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Posted: 9/2/2022 7:39:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, hope you don't me me posting so much in your thread. This is how it is now set up. Still playing with configuration. A quick test fire in the ditch tells me it has the same "problem" with my full laquer removed reloads as my 5.7 pistol does. It won't extract and eject the first round in a cold chamber. It ran the rest of the mag fine as well as a few with laquer in tact on a second mag. No problem but the one mentioned, and that is on me. The trigger is much nice when actually shooting it. Feels decent and light. Reset is a little long, but again, not noticed as much when shooting it. There is next to no recoil and it is so much quiter than the pistol...which makes sense. The mag release is nice. It is different, but works great. Need to add a QD brass catcher mount and will be good for a wile. Does the 512C Holosun look too big? I have other options. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220902_175139_jpg-2512268.JPG That 512C doesn't look bad at all on it. I was thinking of grabbing the LC and putting the Holosun AMES on it. Sttil in that "thinking about it" mode. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 9:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That 512C doesn't look bad at all on it. I was thinking of grabbing the LC and putting the Holosun AMES on it. Sttil in that "thinking about it" mode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP, hope you don't me me posting so much in your thread. This is how it is now set up. Still playing with configuration. A quick test fire in the ditch tells me it has the same "problem" with my full laquer removed reloads as my 5.7 pistol does. It won't extract and eject the first round in a cold chamber. It ran the rest of the mag fine as well as a few with laquer in tact on a second mag. No problem but the one mentioned, and that is on me. The trigger is much nice when actually shooting it. Feels decent and light. Reset is a little long, but again, not noticed as much when shooting it. There is next to no recoil and it is so much quiter than the pistol...which makes sense. The mag release is nice. It is different, but works great. Need to add a QD brass catcher mount and will be good for a wile. Does the 512C Holosun look too big? I have other options. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220902_175139_jpg-2512268.JPG That 512C doesn't look bad at all on it. I was thinking of grabbing the LC and putting the Holosun AMES on it. Sttil in that "thinking about it" mode. The AMES would look very "at home" on this gun. I have a spare 512C, a 507C with cheapo mount and an older H3503GU with AD qd mount. I will try em all. If I go LPVO, I have to take one off a different gun. Which I am not sure I want to do. I also don't want it to get too heavy, or it takes away from thr point of it |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy cow, I just had a great idea! Why has no one made an M1 Carbine in 5.7? Steve Well, something similar was done MANY years ago in an effort to keep the M-1 Carbine relevant. It was the " 5.7 Johnson carbine" which was a necked down .30 carbine case to 5.7mm. They were sold but never got very popular. There are discussions on this site talking about it. Johnson 5.7 carbine Years ago I wanted one but never ran across one and I moved on. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:20:52 PM EDT
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This Ruger is "interesting". Some don't like the look but I think you really need to hold one in your hands and see how it feels. The magazine in the grip is clearly the way to go. This makes for a much more compact and balanced firearm. My CX-4 in 9mm with the mag-in-grip feels like a toy in your hands as its so light and balanced. I imagine this Ruger is much the same. My CX-4 even with the 16" barrel seems so small next to an 9mm AR or any other rifle with a standard magazine placement ahead of the grip. I really wish my CZ Scorpion had been designed that way to reduce its size.
I am a major fan of PCC's and have a small collection of them. BUt, the two things that will keep me from buying this Ruger are: #1 The availability and cost of ammo. I have "a few" 9mm carbines and its easy and affordable to reload for them. 5.7....not so easy or cheap. #2 The cost of this Ruger. KYGUNCO, our big local dealer and one who historically been very good on pricing, has them at full tilt MSRP. They even inflate the MSRP to over a grand and then imply they are giving you a cash discount to get it down to $979. NO...will pass. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Ruger is "interesting". Some don't like the look but I think you really need to hold one in your hands and see how it feels. The magazine in the grip is clearly the way to go. This makes for a much more compact and balanced firearm. My CX-4 in 9mm with the mag-in-grip feels like a toy in your hands as its so light and balanced. I imagine this Ruger is much the same. My CX-4 even with the 16" barrel seems so small next to an 9mm AR or any other rifle with a standard magazine placement ahead of the grip. I really wish my CZ Scorpion had been designed that way to reduce its size. I am a major fan of PCC's and have a small collection of them. BUt, the two things that will keep me from buying this Ruger are: #1 The availability and cost of ammo. I have "a few" 9mm carbines and its easy and affordable to reload for them. 5.7....not so easy or cheap. #2 The cost of this Ruger. KYGUNCO, our big local dealer and one who historically been very good on pricing, has them at full tilt MSRP. They even inflate the MSRP to over a grand and then imply they are giving you a cash discount to get it down to $979. NO...will pass. Just based on this thread, it seems like day-one street price is $799. It will probably get a little cheaper. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:35:21 PM EDT
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Mine was $859.99 out the door with Tax.
