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Posted: 9/24/2022 7:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @BerettaGuy Are the internals of the Mx4 the same as Cx4? Aside from sear/selector? Sorry I'm very late answring this one! Yes, besides the differences in the fire control group, most other parts are all the same. @SouthsideSlim |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 9:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jealous of that 90-two. I want one just to have one Never even shot it - I just had to have it |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 11:03:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha. You sound like me - and I, like you. Never even shot it - I just had to have it I have owned two 90-TWos over the years. I even won one of them.... I tried to like the gun, but just couldn't. The grip is too damn slippery. And, until recently, no one every had the alternate grip in stock. They were impossible to get for years and years. Many people at the Beretta Forum even tried different versions of grip tape to try and make the gun work... I even bought some from someone who cut it into the texture shapes on the grip itself. But, it wouldn't stay on. In the end, both ended up going. I've owned 29 different Beretta 92 variants over the years - While the 90-Two looks cool, I just couldn't warm up to it. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 12:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (Snip) I've owned 29 different Beretta 92 variants over the years - While the 90-Two looks cool, I just couldn't warm up to it. It’s really just an appearance thing. Plenty of better options out there. I remember reading an article about Italdesign Giugiaro designing the CX4 and doing an appearance update on the 92 to coordinate. Hence the 90-Two. I have two 90-Twos. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 3:25:23 PM EDT
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My first Beretta 9mm was the 90-TWO. I liked the looks except for that goofy plastic cover over the tac rail.
I'd always liked the grip of the Vertec and the 90-TWO came with both grips. But after a few years my grip started to split down the seam. I epoxied it and covered it with grip tape, but my concerns with long term durability made me sell mine. Later picked up an INOX which I still have. |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 5:49:32 PM EDT
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Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed.
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Posted: 10/8/2022 6:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's really just an appearance thing. Plenty of better options out there. I remember reading an article about Italdesign Giugiaro designing the CX4 and doing an appearance update on the 92 to coordinate. Hence the 90-Two. I have two 90-Twos. Like the CX4 and the ARX100, not fully successful - not enough at least. The 90-TWO (which was, in Italy - as well my very first handgun I purchased years ago and which I have re-purchased here after moving) - is nothing but a collectible nowadays and so it should be looked at |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 11:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed. Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 12:52:58 PM EDT
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Can anybody link a 922r parts count specifically for the CX-4? I'm seeing anywhere from 10 to 12 foreign parts.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 10:55:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anybody link a 922r parts count specifically for the CX-4? I'm seeing anywhere from 10 to 12 foreign parts. Link is posted in this thread to a company which makes the 922 r parts. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:44:14 PM EDT
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Thinking of threading my CX4 barrel (standard, long barrel - I won't cut it, don't want to SBR this one) for suppressor use: this worth it?
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:49:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thinking of threading my CX4 barrel (standard, long barrel - I won't cut it, don't want to SBR this one) for suppressor use: this worth it? It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 9:36:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. Going to sell my CX4 then - no anymore use for this PCC (have several others, needs to go) Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 3:23:19 PM EDT
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The wife and I just had the CX-4 out at the range today, man that's such a great little gun. I forgot how much I like shooting it! Also if that's not the perfect bump in the night rifle I don't know what is. It's a damn shame they can't build them here and not be imports, but even as is it's a great rifle.
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Posted: 10/26/2022 11:40:53 AM EDT
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No idea if anyone mentioned this but I just picked up a 9mm CX4 from here for $629. Iknow they used to go for over 800 so I assumed this was a good deal andnow I have one.
