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Posted: 8/2/2019 6:17:26 PM EDT
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Interesting. I checked it and it showed 2999, but then I logged in to check my Mil/Le discount. Let’s just say I couldn’t pass it up!!!!! Now OOS
Edit to say, I got their email listing it as back in stock. Logged in immediately, showed 1 in and bam checked out. Went back after the order and attempted to add to the cart again and it showed OOS backordered. Let’s hope it’s right.! Edit #2 - I called, I was the slower trigger finger. Two orders exact same time and I’m XXXXX05 the other guy was XXXXXX04... Edit #3 - DSG had another 3 show up and I got one of those, it shipped and I should have it this Thursday/Friday. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 8:23:15 PM EDT
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Interesting. I checked it and it showed 2999, but then I logged in to check my Mil/Le discount. Let’s just say I couldn’t pass it up!!!!! Now OOS Edit to say, I got their email listing it as back in stock. Logged in immediately, showed 1 in and bam checked out. Went back after the order and attempted to add to the cart again and it showed OOS backordered. Let’s hope it’s right.! Edit #2 - I called, I was the slower trigger finger. Two orders exact same time and I’m XXXXX05 the other guy was XXXXXX04... |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:59:23 PM EDT
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If anyone has found one, I would like a PM and try to buy it but so far everyone is out of stock.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 3:45:59 AM EDT
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If anyone has found one, I would like a PM and try to buy it but so far everyone is out of stock. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 9:50:16 AM EDT
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I’m a little concerned about the replaceable rubber bumper on the charging handle. Desert air and UV is very incompatible with any rubberized components and that just does t seem like a good thing. My SCARs have charging handles, no bumpers and no damage to the finish.
The other concern is that set screw you guys were talking about higher up on the thread. The YouTube video of that hog shooter says he has about 3k rounds through it no issues, zero malfunction and the screw uses vibratight on it or something like that. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 9:55:00 AM EDT
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I’m a little concerned about the replaceable rubber bumper on the charging handle. Desert air and UV is very incompatible with any rubberized components and that just does t seem like a good thing. My SCARs have charging handles, no bumpers and no damage to the finish. The other concern is that set screw you guys were talking about higher up on the thread. The YouTube video of that hog shooter says he has about 3k rounds through it no issues, zero malfunction and the screw uses vibratight on it or something like that. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:06:09 AM EDT
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Also concerned about the set screw. That's all that's holding in the barrel on a $3000 gun? Am I miss something? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I’m a little concerned about the replaceable rubber bumper on the charging handle. Desert air and UV is very incompatible with any rubberized components and that just does t seem like a good thing. My SCARs have charging handles, no bumpers and no damage to the finish. The other concern is that set screw you guys were talking about higher up on the thread. The YouTube video of that hog shooter says he has about 3k rounds through it no issues, zero malfunction and the screw uses vibratight on it or something like that. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:29:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:30:50 AM EDT
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That’s what the video shows us on page 2. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:54:31 AM EDT
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another pic of- old vs new....
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:56:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I saw it. LWRC has a big note / warning in the manual that the average user should never have to remove the barrel. Are they just Loctite'ing that screw in there and hoping people generally avoid taking it out? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 11:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat is bad ass. I had that HK rifle before and loved shooting it but couldn’t get mags so I sold it, around 2001.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 12:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it uses Vibra-tite with a 5 extraction lifespan before it must be reapplied. I was going out this morning to buy mine but now, not convinced. What if I get stuck with a $3k boat anchor and say LWRC doesn’t see fit to “improve” it later as some have suggested. I cannot accept the possibility of my firearm flying apart or failing to cycle because of a loctite screw coming loose. Damnit I want that gun but this may be a wallet impacting mistake LOL. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 1:39:00 PM EDT
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Is it going to be 45 ACP only? Will you be able to easily change calibers? For $3k I'd like the option for 9mm & 45 ACP. Maybe even 10mm. I've got an Octane 45 HD that I'd originally planned on using on this gun. I've had the suppressor for years now.. They should offer the B&T style 3-lugs on the barrels. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 1:44:07 PM EDT
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Is there any evidence that this will be a limited run? Has LWRC said that? On their Instagram page they said they're making them as fast as they can and selling every one.
