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Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
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Originally Posted By Kent:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
B&T GHM9 update: FYI — serial numbers and the feed ramp update for Hollow Point/Flat Nose ammunition As has been discussed, some early serial number examples of the GHM9 did not function well with hollow point rounds and certain flat-nose bullet profiles, and thus needed to have their feed ramp replaced with a newer, HP-friendly feed ramp. In some of these discussions, it had been mentioned that serial numbers starting with “US 17-xxxxx” or “US 18-xxxxx” had the upgraded part already in place, but “US 16-xxxxx” models needed the update. However this seems to be only partially correct, as the production changeover for the redesigned feed ramp apparently happened during the “US 16-xxxxx” run, as some later weapons falling into that "US 16" SN range have been found to already have the updated ramp installed. The upshot of all this is just to let people know that not all GHM9 “US 16-xxxxx” weapons are in need of the update. My example is “US 16-224xx” (purchased new) and I have verified with B&T USA that it indeed already had the newer ramp in place. PS: B&T Customer Service continues to impress me, actually responding to my email request over the *weekend*! Extremely high quality weapons AND top-notch Customer Service??? Bravo! *You need to pay out-of-pocket to ship the upper to B&T USA (they need ONLY the upper, so the box is small so the shipping isn't too bad). *Your $50 upgrade fee covers installation of the new feedramp, and also covers the shipping to return the upper back to you via overnight (or 2-day air -- can't remember which). *It is only the feedramp that gets replaced -- it is a bolt-in part, so no welding or grinding happens. *The turn-around is 1-2 weeks. I don't know if they throw in any 'gifts' or not, since I haven't had to do it. I think they look at it as more of an 'upgrade' rather than a 'fix', since the weapon was designed to function 100% on ball ammo (which I've been told is all civilians and even police can have, in a lot of Europe -- thus the need for the 'upgrade' was only here in the USA). Looking forward to the before/after and your experience with the update! |
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Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Thanks! I'll get it ready Saturday...Pics before and after .. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
B&T GHM9 update: FYI — serial numbers and the feed ramp update for Hollow Point/Flat Nose ammunition As has been discussed, some early serial number examples of the GHM9 did not function well with hollow point rounds and certain flat-nose bullet profiles, and thus needed to have their feed ramp replaced with a newer, HP-friendly feed ramp. In some of these discussions, it had been mentioned that serial numbers starting with “US 17-xxxxx” or “US 18-xxxxx” had the upgraded part already in place, but “US 16-xxxxx” models needed the update. However this seems to be only partially correct, as the production changeover for the redesigned feed ramp apparently happened during the “US 16-xxxxx” run, as some later weapons falling into that "US 16" SN range have been found to already have the updated ramp installed. The upshot of all this is just to let people know that not all GHM9 “US 16-xxxxx” weapons are in need of the update. My example is “US 16-224xx” (purchased new) and I have verified with B&T USA that it indeed already had the newer ramp in place. PS: B&T Customer Service continues to impress me, actually responding to my email request over the *weekend*! Extremely high quality weapons AND top-notch Customer Service??? Bravo! *You need to pay out-of-pocket to ship the upper to B&T USA (they need ONLY the upper, so the box is small so the shipping isn't too bad). *Your $50 upgrade fee covers installation of the new feedramp, and also covers the shipping to return the upper back to you via overnight (or 2-day air -- can't remember which). *It is only the feedramp that gets replaced -- it is a bolt-in part, so no welding or grinding happens. *The turn-around is 1-2 weeks. I don't know if they throw in any 'gifts' or not, since I haven't had to do it. I think they look at it as more of an 'upgrade' rather than a 'fix', since the weapon was designed to function 100% on ball ammo (which I've been told is all civilians and even police can have, in a lot of Europe -- thus the need for the 'upgrade' was only here in the USA). |
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Originally Posted By bestiller:
Instead of emailing, I’d call B&T USA in Tampa 813-653-1200 lady that usually answers the phone is Jessica Scott, super nice, great to deal with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bestiller:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