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Posted: 10/26/2022 3:18:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. Regardless of whether a threaded barrel on a CX4 is "legal", there is nothing in the law that makes possession of a gun that is in violation of 922 a crime. That said, I would love to know what scenarios people are envisioning where they think they're going to be "busted" for violating 922. It's literally impossible to determine whether a gun is compliant just by looking at the exterior which means even if you walked through a room full of ATF agents not a single one would be able to articulate reasonable suspicion that your CX4 was in violation. Just like possessing an NFA item isn't reasonable suspicion you're violating that law (in states where NFA items are legal), possessing a CX4 with a threaded barrel is not enough to arrest you and investigate (ignoring that, again, possession isn't a crime). Even if you somehow ended up in a situation where you were being looked at for violating 922, the government then has the burden to prove that you're actually in violation which is going to be very hard to do considering that most of the relevant parts 1) aren't marked with their country or origin and 2) replacement parts aren't required to be marked with their country of origin AND that you were the one who actually "assembled" the gun to begin with since, again, mere possession isn't actually a crime (of note, the ATF has stated that "routine maintenance" does not constitute "assembly" for purposes of the law). All of this assumes that 922r even applies to end users "assembling" a gun for personal use (which has not been established one way or another via case law or judicial review and which legal experts do no agree on) and not just importers/manufacturers. I'm not telling anyone they should break the law (and, for a fourth time, possessing a gun in violation of 922 isn't a crime) but worrying about 922 compliance, as a non-importer/manufacturer, is nonsensical. You quite literally have a higher statistical chance of being murdered in your own home than you do being charged. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 7:43:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless of whether a threaded barrel on a CX4 is "legal", there is nothing in the law that makes possession of a gun that is in violation of 922 a crime. That said, I would love to know what scenarios people are envisioning where they think they're going to be "busted" for violating 922. It's literally impossible to determine whether a gun is compliant just by looking at the exterior which means even if you walked through a room full of ATF agents not a single one would be able to articulate reasonable suspicion that your CX4 was in violation. Just like possessing an NFA item isn't reasonable suspicion you're violating that law (in states where NFA items are legal), possessing a CX4 with a threaded barrel is not enough to arrest you and investigate (ignoring that, again, possession isn't a crime). Even if you somehow ended up in a situation where you were being looked at for violating 922, the government then has the burden to prove that you're actually in violation which is going to be very hard to do considering that most of the relevant parts 1) aren't marked with their country or origin and 2) replacement parts aren't required to be marked with their country of origin AND that you were the one who actually "assembled" the gun to begin with since, again, mere possession isn't actually a crime (of note, the ATF has stated that "routine maintenance" does not constitute "assembly" for purposes of the law). All of this assumes that 922r even applies to end users "assembling" a gun for personal use (which has not been established one way or another via case law or judicial review and which legal experts do no agree on) and not just importers/manufacturers. I'm not telling anyone they should break the law (and, for a fourth time, possessing a gun in violation of 922 isn't a crime) but worrying about 922 compliance, as a non-importer/manufacturer, is nonsensical. You quite literally have a higher statistical chance of being murdered in your own home than you do being charged. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. Regardless of whether a threaded barrel on a CX4 is "legal", there is nothing in the law that makes possession of a gun that is in violation of 922 a crime. That said, I would love to know what scenarios people are envisioning where they think they're going to be "busted" for violating 922. It's literally impossible to determine whether a gun is compliant just by looking at the exterior which means even if you walked through a room full of ATF agents not a single one would be able to articulate reasonable suspicion that your CX4 was in violation. Just like possessing an NFA item isn't reasonable suspicion you're violating that law (in states where NFA items are legal), possessing a CX4 with a threaded barrel is not enough to arrest you and investigate (ignoring that, again, possession isn't a crime). Even if you somehow ended up in a situation where you were being looked at for violating 922, the government then has the burden to prove that you're actually in violation which is going to be very hard to do considering that most of the relevant parts 1) aren't marked with their country or origin and 2) replacement parts aren't required to be marked with their country of origin AND that you were the one who actually "assembled" the gun to begin with since, again, mere possession isn't actually a crime (of note, the ATF has stated that "routine maintenance" does not constitute "assembly" for purposes of the law). All of this assumes that 922r even applies to end users "assembling" a gun for personal use (which has not been established one way or another via case