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Posted: 8/3/2019 1:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has LWRC or anyone with information answered this question? Will it come in other calibers like 9mm or 10mm? I also found it interesting that one of the designers in a video said this was originally designed for an unnamed customer who wanted it in 45 ACP, but if they started today they would have done it in 9mm. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 2:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I emailed them and they said 9mm is "planned", but wouldn't give a timeline. Seeing as this was at SHOT for four years, I wouldn't hold your breath. Maybe eventually but not anytime soon. I also found it interesting that one of the designers in a video said this was originally designed for an unnamed customer who wanted it in 45 ACP, but if they started today they would have done it in 9mm. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 2:52:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is a multi cal lower unit and the upper is serialized. With this setup, they could offer a 9mm or 10mm version and just swap the bolt and barrel, done. If they’re smart. |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 2:53:18 PM EDT
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Has anyone else seen these in stock anywhere?
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Posted: 8/3/2019 4:35:10 PM EDT
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Has anyone else seen these in stock anywhere? |
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Posted: 8/3/2019 7:21:02 PM EDT
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What’s everyone actually paying?
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Posted: 8/3/2019 10:17:30 PM EDT
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What’s everyone actually paying? |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 11:49:07 AM EDT
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My new one, it is missing the thread protector on the barrel because the asshats at the LGS decided to dress it up and play house with it before I got there and put a suppressor on it. Apparently they failed to put the thread protector back on or in the box and I have reached out to them to find it and notify me they have it today. I am trying to hit the range today but it will be 109 so maybe not.
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Posted: 8/4/2019 12:33:04 PM EDT
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So is it possible to put a 3 lug and run a suppressor on it or not?
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Posted: 8/4/2019 12:51:35 PM EDT
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So is it possible to put a 3 lug and run a suppressor on it or not? |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 1:36:59 PM EDT
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My new one, it is missing the thread protector on the barrel because the asshats at the LGS decided to dress it up and play house with it before I got there and put a suppressor on it. Apparently they failed to put the thread protector back on or in the box and I have reached out to them to find it and notify me they have it today. I am trying to hit the range today but it will be 109 so maybe not. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2851/FF8752DC-9E6E-4CAF-B5A7-FE5020FBCE74_jpeg-1041828.JPG 
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Posted: 8/4/2019 2:13:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice gun. The only sore point here is the Brace, need to find an adapter and put a collapsible Maxim Defense style brace or an ACR style stock |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 3:35:11 PM EDT
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Has LWRC or anyone with information answered this question? Will it come in other calibers like 9mm or 10mm? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it going to be 45 ACP only? Will you be able to easily change calibers? For $3k I'd like the option for 9mm & 45 ACP. Maybe even 10mm. I've got an Octane 45 HD that I'd originally planned on using on this gun. I've had the suppressor for years now.. They should offer the B&T style 3-lugs on the barrels. |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 3:51:10 PM EDT
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The 9mm is for sure going to come in the near future as hinted by the LWRC reps at Shot Show.
Guess, 10mm delayed blowback is on the shortlist of a lot of people, including me 
Although, don’t have high hopes for it though. |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 3:52:45 PM EDT
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My new one, it is missing the thread protector on the barrel because the asshats at the LGS decided to dress it up and play house with it before I got there and put a suppressor on it. I am trying to hit the range today but it will be 109 so maybe not. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2851/FF8752DC-9E6E-4CAF-B5A7-FE5020FBCE74_jpeg-1041828.JPG |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 4:14:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I paid 2649+tax for mine. |
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Posted: 8/4/2019 6:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let us know how it shoots, and maybe a comparison between the 9mm PCCs like the CMMG Banshee or APC9 recoil impulse , smoothness wise if you have shot those. |
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Posted: 8/5/2019 5:52:17 PM EDT
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Interesting they chose to make the upper serialized. Why not the lower? As it is now, you'll have to buy a whole new firearm to swap to 9mm, or swap the bolt and barrel, which means unscrewing that set screw with only a 5 extraction lifetime? Perhaps the fact the upper is serialized says a lot about their future plans to make caliber conversion kits available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It is a multi cal lower unit and the upper is serialized. With this setup, they could offer a 9mm or 10mm version and just swap the bolt and barrel, done. If they're smart. |
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Posted: 8/5/2019 7:04:26 PM EDT
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By serializing the upper they allow new lowers to be installed without buying a new "firearm" (the serialized upper is the firearm, not the lower). That is important since a new lower will be needed to properly take new mags in different calibers. But it'll be a very expensive conversion, to the point that simply buying an entire new gun is probably not much more expensive. |
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Posted: 8/5/2019 7:16:43 PM EDT
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I would think that's one of the reasons behind using UMP mags. You can use 45, 40, and 9mm all in the same lower receiver. If/when they get around to different calibers it should just be a bolt & barrel change (maybe the spring too), much like the UMP. All in theory of course.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By serializing the upper they allow new lowers to be installed without buying a new "firearm" (the serialized upper is the firearm, not the lower). That is important since a new lower will be needed to properly take new mags in different calibers. But it'll be a very expensive conversion, to the point that simply buying an entire new gun is probably not much more expensive. |
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Posted: 8/5/2019 9:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great plan but I am not sure LWRC has the stomach to support it. The barrel tension screw is not a part they want to be user serviceable but it is/can be. It has very specific tolerances for reliable functionality and they have not shared this with us. Watch the YouTube video from the guy in Texas who has one and he shows how to disassemble the weapon and one of the items is the barrel tension screw. The factory used “Vibra-tite” on it. I want 10mm on this one but I will take 9mm as well. |
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Posted: 8/6/2019 4:59:24 PM EDT
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For anyone who has been lucky enough to grab one of these, have you shot it yet?