Reloading the 5.7 is actually way easier than the original reloaders made it seem. 1. Wash the brass with hot water and a little simple green in a jar and let air dry. This keeps the laquer in tack. 2. If you're looking for just plinking ammo, 4.5 grains of True Blue and a cheap 55 grain FMJ make for a cheap and fun plinking round. I don't buy factory ammo anymore....yes, it is too expensive. It is coming back around in my town though. It's available and typically $45ish. Not saying that makes the gun and caliber what you want, but reloading isn't the problem that some used to make it out to be. Reloading for the P90 may be a different animal, not sure. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine was $859.99 out the door with Tax. Reloading the 5.7 is actually way easier than the original reloaders made it seem. 1. Wash the brass with hot water and a little simple green in a jar and let air dry. This keeps the laquer in tack. 2. If you're looking for just plinking ammo, 4.5 grains of True Blue and a cheap 55 grain FMJ make for a cheap and fun plinking round. I don't buy factory ammo anymore....yes, it is too expensive. It is coming back around in my town though. It's available and typically $45ish. Not saying that makes the gun and caliber what you want, but reloading isn't the problem that some used to make it out to be. Reloading for the P90 may be a different animal, not sure. Looks like PSA has American Eagle at $35/50 today. |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:44:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2022 2:47:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder is something like this had enough clearance between stock rods? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/Screenshot_20220903-134338_Google_jpg-2513080.JPG That would be cool with a 10” barrel and a shorter hand guard. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 4:09:16 AM EDT
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Someone had one at the gun show this weekend, was surprised to see it.
Felt kind of cheap. Not like "I'm going to break it" cheap but like "there's no way there's a grand of engineering/materials in this thing" cheap. It almost felt like a Micro-Roni, like Ruger just slapped a chassis on their 5.7 pistol. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 7:54:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt looks like a telescoping bolt design. How far back does the barrel go into the receiver? Looks like 8" considering it's basically the same lower receiver as the Ruger 57. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 8:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like a telescoping bolt design. How far back does the barrel go into the receiver? Looks like 8" considering it's basically the same lower receiver as the Ruger 57. Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like a telescoping bolt design. How far back does the barrel go into the receiver? Looks like 8" considering it's basically the same lower receiver as the Ruger 57. Yes, it is a wrap around telescoping bolt...like an UZI. The barrel goes into the receiver 5". Pics for fun.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileOverall length when folded:  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 8:49:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/4/2022 11:10:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, something similar was done MANY years ago in an effort to keep the M-1 Carbine relevant. It was the " 5.7 Johnson carbine" which was a necked down .30 carbine case to 5.7mm. They were sold but never got very popular. There are discussions on this site talking about it. Johnson 5.7 carbine Years ago I wanted one but never ran across one and I moved on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Holy cow, I just had a great idea! Why has no one made an M1 Carbine in 5.7? Steve Well, something similar was done MANY years ago in an effort to keep the M-1 Carbine relevant. It was the " 5.7 Johnson carbine" which was a necked down .30 carbine case to 5.7mm. They were sold but never got very popular. There are discussions on this site talking about it. Johnson 5.7 carbine Years ago I wanted one but never ran across one and I moved on. My wallet would catch on fire so fast if a major manufacturer took up a correct M1 carbine in 5.7 FN.  I thought the 5.7 Johnson/.22 Spitfire concept was pretty cool but the wildcat nature of it was a turn off for me. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 11:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it is a wrap around telescoping bolt...like an UZI. The barrel goes into the receiver 5". Pics for fun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192614_jpg-2514632.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192625_jpg-2514635.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192633_jpg-2514637.JPG Overall length when folded: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192714_jpg-2514638.JPG I see, I see. About how much barrel is it from the bolt face to the end of the first MLOK section? About 10"? Seems like if you chopped it there you'd have enough room to mount some nick-nacks. What does that front handguard screw into, something like a receiver extension or tabs? Can it be removed in it's entirety without adversely affecting the function of the gun? I'm having thoughts of SBR-ing one and deleting the handguard entirely, or for Midwest Industires to come out with a shorty handguard for it. |
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Posted: 9/4/2022 11:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see, I see. About how much barrel is it from the bolt face to the end of the first MLOK section? About 10"? Seems like if you chopped it there you'd have enough room to mount some nick-nacks. What does that front handguard screw into, something like a receiver extension or tabs? Can it be removed in it's entirety without adversely affecting the function of the gun? I'm having thoughts of SBR-ing one and deleting the handguard entirely, or for Midwest Industires to come out with a shorty handguard for it. With MI’s good work for the 10/22 and the Ruger PC, I bet they are working OT for ideas for this gun if it takes off. And they always make great stuff. Always under-rated. |
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Posted: 9/5/2022 3:34:59 AM EDT
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I had my local fun store on the look out for one for myself.