law or judicial review and which legal experts do no agree on) and not just importers/manufacturers. I'm not telling anyone they should break the law (and, for a fourth time, possessing a gun in violation of 922 isn't a crime) but worrying about 922 compliance, as a non-importer/manufacturer, is nonsensical. You quite literally have a higher statistical chance of being murdered in your own home than you do being charged. Project Exile in Virginia and other states. This was the NRA/Waste LaPierre's brilliant "plan" to thwart new gun control laws by "enforcing the laws on the books" - which is all unconstitutional gun laws and regulations. This law mandates that ATF is contacted for ALL crimes where a gun is involved for the purpose of ATF examining the gun and the case to see if any federal gun laws have been violated. Some jurisdictions now do this anyway without being mandated by a law. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221008_232242237_compress76_jpg-2556359.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed. Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221008_232242237_compress76_jpg-2556359.JPG  Attached FileVictory 
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:28:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed. Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221008_232242237_compress76_jpg-2556359.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221027_212110017_compress24_jpg-2578376.JPG Victory 
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any chance there might be more available for interested parties? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed. Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221008_232242237_compress76_jpg-2556359.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221027_212110017_compress24_jpg-2578376.JPG Victory Send me an e-mail and I will send you the file. There is a website called craftcloud3d.com, you upload the file, select the material, and they will 3D print you the part and ship it to you. I had 2 covers made and shipped for less than $10. Takes about 4-5 days. I chose black sls nylon. |
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Posted: 10/27/2022 9:56:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send me an e-mail and I will send you the file. There is a website called craftcloud3d.com, you upload the file, select the material, and they will 3D print you the part and ship it to you. I had 2 covers made and shipped for less than $10. Takes about 4-5 days. I chose black sls nylon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone make a port cover without the holes? Getting some debris back at my face when shooting suppressed. Anyone have a 3D printer? I created a solid model of the part without the open ports in it. The Beretta one is made of some type polymer as well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221008_232242237_compress76_jpg-2556359.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/372855/IMG_20221027_212110017_compress24_jpg-2578376.JPG Victory Send me an e-mail and I will send you the file. There is a website called craftcloud3d.com, you upload the file, select the material, and they will 3D print you the part and ship it to you. I had 2 covers made and shipped for less than $10. Takes about 4-5 days. I chose black sls nylon. |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 8:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thinking of threading my CX4 barrel (standard, long barrel - I won't cut it, don't want to SBR this one) for suppressor use: this worth it? It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. I'm curious -- what two reasons? US parts count/922 and what other one? Or did you mean just two "parts" away from 922r compliance? I think about threading the Cx4 sometimes, but in reality I'll probably never get around to it, so it's not like I am looking to be the 'test case'... just mainly curious. Thanks @BerettaGuy for all your info!  |
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Posted: 10/28/2022 10:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm curious -- what two reasons? US parts count/922 and what other one? Or did you mean just two "parts" away from 922r compliance? I think about threading the Cx4 sometimes, but in reality I'll probably never get around to it, so it's not like I am looking to be the 'test case'... just mainly curious. Thanks @BerettaGuy for all your info! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thinking of threading my CX4 barrel (standard, long barrel - I won't cut it, don't want to SBR this one) for suppressor use: this worth it? It's not legal for two reasons. See my previous posts. I'm curious -- what two reasons? US parts count/922 and what other one? Or did you mean just two "parts" away from 922r compliance? I think about threading the Cx4 sometimes, but in reality I'll probably never get around to it, so it's not like I am looking to be the 'test case'... just mainly curious. Thanks @BerettaGuy for all your info! You are very welcome. Yes it's a parts count issue. Replace enough parts so that it is considered US made and then it's legal. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:24:03 AM EDT
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Would love to find a 40cal
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Posted: 12/17/2022 11:45:05 PM EDT
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I just broke down and bought another one in 9mm. RSR got a batch and I saw they were down to like 20 left in stock so I grabbed one. I'm weak and I really like these little guns. I have three now. Two 9mm and one .40.
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Posted: 12/17/2022 11:53:06 PM EDT
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Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back.
