approved. Thanks in advance. |
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Originally Posted By vaeevictiss:
I used 5x 60 degree cone baffles. Its 2" to the first cone then the rest are equally spaced to the end cap. I used stainless tube as the spacers, turned them down to .040. The tube is .065 and the baffles are .085. The baffles are a bit thicker than needed, but its pretty solid. bore is .375" The baffles look like this... http://i.imgur.com/BX8n2xpl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sesSxIrl.jpg I didnt end up using that one since as you can see i chipped the back of it pretty good. That lip is for the spacer. This one has since been destroyed as i found out (should have known) recently that i can no longer have that piece once the complete can is assembled and is does not belong to it. The ATF sees it as an unregistered part. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vaeevictiss:
Originally Posted By dbaird:
Originally Posted By vaeevictiss:
good thread. I actually just finished a form 1 30 caliber can myself. I dont have any pics of the process so no point really. Just looks like any other suppressor but its really nice. Its 100% 416 stainless. 7.5" long, 1.5" diameter, 23.5oz. Minimal POI shift and still shoots 1/4" groups with my full power loads. Full power loads are much quieter minus the supersonic crack, and my subsonic loads are very quiet...like pellet gun quiet. Its really a blast to shoot steel. I have a 100yrd range behind my house and you just hear a tiny pop followed by a loud "DING!" Looks awesome! Any info on the internals? I just efiled a form 1 for a 30 cal can so im looking for ideas. Thanks! I used 5x 60 degree cone baffles. Its 2" to the first cone then the rest are equally spaced to the end cap. I used stainless tube as the spacers, turned them down to .040. The tube is .065 and the baffles are .085. The baffles are a bit thicker than needed, but its pretty solid. bore is .375" The baffles look like this... http://i.imgur.com/BX8n2xpl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sesSxIrl.jpg I didnt end up using that one since as you can see i chipped the back of it pretty good. That lip is for the spacer. This one has since been destroyed as i found out (should have known) recently that i can no longer have that piece once the complete can is assembled and is does not belong to it. The ATF sees it as an unregistered part. Really nice can.. Can you tell me if you had the baffles and spacers welded together or is it serviceable ? Thanks Chris |
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Originally Posted By Nmbmxer:
I just finished my 30cal suppressor on a form 1. The baffle stack is made from a 416 drop that I had gundrilled by Dan LIlja and the sleeve is 304. I threaded the barrels 5/8-24 LH so the can wouldnt unscrew when shot. Total material cost was $150 and I have enough rough gundrilled stock to make another baffle stack. http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/WBDIV/Suppressor/MillWork4_09SMALL.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/WBDIV/Suppressor/Suppressor4_10_09008SMALL.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/WBDIV/Suppressor/Suppressor4_10_09024SMALL.jpg Video of the 30cal can on a .223: <a href="http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/WBDIV/Suppressor/?action=view¤t=convert010-1.flv" target="_blank">http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/WBDIV/Suppressor/th_convert010-1.jpg</a> View Quote You did a great job on this can. Would be interested in how you like it . Looking at this design as well so would like to find out about it. Thanks Chris |
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Quick question for the Form 1 suppressor makers. Is a length required when filling out the form?
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