Called on Friday and it was there. Before I got to the store they had sold one before I picked up mine. I paid about 30 buck less than the other posted for price. It ergos are good and it is light. My daughter can hold it up with out getting the backwards lean when holding it up aiming at the back fence. So that is a good thing. Looking for a red dot and then to the range to shoot i a bit. Only downside right now is that it is not fitting the bag that I wanted to use for it. :( |
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Posted: 9/5/2022 12:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see, I see. About how much barrel is it from the bolt face to the end of the first MLOK section? About 10"? Seems like if you chopped it there you'd have enough room to mount some nick-nacks. What does that front handguard screw into, something like a receiver extension or tabs? Can it be removed in it's entirety without adversely affecting the function of the gun? I'm having thoughts of SBR-ing one and deleting the handguard entirely, or for Midwest Industires to come out with a shorty handguard for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, it is a wrap around telescoping bolt...like an UZI. The barrel goes into the receiver 5". Pics for fun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192614_jpg-2514632.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192625_jpg-2514635.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192633_jpg-2514637.JPG Overall length when folded: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192714_jpg-2514638.JPG I see, I see. About how much barrel is it from the bolt face to the end of the first MLOK section? About 10"? Seems like if you chopped it there you'd have enough room to mount some nick-nacks. What does that front handguard screw into, something like a receiver extension or tabs? Can it be removed in it's entirety without adversely affecting the function of the gun? I'm having thoughts of SBR-ing one and deleting the handguard entirely, or for Midwest Industires to come out with a shorty handguard for it. Yes, if you cut the handguard just past the first full size MLOK slot a 10" barrel would stick just past. Doesn't look like a clean spot to cut the handguard without cutting through a partial hole/slot. If that makes sense. The hansguard is held in by 3 screws, not sure what it is screwing into just yet. Haven't stripped it down at this point. Agreed, it would make a nice SBR. The gun with its stock unfolded is currently almost the same OAL as my 10.5" AR SBR with a magpul CTR and. LAW folder. |
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Posted: 9/5/2022 12:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had my local fun store on the look out for one for myself. Called on Friday and it was there. Before I got to the store they had sold one before I picked up mine. I paid about 30 buck less than the other posted for price. It ergos are good and it is light. My daughter can hold it up with out getting the backwards lean when holding it up aiming at the back fence. So that is a good thing. Looking for a red dot and then to the range to shoot i a bit. Only downside right now is that it is not fitting the bag that I wanted to use for it. :( Good score! I hope you like yours as much as I like mine....granted I only have about 20rds through it and no accuracy testing yet, but I am hopeful. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 11:45:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, if you cut the handguard just past the first full size MLOK slot a 10" barrel would stick just past. Doesn't look like a clean spot to cut the handguard without cutting through a partial hole/slot. If that makes sense. The hansguard is held in by 3 screws, not sure what it is screwing into just yet. Haven't stripped it down at this point. Agreed, it would make a nice SBR. The gun with its stock unfolded is currently almost the same OAL as my 10.5" AR SBR with a magpul CTR and. LAW folder. also, post away @HK_DUDE lol |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 2:39:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AMES would look very "at home" on this gun. I have a spare 512C, a 507C with cheapo mount and an older H3503GU with AD qd mount. I will try em all. If I go LPVO, I have to take one off a different gun. Which I am not sure I want to do. I also don't want it to get too heavy, or it takes away from thr point of it Well look at that, I missed that boat.Thank you for the information. Steve |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 7:46:55 PM EDT
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What is the velocity increase over a handgun like the ruger or fn?