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Posted: 12/17/2022 11:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back. I'm not surprised they would discontinue them. They compete directly with their new PCC "coming". The PMXs which I would buy in a heartbeat if it came to the US. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 12:01:47 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not surprised they would discontinue them. They compete directly with their new PCC "coming". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back. I'm not surprised they would discontinue them. They compete directly with their new PCC "coming". I wondered about that. Was able to sell one of the two I bought off PSA a while back, b/c it was different & he had lots of 92 mags. Now I'm debating ordering 2 more. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 12:29:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wondered about that. Was able to sell one of the two I bought off PSA a while back, b/c it was different & he had lots of 92 mags. Now I'm debating ordering 2 more. Also, as so many have stated, the CX4 design is lost on us simple minded, "AR is God" Americans. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 7:18:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back. https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-92-9mm-semi-automatic-carbine-blk-jx49221m.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-9mm-rifle-flat-dark-earth-jx4922105m.html |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 9:48:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not looking for another one, but what was the blowout price? They currently show them in black on clearance at $599.99. FDE is still $789. https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-92-9mm-semi-automatic-carbine-blk-jx49221m.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-9mm-rifle-flat-dark-earth-jx4922105m.html Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back. https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-92-9mm-semi-automatic-carbine-blk-jx49221m.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/beretta-cx4-storm-9mm-rifle-flat-dark-earth-jx4922105m.html I got two black ones for that price a while back, so clearly they've not sold out. Thanks, I guess I won't buy any more from my distributor til PSA sells out. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 6:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 90-Twos have been an aesthetic exercise made by the Italians; the umpteenth. Like the CX4 and the ARX100, not fully successful - not enough at least. The 90-TWO (which was, in Italy - as well my very first handgun I purchased years ago and which I have re-purchased here after moving) - is nothing but a collectible nowadays and so it should be looked at Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's really just an appearance thing. Plenty of better options out there. I remember reading an article about Italdesign Giugiaro designing the CX4 and doing an appearance update on the 92 to coordinate. Hence the 90-Two. I have two 90-Twos. Like the CX4 and the ARX100, not fully successful - not enough at least. The 90-TWO (which was, in Italy - as well my very first handgun I purchased years ago and which I have re-purchased here after moving) - is nothing but a collectible nowadays and so it should be looked at In addition to the grip being “slickery”, It is also essentially only held in place by a small, plastic nub. It is simply another example of Beretta’s style/design infatuation with form over function. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 6:48:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not surprised they would discontinue them. They compete directly with their new PCC "coming". The PMXs which I would buy in a heartbeat if it came to the US. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was told my one of my distributors that Beretta has discontinued these and my distributor grabbed what was available. Dunno if that's true or not, but the price seems consistent w/ PSA's blowout a few months back. I'm not surprised they would discontinue them. They compete directly with their new PCC "coming". The PMXs which I would buy in a heartbeat if it came to the US. Please tell me this will not be another proprietary magazine user. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 7:04:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, as so many have stated, the CX4 design is lost on us simple minded, "AR is God" Americans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wondered about that. Was able to sell one of the two I bought off PSA a while back, b/c it was different & he had lots of 92 mags. Now I'm debating ordering 2 more. Also, as so many have stated, the CX4 design is lost on us simple minded, "AR is God" Americans. The AR is not perfect. It could use a BHO/BR operated without breaking grip, and an off side non reciprocal CH instead of what it has. But in terms of mag changes, reloads, safety ergonomics, etc. it’s pretty hard to beat. Take an AR based 9mm and your CX4 to the range. Try to put extra capacity, regular capacity, compact, and subcompact magazines into each. Many AR based designs are no issue with any of them. With the CX4 even some of the regular capacity are tough to slam in and lock. There’s just too much crap at the bottom of the grip or insert. But, forget that. Just do some basic manual of arms and firing procedures. Say, take a 30 round magazine, and do 15 “up downs”. As you come up, put on fire, shoot twice, as you come down put on safe. Compare on a shot timer. You will find the safety manipulation costs you a ton of time compared