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When it comes to 22LR stuff I tend to pass unless it is something I can't have any other way.
... like a 22LR HK MP7. I'd buy that in a heartbeat. |
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Quoted: For actual combat use, 9mm all day erryday. But for a fun gun / suppressor host - the TP380 has some serious appeal. The form factor is even more compact: http://aftermathgunclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/TP380-Compare-1.jpg It also uses a regularly threaded barrel, so it can use a conventional 9mm suppressor (not just the uber cool but uber expensive Rotex for the MP9). Lastly, .380 operates at 16-20kpsi and uses 2-3gr powder, vs 30-38kpsi and 5-8gr powder. So I imagine that the TP380 will be a good deal quieter then the MP9 suppressed. TL;DR - TP380 is a tiny, state of the art and super quiet suppressor host. View Quote |
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Now that is a convincing argument! Thanks.
Quoted: For actual combat use, 9mm all day erryday. But for a fun gun / suppressor host - the TP380 has some serious appeal. The form factor is even more compact: http://aftermathgunclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/TP380-Compare-1.jpg It also uses a regularly threaded barrel, so it can use a conventional 9mm suppressor (not just the uber cool but uber expensive Rotex for the MP9). Lastly, .380 operates at 16-20kpsi and uses 2-3gr powder, vs 30-38kpsi and 5-8gr powder. So I imagine that the TP380 will be a good deal quieter then the MP9 suppressed. TL;DR - TP380 is a tiny, state of the art and super quiet suppressor host. View Quote |
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Quoted: Curious if it’s a direct blowbacknor if it has some form of a delay, since clearly it does not have the same barrel shroud/delay as the MP9. View Quote I'll be at SHOT and will ask them (along with begging them for a TP9 that takes Glock mags and a 5.7 TP9.) |
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Quoted: I'm curious as well. I suspect it's likely a direct blowback, then with some type of urethane/shock absorbing rubber buffer that the bolt impacts. I'll be at SHOT and will ask them (along with begging them for a TP9 that takes Glock mags and a 5.7 TP9.) View Quote https://instagram.com/p/BdX3BnWgwnE/ Thanks for the kind words about TFB. We have fun. |
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Quoted: I'm curious as well. I suspect it's likely a direct blowback, then with some type of urethane/shock absorbing rubber buffer that the bolt impacts. I'll be at SHOT and will ask them (along with begging them for a TP9 that takes Glock mags and a 5.7 TP9.) View Quote I pretty well remember him saying that he doesnt understand what all the desire for it is. Something to the tune of "if you could put a Glock 42 in a chassis you would be just as well off.", at the time ETS hadnt even announced their extended mags for the 42 and I told him that was another reason the tp380 had an advantage that couldnt me matched. Eta: this was in the spring of 2016 when they were just getting going with suppressors and such. |
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God damn, B&T is awesome.
I didn't really like the idea of .380 tp9 but the fact that it's smaller and can use a regular suppressor is pretty damn cool. |
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I've got B&T accessories from this guy before and he is top notch. I saw this deal on magazines for $46 and thought I'd share https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store View Quote |
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Hey is anyone here handy with Photoshop?
I want to pitch B&T at SHOT on: -A TP9 that takes Glock mags -A TP9 in 5.7x28 that takes Five Seven mags Could anyone here do a photoshop mockup of what a TP9/MP9 would look like with a G19 Gen 5 grip of FN Five Seven grip? I feel like having a visual prop will make a better case for both. |
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Hey is anyone here handy with Photoshop? I want to pitch B&T at SHOT on: -A TP9 that takes Glock mags -A TP9 in 5.7x28 that takes Five Seven mags Could anyone here do a photoshop mockup of what a TP9/MP9 would look like with a G19 Gen 5 grip of FN Five Seven grip? I feel like having a visual prop will make a better case for both. View Quote |
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On a somewhat related note:
For those with TP9's, do your mags drop free when empty? Mine don't, some report that theirs do. |
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I would give anything for the 5.7, but I see zero chance of them doing either one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hey is anyone here handy with Photoshop? I want to pitch B&T at SHOT on: -A TP9 that takes Glock mags -A TP9 in 5.7x28 that takes Five Seven mags Could anyone here do a photoshop mockup of what a TP9/MP9 would look like with a G19 Gen 5 grip of FN Five Seven grip? I feel like having a visual prop will make a better case for both. |
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Just doing a quick update on the grip project. I'm going to change a few dimensions based feedback I've received.