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Posted: 9/6/2022 10:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on the available exploded diagram in the online owner's manual; it looks like the handguard attaches to the trunnion in the front of the receiver. I really hope that someone makes a handguard just long enough to cover the trunnion with a section of pic rail that extends back under the receiver. With a cut and threaded barrel that should give you something resembling a 6ish" sbr. also, post away @HK_DUDE lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, if you cut the handguard just past the first full size MLOK slot a 10" barrel would stick just past. Doesn't look like a clean spot to cut the handguard without cutting through a partial hole/slot. If that makes sense. The hansguard is held in by 3 screws, not sure what it is screwing into just yet. Haven't stripped it down at this point. Agreed, it would make a nice SBR. The gun with its stock unfolded is currently almost the same OAL as my 10.5" AR SBR with a magpul CTR and. LAW folder. also, post away @HK_DUDE lol I would be in for that. Like others has said..maybe they will make a "Charger 57" and it would be much easier. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 10:15:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the velocity increase over a handgun like the ruger or fn? If I get a chance, I will use my old chrony to get some numbers on both my 57 pistol and the carbine. I would guess...that it should be quite substantial. |
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Posted: 9/7/2022 7:46:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it is a wrap around telescoping bolt...like an UZI. The barrel goes into the receiver 5". Pics for fun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192614_jpg-2514632.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192625_jpg-2514635.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192633_jpg-2514637.JPG Overall length when folded: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220904_192714_jpg-2514638.JPG The Beretta CX4's barrel is also inside it's bolt a number of inches. 
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:28:59 AM EDT
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Picked one up yesterday.
It was $830 all together with tax. Already have the pistol and the psa. 
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Picked one up yesterday. It was $830 all together with tax. Already have the pistol and the psa. Good score. Pics of how you set it up please. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 12:42:47 PM EDT
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It's stock.
I haven't messed with it. I was incoherently saying I have the Ruger 57 pistol and the PSA 5.7 chambered pistol. 
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Posted: 9/9/2022 11:18:06 AM EDT
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The reviews of the ruger 5.7 pistol mags aren't great. Is that valid? It would be a concern for me in picking one of these up.
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Posted: 9/9/2022 11:34:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The reviews of the ruger 5.7 pistol mags aren't great. Is that valid? It would be a concern for me in picking one of these up. I haven't had any magazine related issues. Have 7 mags now and have ran maybe 400 rounds through my 5.7 Pistol. Only fired about 40 through the carbine thus far. I can say I'm not a fan of the extension that I added to one of the mags. It seems to load a bit odd, and doesn't give me confidence at all. I will probably take it off. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:15:57 PM EDT
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I'm really hoping for two things,
1. Factory Ruger 30 round mags. 2. Pistol version with maybe 10-12" barrel. I do have a Ruger 57 so I'm sure I'll end up with one of these either way, cool little carbine. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:20:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really hoping for two things, 1. Factory Ruger 30 round mags. 2. Pistol version with maybe 10-12" barrel. I do have a Ruger 57 so I'm sure I'll end up with one of these either way, cool little carbine. I am in! I would still buy a "Charger version" if they were to make one. I did a company making a 35rd mag, but they are only pre-order now.....supposed to be shipping March. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:44:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am in! I would still buy a "Charger version" if they were to make one. I did a company making a 35rd mag, but they are only pre-order now.....supposed to be shipping March. Who's the company? Would love to get on a preorder even if it's several months away! |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 2:46:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/13/2022 4:14:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryKeep us updated on the mags. I am still looking for a red dot for this one that I like. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 8:48:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep us updated on the mags. I am still looking for a red dot for this one that I like. For the pistol? I found custom adaptor plates on Amazon of all places, made for other optic foot prints. I kind of partial to Holoson and I saw one available. Here’s one, not Amazon. https://gallowayprecision.com/optic-mount-plate-for-ruger-57-pistols |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:22:54 AM EDT
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Honestly its just a nicer looking hipiont carbine, minus the pot metal.
 I want one |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 6:20:37 PM EDT
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Got to the range today. Only shot it at 25 yards.