to and AR. Repeat locking and loading a 30 round mag. Have a second one ready to go in your mag holder. Now do a dozen “five loads”. Come up, five shots, drop mag, load the mag in your holder, five more. Pick up your mags and repeat. Between the small mag release and mags getting hung up in the grip, your timer will also reveal a significant disadvantage. Next do some “five forwards” Your mags only have five rounds. When you change mags you will need to hit the slide release. This will be less of a disadvantage, the shift of your firing hand to do it ends up costing a little more than using your reloading hand to hit the bolt release. And this is before getting to some of the known weaker internals, plastic hammer, absolutely flimsy slide out front rail, etc. I own two CX4s, getting close to 20 years on one of them- The mag releases wear out. I have even had a mag insert wear out. I am of the opinion that it is a decent home defense, rooftop Korean during a riot, hand to someone helping you get out of the city when the zombies are coming, etc. weapon. But regardless of who Beretta has sold them or the full auto versions to, I simply don’t view it as a military issue grade weapon. |
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Posted: 12/18/2022 8:04:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, as so many have stated, the CX4 design is lost on us simple minded, "AR is God" Americans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wondered about that. Was able to sell one of the two I bought off PSA a while back, b/c it was different & he had lots of 92 mags. Now I'm debating ordering 2 more. Also, as so many have stated, the CX4 design is lost on us simple minded, "AR is God" Americans. Speak for yourself, round eye.
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Posted: 12/19/2022 1:23:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AR is not perfect. It could use a BHO/BR operated without breaking grip, and an off side non reciprocal CH instead of what it has. But in terms of mag changes, reloads, safety ergonomics, etc. it’s pretty hard to beat. Take an AR based 9mm and your CX4 to the range. Try to put extra capacity, regular capacity, compact, and subcompact magazines into each. Many AR based designs are no issue with any of them. With the CX4 even some of the regular capacity are tough to slam in and lock. There’s just too much crap at the bottom of the grip or insert. But, forget that. Just do some basic manual of arms and firing procedures. Say, take a 30 round magazine, and do 15 “up downs”. As you come up, put on fire, shoot twice, as you come down put on safe. Compare on a shot timer. You will find the safety manipulation costs you a ton of time compared to and AR. Repeat locking and loading a 30 round mag. Have a second one ready to go in your mag holder. Now do a dozen “five loads”. Come up, five shots, drop mag, load the mag in your holder, five more. Pick up your mags and repeat. Between the small mag release and mags getting hung up in the grip, your timer will also reveal a significant disadvantage. Next do some “five forwards” Your mags only have five rounds. When you change mags you will need to hit the slide release. This will be less of a disadvantage, the shift of your firing hand to do it ends up costing a little more than using your reloading hand to hit the bolt release. And this is before getting to some of the known weaker internals, plastic hammer, absolutely flimsy slide out front rail, etc. I own two CX4s, getting close to 20 years on one of them- The mag releases wear out. I have even had a mag insert wear out. I am of the opinion that it is a decent home defense, rooftop Korean during a riot, hand to someone helping you get out of the city when the zombies are coming, etc. weapon. But regardless of who Beretta has sold them or the full auto versions to, I simply don’t view it as a military issue grade weapon. Yeah I would agree that it's probably not a good choice for a go to war, smack around gun but it's great for home defense. Mine has a 30 round mag in it at all times and four more 30 rounders on the belt. They are fast enough for me but I don't get to do much for range drills. Just dry fire reloads. I can say for sure that my CX4 mag changes are much faster than my MP5 changes. I have very little seat time with the AR manual of arms because I kind of hate it, so it's not any faster for me personally but I do hear what you're saying. However, if im grabbing and going for extended "warfare" im taking my AR10. (But im planning to replace that with a .308 K&M M17s in the future) |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 1:14:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I would agree that it's probably not a good choice for a go to war, smack around gun but it's great for home defense. Mine has a 30 round mag in it at all times and four more 30 rounders on the belt. They are fast enough for me but I don't get to do much for range drills. Just dry fire reloads. I can say for sure that my CX4 mag changes are much faster than my MP5 changes. I have very little seat time with the AR manual of arms because I kind of hate it, so it's not any faster for me personally but I do hear what you're saying. However, if im grabbing and going for extended "warfare" im taking my AR10. (But im planning to replace that with a .308 K&M M17s in the future) You will find a similar time deficit with bullpup manual of arms. And a few other cons. But there is not really another way to max barrel length to overall length so compactly. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 4:16:00 PM EDT
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Black CX4 on sale at EuroOptic for $549.