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Posted: 8/6/2019 5:11:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sadly I think you're right. I could see caliber conversions marketed more toward MIL/LE as the unit armorer would prob be 'factory trained' to service the gun. But at least it's a potential option for the future. Then again, I'll believe it whan I see it. MPX for example, was specifically marketed as being able to swap calibers and 4+ years later, still nothing. |
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Posted: 8/6/2019 11:42:38 PM EDT
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That barrel "set screw", does it seem it's meant to only keep the barrel from rotating in the upper receiver? It's not the only part holding the barrel in the receiver, does it?
At 5:57 in this YT video, the guy explains the channel in the barrel where the set screw goes, and at 6:59 he discusses when the set screw is set too tight, the barrel is prevented from moving in and out of the upper: https://youtu.be/YZznVWtEmKE . |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 1:37:29 AM EDT
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Would like to know whether the stock adapter is proprietary as well.
I’d be much more interested in a version without a brace that was a hundred bucks cheaper. |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 9:02:03 AM EDT
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Would like to know whether the stock adapter is proprietary as well. I’d be much more interested in a version without a brace that was a hundred bucks cheaper. Edit: Spoke with LWRC. It's proprietary. I guess no one will be SBR'ing this for a while. There's supposed to be an AR buffer tube available at some point, but LWRC doesn't know when it will be available. Their past history probably means a long time, if ever. :/ Edit 2: Spoke with SB Tactical. They say it's the HK UMP mount and the brace is their SBTi. I think SB is correct... |
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Posted: 8/7/2019 4:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd also like to know this. Is the mounting system for the brace proprietary? It looks like it might be the same mount as an APC9 or HK UMP? Edit: Spoke with LWRC. It's proprietary. I guess no one will be SBR'ing this for a while. There's supposed to be an AR buffer tube available at some point, but LWRC doesn't know when it will be available. Their past history probably means a long time, if ever. :/ Edit 2: Spoke with SB Tactical. They say it's the HK UMP mount and the brace is their SBTi. I think SB is correct... |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 1:41:24 AM EDT
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Found these two videos, took a while as they are not very searchable but here it goes, with and without suppressor:
https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101707644296434748_5912090343 https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101697294557595657_5912090343 Recoil is minimal as hell! I have got to get to the range. Do you hear me, weather?!? |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 7:13:04 AM EDT
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Found these two videos, took a while as they are not very searchable but here it goes, with and without suppressor: https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101707644296434748_5912090343 https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101697294557595657_5912090343 Recoil is minimal as hell! I have got to get to the range. Do you hear me, weather?!?
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Posted: 8/8/2019 3:18:15 PM EDT
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Now in stock at Rainier Arms for anyone looking for one.
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Posted: 8/8/2019 3:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Found these two videos, took a while as they are not very searchable but here it goes, with and without suppressor: https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101707644296434748_5912090343 https://www.instastalker.net/media/2101697294557595657_5912090343 Recoil is minimal as hell! I have got to get to the range. Do you hear me, weather?!? |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 3:37:17 PM EDT
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is it just me or does it look gassy as hell unsuppressed? Silver bear .45 will leave you choking
(2015 video...)  .45 SBR test |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 3:39:09 PM EDT
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Picked mine up today. Holy s**t it's well built. I have a lot of high end stuff - Wilson Combats, etc. and this is up there for sure. Any questions about it let me know. I'm hoping to shoot it tomorrow.
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Posted: 8/8/2019 9:30:32 PM EDT
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Picked mine up today. Holy s**t it's well built. I have a lot of high end stuff - Wilson Combats, etc. and this is up there for sure. Any questions about it let me know. I'm hoping to shoot it tomorrow. |
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Posted: 8/8/2019 10:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, let us know! I share your sentiment regarding build quality. Does your charging handle require a good bit of force to retract the bolt? Mine is heavy to charge. |
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