B&T GHM9 update: FYI — serial numbers and the feed ramp update for Hollow Point/Flat Nose ammunition As has been discussed, some early serial number examples of the GHM9 did not function well with hollow point rounds and certain flat-nose bullet profiles, and thus needed to have their feed ramp replaced with a newer, HP-friendly feed ramp. In some of these discussions, it had been mentioned that serial numbers starting with “US 17-xxxxx” or “US 18-xxxxx” had the upgraded part already in place, but “US 16-xxxxx” models needed the update. However this seems to be only partially correct, as the production changeover for the redesigned feed ramp apparently happened during the “US 16-xxxxx” run, as some later weapons falling into that "US 16" SN range have been found to already have the updated ramp installed. The upshot of all this is just to let people know that not all GHM9 “US 16-xxxxx” weapons are in need of the update. My example is “US 16-224xx” (purchased new) and I have verified with B&T USA that it indeed already had the newer ramp in place. PS: B&T Customer Service continues to impress me, actually responding to my email request over the *weekend*! Extremely high quality weapons AND top-notch Customer Service??? Bravo! *You need to pay out-of-pocket to ship the upper to B&T USA (they need ONLY the upper, so the box is small so the shipping isn't too bad). *Your $50 upgrade fee covers installation of the new feedramp, and also covers the shipping to return the upper back to you via overnight (or 2-day air -- can't remember which). *It is only the feedramp that gets replaced -- it is a bolt-in part, so no welding or grinding happens. *The turn-around is 1-2 weeks. I don't know if they throw in any 'gifts' or not, since I haven't had to do it. I think they look at it as more of an 'upgrade' rather than a 'fix', since the weapon was designed to function 100% on ball ammo (which I've been told is all civilians and even police can have, in a lot of Europe -- thus the need for the 'upgrade' was only here in the USA). |
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Originally Posted By bestiller:
Instead of emailing, I’d call B&T USA in Tampa 813-653-1200 lady that usually answers the phone is Jessica Scott, super nice, great to deal with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bestiller:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
Originally Posted By exotic-toys:
Originally Posted By Kent:
B&T GHM9 update: FYI — serial numbers and the feed ramp update for Hollow Point/Flat Nose ammunition As has been discussed, some early serial number examples of the GHM9 did not function well with hollow point rounds and certain flat-nose bullet profiles, and thus needed to have their feed ramp replaced with a newer, HP-friendly feed ramp. In some of these discussions, it had been mentioned that serial numbers starting with “US 17-xxxxx” or “US 18-xxxxx” had the upgraded part already in place, but “US 16-xxxxx” models needed the update. However this seems to be only partially correct, as the production changeover for the redesigned feed ramp apparently happened during the “US 16-xxxxx” run, as some later weapons falling into that "US 16" SN range have been found to already have the updated ramp installed. The upshot of all this is just to let people know that not all GHM9 “US 16-xxxxx” weapons are in need of the update. My example is “US 16-224xx” (purchased new) and I have verified with B&T USA that it indeed already had the newer ramp in place. PS: B&T Customer Service continues to impress me, actually responding to my email request over the *weekend*! Extremely high quality weapons AND top-notch Customer Service??? Bravo! *You need to pay out-of-pocket to ship the upper to B&T USA (they need ONLY the upper, so the box is small so the shipping isn't too bad). *Your $50 upgrade fee covers installation of the new feedramp, and also covers the shipping to return the upper back to you via overnight (or 2-day air -- can't remember which). *It is only the feedramp that gets replaced -- it is a bolt-in part, so no welding or grinding happens. *The turn-around is 1-2 weeks. I don't know if they throw in any 'gifts' or not, since I haven't had to do it. I think they look at it as more of an 'upgrade' rather than a 'fix', since the weapon was designed to function 100% on ball ammo (which I've been told is all civilians and even police can have, in a lot of Europe -- thus the need for the 'upgrade' was only here in the USA). |
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Originally Posted By shadowskinner:
Hi, can someone link me to where I can buy just the buttplate for the Telescopic brace with Tailhook? I just filed my Form 1 and would like to change the Tailhook to the B&T buttplate. Google isn't turning up anything. Thanks in advance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shadowskinner:
Originally Posted By Rob21SF:
Originally Posted By sqwerl:
If you buy the collapsible/telescopic brace and tailhook, then you SBR the gun, how hard is it to remove the tailhook and add the factory butt plate that's originally shipped with the stock assembly? Assuming you can find just the butt plate. |
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Originally Posted By shadowskinner:
Bump....Looking to buy just the B&T buttplate to fit on the Tech Smith telescopic brace. Anyone know where to buy this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shadowskinner:
Originally Posted By shadowskinner:
Originally Posted By Rob21SF:
Originally Posted By sqwerl:
If you buy the collapsible/telescopic brace and tailhook, then you SBR the gun, how hard is it to remove the tailhook and add the factory butt plate that's originally shipped with the stock assembly? Assuming you can find just the butt plate. https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=57_123 They have the B&T telescopic stocks and they sell the brace adapter by itself that the GearHead Works brace fits on. |
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HB Industries Reduced Weight Selector Springs for the GHM9 -- my experience
Today I installed the "HB Industries Reduced Weight Selector Springs" on my GHM9. (Note: their website headlines them as for the "B&T APC", but the same springs fit both APC *and* GHM9, and they say as much once you delve into the description) I always thought the safety as-delivered on my GHM9 operated a little too stiffly and was difficult to snap into the 'safe' position by a quick 'up' movement of my thumb. I could do it, sure, but it felt 'wrong' like I was having to use too much effort or something was binding. The HBI kit was cheap and looked easy to install, so I thought I'd give it a go. INSTALL: Installation was relatively easy -- just followed the YouTube instructions. The video mentions this, but I'll post yet another reminder to be cautious about that right side lever attachment spring & plunger (the plunger/spring that holds the right side safety lever on). When I was re-installing that lever, my finger slipped and that tiny tiny spring launched itself into low-earth orbit. Took me about 15 mins of crawling around to find that little bugger. Don't let this happen to you. Actual install time (not counting the time I was tracking down that wayward spring) was about 5 mins. RESULTS: After I had installed the L&R HBI safety springs, and got everything back together, I found that the safety lever *did* manipulate easier -- in fact, I thought it was a little TOO easy for my preference. The lever action now felt kinda cheap and almost a little toy-like, to be honest. Uh oh. I thought a minute and figured that I would try a compromise position, by reinstalling just 1 of the factory-original detent springs on the right-side detent plunger, and leaving the left-side detent plunger equipped with the lighter HBI spring. I am happy to say that I am now completely satisfied with the "1 of each spring" result, as it is definitely easier than the factory setup, but still very positive and more firm than having both sides equipped with the softer HBI springs. Since the total cost of the HBI spring kit is extremely reasonable at less than $5 for the pair, I don't feel bad about using only 1 of them. The good thing is that by having the option to use either one or both HBI springs, you can have a choice as to how stiff you want the movement of your GHM9 safety lever to be -- "extra firm" (factory springs both sides), "firm" (1 side factory spring and the other side HBI spring), or "soft" (both sides using HBI springs). Choices are good. I do recommend the upgrade. |
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I’ve got the GHM9 Compact and my selectors are not stiff at all, they are crisp but no worse than any HK I’ve handled. My only problem was that the right side safety dug into the top of my trigger finger.
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
I’ve got the GHM9 Compact and my selectors are not stiff at all, they are crisp but no worse than any HK I’ve handled. My only problem was that the right side safety dug into the top of my trigger finger. View Quote https://hbindustries.net/store/product-category/bt-products/ Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Nulllogik: Folding brace w/tailhook adapter from Custom Smith MFG and his cheek riser. Just changed the name of his company from Tech Smith MFG. The riser and tailhook adapter are both 3D printed but are very well made. I’m really happy with how it’s set up. It’s also able to be shot while it’s folded too. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/160528/308D81A1-DB96-4A51-9265-AB4002CE7E92-643299.JPG This is the area I removed material from the Geissele SSA to get it to function properly in case anyone was curious. Not suggesting anyone else try it, but it’s worked great for me. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TEXASGUNGUY022003:
https://i.imgur.com/7vgERb4.jpg View Quote |
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Are Gen1 and Gen2 lowers identical?