I found another company that does 3d printing but its much stronger than some of the others I've dealt with in the past. They sent me out little .125" thick "cards" samples of different materials. 2 of them I couldn't break with my hands. I'm getting some .125" delrin to compare it too. As much as I would have liked it to be cnc'ed I simply can't find anyone do to it for a reasonable price. But this is pretty cool because it will allow me to get cheaper production samples before we do the big order. The bad news is we're getting more delays. The good news is I'm learning. So next thing that I decide to make will hopefully be much easier to get to you guys. |
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I'm actually communicating with a company called solid concepts. You may know them from when they printed a DMLS 1911. They also had a hand in prototyping the Hudson HS9. Pretty cool company so hopefully I won't have to speak in code with them like some other companies, lol.
"It's a um.. paintball gun grip" |
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Thank you. If you don't mind me asking, is that with the bolt open? Mine's a Gen 2(?) DSA import but with the 3 lug barrel, not the original threaded import. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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In my gen 1 DSA gun the empty mags definitely do not drop free.
I have a smattering of original solid black Steyr TMP mags, the original mags my TP9 came with, and various generations of B&T mags. |
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I'm actually communicating with a company called solid concepts. You may know them from when they printed a DMLS 1911. They also had a hand in prototyping the Hudson HS9. Pretty cool company so hopefully I won't have to speak in code with them like some other companies, lol. "It's a um.. paintball gun grip" View Quote |
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Got my Lage forward canted vertical grip today. Not blown away, but better than the Magpul MOE I had on it. HALFNATTYGAINZ, you need to come through, before I have spent enough to buy a TP9-N on vertical grips for my current TP9
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Got my Lage forward canted vertical grip today. Not blown away, but better than the Magpul MOE I had on it. HALFNATTYGAINZ, you need to come through, before I have spent enough to buy a TP9-N on vertical grips for my current TP9 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59839/IMG_1250-428382.JPG View Quote I'm hoping to hear this week at Shot when the TP9N will be available. I'm tempted to go ahead and get the suppressor going but it seems like bad juju to buy a specific can without even trying the host out yet. |
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I'm waiting to file my taxes and see how much I'm going to get hosed before I order a can but my goal is to get a TP9 can and either a standard 3 lug can or a thread on for my USW. Both would be an awesome luxury. We'll see.
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I'm waiting to file my taxes and see how much I'm going to get hosed before I order a can but my goal is to get a TP9 can and either a standard 3 lug can or a thread on for my USW. Both would be an awesome luxury. We'll see. View Quote Im ready to buy one, and its been on my mind long enough that I know its more than a compulsive purchase. My only fear is dropping the coin on it and finding out about a striker fired version. |
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Either way, you won't regret it. I have a feeling they may drop a striker fire at SHOT. It's was supposed to be out last fall but I got tired of waiting.
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I haven't seen any B&T SHOT posts yet but I'm waiting as well.
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I saw a few photos on Instagram. There was an APC9SD and a drum mag for the APC9. It's hard to tell if the drum mag will fit the TP9.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeT5yCen2yz/ |
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It looks to me like it would need a new tower for the TP9. Hopefully I am wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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They said they were going to release a tri-lug adapter for the TP9 suppressor... that might be it.
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If anyone passes by today, put in a request for a TP9 slider stock/brace for me.
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View Quote -VP9 cans: what are they threaded for? I'm still jonesin for my new TP9 but happy to see a 3 lug mount for the can. Looking forward to "additional B&T news" too. |
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