https://www.eurooptic.com/Beretta-Cx4-92-Series-9mm-166-Bbl-Rifle-w-1-20rd-Mag-JX49221M.aspx ETA: referral link is from ARFCOM, not me. Copy/paste the link text to avoid it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 4:21:11 PM EDT
[#39]
I think that's cheaper than I can get them from my distributors.
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Posted: 1/4/2023 6:05:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's cheaper than I can get them from my distributors. 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 1:16:16 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Black CX4 on sale at EuroOptic for $549. https://www.eurooptic.com/Beretta-Cx4-92-Series-9mm-166-Bbl-Rifle-w-1-20rd-Mag-JX49221M.aspx ETA: referral link is from ARFCOM, not me. Copy/paste the link text to avoid it. Can't believe I started this thread after buying one for $999. |
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Posted: 2/1/2023 1:56:44 PM EDT
[#42]
I just bought one from PSA. They were willing to take the mag out and ship it magless to WA. Before we got a mag ban I bought a bunch of the 30’s from the beretta Black Friday deal for something like $20 ea. I have a stash of the 17’s and 16’s as well.
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Posted: 2/1/2023 5:47:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought one from PSA. They were willing to take the mag out and ship it magless to WA. Before we got a mag ban I bought a bunch of the 30’s from the beretta Black Friday deal for something like $20 ea. I have a stash of the 17’s and 16’s as well. Are you in Massachusett's position, where you can still acquire pre-AWB mags that are nearly 30 years old at this point, or like Cali where you can't import anything but 10 rounders? |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 11:05:50 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't believe I started this thread after buying one for $999. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Black CX4 on sale at EuroOptic for $549. https://www.eurooptic.com/Beretta-Cx4-92-Series-9mm-166-Bbl-Rifle-w-1-20rd-Mag-JX49221M.aspx ETA: referral link is from ARFCOM, not me. Copy/paste the link text to avoid it. Can't believe I started this thread after buying one for $999. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 11:49:23 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you in Massachusett's position, where you can still acquire pre-AWB mags that are nearly 30 years old at this point, or like Cali where you can't import anything but 10 rounders? Cali. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 12:40:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe how cheap they are now. I assume this current pricing means these are going away to make room for the Tech-9 looking gimmick they are rolling out. Makes me concerned for replacement parts should the need arise. I think it was stated somewhere in the thread that the magazine sleeve and release are susceptible parts. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 1:09:20 PM EDT
[#47]
I want to see the new one when it comes out. Might FO.
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Posted: 2/2/2023 1:32:42 PM EDT
[#48]
If the CX4 is being officially exited, I'd say that is a good indication of a semiauto version of this new thing being brought to market.
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Posted: 2/2/2023 4:58:22 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume this current pricing means these are going away to make room for the Tech-9 looking gimmick they are rolling out. Makes me concerned for replacement parts should the need arise. I think it was stated somewhere in the thread that the magazine sleeve and release are susceptible parts. Likely because those are plastic parts interacting with metal magazines being inserted and ejected. I'd be curious about the round count where they were deemed in need of replacement. |
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Posted: 2/2/2023 5:07:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Likely because those are plastic parts interacting with metal magazines being inserted and ejected. I'd be curious about the round count where they were deemed in need of replacement. I worked in a gun shop many years ago. We had a Storm carbine on the rental wall. It was used multiple times a day. It never had any failures that I can remember. It had over 50,000 rounds through it and got cleaned maybe every few weeks. The grip sleeve was never a concern same as the mag release. |
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