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Originally Posted By ripro:
Are Gen1 and Gen2 lowers identical? View Quote What many are calling "Gen 2" fullsize GHM is not really "Gen 2" at all, and instead is actually a Gen 1 with the revised "hollowpoint-friendly" feed ramp factory installed. (Looking at you, Atlantic...) In reality, I think they are talking about a model with a Gen2 *feedramp* and not an entire Gen2 *weapon*, but the language is so sloppy that the casual buyer wouldn't know the difference. The REAL "Gen 2" GHM has a removable front section on the upper, allowing users to switch the length of the 'shroud' to match either short or long barrel configurations. So given that info, YES, there is definitely a big difference between *actual* Gen1/2 UPPERS, but not sure about the lowers. Since the GHM lower is shared between a couple B&T models, I'm not sure they would be quick to change it without substantial cause. The only "Gen2" lower for the GHM9 I've heard about is the Glock-mag GHM lower, and from what I have read, it will not supercede/replace all existing lowers, but instead will be sold as an accessory lower to other standard-mag GHMs as well as factory equipped. |
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Thanks for the info Kent--I'm hoping my Gen1 Compact will be able use the Glock mag lowers after a bolt upgrade. I'm not so worried about the rail or barrel modularity and kind of prefer the seamless look.
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Originally Posted By ripro:
Thanks for the info Kent--I'm hoping my Gen1 Compact will be able use the Glock mag lowers after a bolt upgrade. I'm not so worried about the rail or barrel modularity and kind of prefer the seamless look. View Quote Not sure if they have a bolt and feed ramp that will work 100% reliably with both the standard double-row fed magazines *and* Glock's single center feed mags, but we'll see. With B&T's reputation, I'm quite confident their engineers have figured out a very reliable solution either way. If you have time, post some pics of your feed ramp and bolt face when you receive your weapon? (open invitation for anyone to do so, actually :) ) |
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I've been having some malfunctions when the mag is almost empty. Wondering if I need the jet funnel?
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Originally Posted By CrimsonTideShooter:
I've been having some malfunctions when the mag is almost empty. Wondering if I need the jet funnel? View Quote The funnel presents a flared opening to aid in magazine changes, it won’t have any affect on magazine function itself. |
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Originally Posted By ripro:
Here it is https://i.postimg.cc/gJphbZxn/ghm9c.jpg This is a GHM9 Compact Gen1 (one piece upper, no removable rail section). According to the Tarheel dealer description the Gen2 has a different bolt. I guess we'll see the difference soon View Quote Interesting about the "bolt cuts" that can be seen on yours. Here is a comparison of my "fullsize" GHM9 Gen1 bolt face and your "compact" GHM9 Gen1 bolt face. " /> It almost looks like those bolt cuts that can be seen in your Compact bolt (and are NOT present in my Fullsize bolt) *might* be to allow the bolt to slide through the "U" shape cut in the top of Glock magazines, doesn't it? Perhaps your Compact Gen1 bolt is already "Glock lower conversion" ready? I cannot think of any other reason for those cuts to be there. I wonder if those bolt cuts are present on ALL Compact Gen1's or just later production units? |
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Originally Posted By ripro:
Well that's great news! I'm guessing I may only need the Glock lower then. My Serial is ~25500 https://i.postimg.cc/85JCBwcr/ghm9cg1.jpg Hopefully someone starts making some aftermarket mags, I'm not your typical B&T demographic View Quote Now, I regularly see factory GHM9 30 rnd mags online for about $42-$44 which seems pretty reasonable for an OEM high-quality pistol caliber 30rnd mag. For comparison, most of the OEM 30 round Glock mags I've seen are $30-$35 online -- so Glock mags are still a bit cheaper, but no longer are they drastically cheaper as was the case at GHM9 intro. |
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Originally Posted By Kent:
For comparison, most of the OEM 30 round Glock mags I've seen are $30-$35 online View Quote |