Sighted it in with my 55 grain FMJ reloads. Functioned perfect and seems to be very accurate. Almost no recoil. Didn't shoot any groups really, just got it on target and shot the crap out of my 4" spinner at 25 yards. They all seem to land ontop of each other. Very fun. I may change the metal MI stock out to an AR style folder. I am going to see if Ruger will sell me another folder like the one that came on this one...I stole it and put it on my new PC chassis carbine. Pics of current setup. I love how low I can mount the reddot. It's a relatively inexpensive Swampfox Kingslayer. I have 2 and like them....they do mostly what my holosons do, at 2/3 the price. I have it folding to the right. I don't plan to shot it folded ever, and this way I don't hit the hinge with my nose. Added: The 2 items on the top rail are a qd sling mount and a qd brass catcher mount.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 8:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got to the range today. Only shot it at 25 yards. Sighted it in with my 55 grain FMJ reloads. Functioned perfect and seems to be very accurate. Almost no recoil. Didn't shoot any groups really, just got it on target and shot the crap out of my 4" spinner at 25 yards. They all seem to land ontop of each other. Very fun. I may change the metal MI stock out to an AR style folder. I am going to see if Ruger will sell me another folder like the one that came on this one...I stole it and put it on my new PC chassis carbine. Pics of current setup. I love how low I can mount the reddot. It's a relatively inexpensive Swampfox Kingslayer. I have 2 and like them....they do mostly what my holosons do, at 2/3 the price. I have it folding to the right. I don't plan to shot it folded ever, and this way I don't hit the hinge with my nose. Added: The 2 items on the top rail are a qd sling mount and a qd brass catcher mount. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220913_171754_jpg-2525199.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3591/20220913_171734_jpg-2525200.JPG Very nice! I'm looking forward to adding one of these to the safe. |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 11:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The reviews of the ruger 5.7 pistol mags aren't great. Is that valid? It would be a concern for me in picking one of these up. More in regards to this: I used 5 factory mags today with about 5 different home brew loads (most I no longer load) and even though the rounds got a little "wonky" a few times in the last few rounds loaded...they never skipped a beat. I didn't use the mag I have with the 5 round extension, that one gets really screwy with more than 20 rounds in it. I am taking the extension off. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 7:42:16 AM EDT
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I got to handle one the other day.
Grip is plastic the rest is metal and very easy to manipulate. Paired with the R.-57 and some 30+ round mags and its gtg. PS. Beretta, this is nice foundation for a CX4 reboot. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 2:17:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately it looks to be direct blow back  While I don't care for 9mm ARs or the Scorpion, not all direct blow backs are bad. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:51:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately it looks to be direct blow back So? That’s typical for 5.7. Why would Ruger spend money reinventing the wheel when all the other 5.7 guns use blowback (ever the CMMG RDB is blowback). It isn’t the same as blowback on 9mm. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 8:28:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2022 5:09:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2158/00BE174F-CA36-46D9-8BDC-C99F57DF0547_png-2526449.JPG 729.99 plus shipping, no tax. Nice find. I am going to see if I can get out this weekend and put some rounds down range. Talked to the local fun store and he mentioned they are not selling as well as he thought they would, they are selling just not flying off the shelves faster than he can put another one up. People are worried about the ammo price and availability. The two things that even on this thread have been brought up. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 5:29:56 PM EDT
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Can they make a carbine that isn't SEVEN POUNDS though?
Don't get me wrong, I desperately want one but its really hard for me to justify a full length rifle of average AR weight that directly competes with 5.56 in the same space. I understand low recoil, but... Now throw me in a braced Charger 5.7 and I think money will simply fly out of my pocket, but unless you just want, there's barely a case for this. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 5:39:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can they make a carbine that isn't SEVEN POUNDS though? Don't get me wrong, I desperately want one but its really hard for me to justify a full length rifle of average AR weight that directly competes with 5.56 in the same space. I understand low recoil, but... Now throw me in a braced Charger 5.7 and I think money will simply fly out of my pocket, but unless you just want, there's barely a case for this. I understand your point and agree that a charger version would be great... However, you are exaggerating. It weighs 5.9 pounds and is about the size of a Beretta storm carbine (and much shorter with the stock folded). It does not feel like a 5.56 AR. Just saying:) |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 6:35:06 PM EDT
[#48]
I like the concept and more products hopefully mean more ammo availability, but what advantage does this have vs. an AR upper in 5.7, that takes the orig factory 50rd mags, and costs the same?
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Posted: 9/19/2022 6:44:43 PM EDT
[#49]
In my opinion....it is just an option for people that like 5.7 and especially for people that like 5.7 and have a Ruger 57 handgun.
Honestly, I don't think it makes a ton of sense otherwise. I doubt this offering will make anyone who already hates 5.7, change their mind. I would never take it over a 5.56 AR. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 7:08:35 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand your point and agree that a charger version would be great... However, you are exaggerating. It weighs 5.9 pounds and is about the size of a Beretta storm carbine (and much shorter with the stock folded). It does not feel like a 5.56 AR. Just saying:) Sorry seven is for the 9mm version. But really, only a pound less for such a light weight round. Dont get me wrong though. The minute a charger 5.7 comes out im probably throwing money at ruger. |
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