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G&R Tactical has both GHM9 Gen2s in stock right now.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/BT-GHM9-9mm-GEN2-Compact-Pistol-W-Aimpoint-NANO_p_1201.html http://www.gandrtactical.com/BT-GHM9-9mm-GEN2-Compact-Pistol_p_1200.html |
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Originally Posted By TEXASGUNGUY022003:
https://i.imgur.com/7vgERb4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XpdcRfe.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By cedjunior:
You can get the delete for that. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By bestiller: HB Industries safety delete https://hbindustries.net/store/product-category/bt-products/ https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/E3ACF4BB-93B1-4BDD-9A8F-B5738A4D0372-689595.JPG View Quote And done! |
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Originally Posted By Kent: Thanks for posting that pic. Interesting about the "bolt cuts" that can be seen on yours. Here is a comparison of my "fullsize" GHM9 Gen1 bolt face and your "compact" GHM9 Gen1 bolt face. https://i.postimg.cc/0NmmKRWm/GHM9-boltcomp-_FSvs_Comp-gen1.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/0NmmKRWm/GHM9-boltcomp-_FSvs_Comp-gen1.jpg It almost looks like those bolt cuts that can be seen in your Compact bolt (and are NOT present in my Fullsize bolt) *might* be to allow the bolt to slide through the "U" shape cut in the top of Glock magazines, doesn't it? Perhaps your Compact Gen1 bolt is already "Glock lower conversion" ready? I cannot think of any other reason for those cuts to be there. I wonder if those bolt cuts are present on ALL Compact Gen1's or just later production units? View Quote Here is my Gen 2 Compact bolt, it does look like there is extra machining. Looks identical to your Gen 1 Compact. |
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So I had a couple APC9s and loved them. Had to sell them due to some medical bills. Was about to pick up another one, but can't stop looking at the GHM9 compact. Anyone out there that own or has owned both want to help my decision on which way to go?
Intended Purpose would be in a small backpack, something my wife or son could mess with, Mostly a range toy. Something about how the compact looks with that collapsing brace gets me. |
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Originally Posted By Montesf1030:
https://imgur.com/gallery/xgJ7ISv Here is my GHM9 Compact during a range trip !!! Just awesome View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MacThePunisher:
So I had a couple APC9s and loved them. Had to sell them due to some medical bills. Was about to pick up another one, but can't stop looking at the GHM9 compact. Anyone out there that own or has owned both want to help my decision on which way to go? Intended Purpose would be in a small backpack, something my wife or son could mess with, Mostly a range toy. Something about how the compact looks with that collapsing brace gets me. View Quote |
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Permit/Control No: ********* Your Reference No: Submission Date: 2018-10-05-04:00 Form ID: ATF FORM 1 (5320.1) - APPLICATION TO MAKE AND REGISTER A FIREARM 10 days with E-file!!!!! GHM9 is SBR approved!!!! |
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This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to APPROVED Permit/Control No: ********* Your Reference No: Submission Date: 2018-10-05-04:00 Form ID: ATF FORM 1 (5320.1) - APPLICATION TO MAKE AND REGISTER A FIREARM 10 days with E-file!!!!! GHM9 is SBR approved!!!! View Quote |
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What about mailing in fingerprints, etc?
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Originally Posted By Skullsoldier: I own both. I prefer the balance of the GHM9 compact to my APC SBR. I have a hard time rationalizing the APC now given that the GHM9 has essentially the same feature set (except the 3-lug on the compact). I'm also skeptical as to the durability of the APC backups sights. View Quote Now the hunt starts for a Compact and a Telescoping Brace. |
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Love both of them ... B&T is a smother shooter but you can’t beat the price of the Stribog ... Lot better quality than the CZ Scorpion Evo with I also have
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