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Posted: 9/2/2022 11:15:37 AM EDT
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B&T Parts USA Shop Sale today. 7% off with code LABORDAY2022.
Free shipping over $100. https://bt-parts.com/ |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2022 5:03:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triode: B&T Parts USA Shop Sale today. 7% off with code LABORDAY2022. Free shipping over $100. https://bt-parts.com/ Perfect timing, was in the process of nabbing a TP9 stock from secondary market, and the discount and current availability make it a bit more palatable. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2022 3:44:06 PM EDT
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Decided I wanted to burn even more ammo so I bought a binary for my APC9K. Anyone have any experience running a binary on these?
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Posted: 9/4/2022 3:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Decided I wanted to burn even more ammo so I bought a binary for my APC9K. Anyone have any experience running a binary on these? The one review I watched of the gun in general the guy had a binary in one and it did not run great. Ymmv |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2022 5:39:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: peachy]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktalk: The one review I watched of the gun in general the guy had a binary in one and it did not run great. Ymmv I saw a few like that when I was briefly interested in a binary. You can’t work the trigger as fast as possible or the hammer will follow the bolt down. It appeared you had to learn the max possible speed for reliable cycling and slow yourself down to stay below that speed. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 9:29:31 AM EDT
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In case anyone wants the NSN number for a UID label for their SCW clone...here is the info:
https://www.lqlite.com/LQ_FLIS.aspx?NSN=1005-01-679-7146 |
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Posted: 9/11/2022 12:47:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HeavyArtillery]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: In case anyone wants the NSN number for a UID label for their SCW clone...here is the info: https://www.lqlite.com/LQ_FLIS.aspx?NSN=1005-01-679-7146 Thanks for sharing. I've been looking out for a rapid order SKU/stock number for a standard configuration including sights, etc. I still haven't seen one which indicates all the orders are being pieced together by the procuring agencies. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/11/2022 3:59:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyArtillery: Thanks for sharing. I've been looking out for a rapid order SKU/stock number for a standard configuration including sights, etc. I still haven't seen one which indicates all the orders are being pieced together by the procuring agencies. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyArtillery: Originally Posted By thehun06: In case anyone wants the NSN number for a UID label for their SCW clone...here is the info: https://www.lqlite.com/LQ_FLIS.aspx?NSN=1005-01-679-7146 Thanks for sharing. I've been looking out for a rapid order SKU/stock number for a standard configuration including sights, etc. I still haven't seen one which indicates all the orders are being pieced together by the procuring agencies. PSDs have a decent latitude on how they kit their guns out...so not sure there is a standard config loadout per say...I don't believe B&T provides the "kits" just the APC9Ks per the solicitation...I think all the add ons are whatever is in the NSN system... |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 4:49:55 PM EDT
[#9]
 Attached FileWill probably change optics but honestly it’s not bad Might go with a mod button for the light but the pressure switch on the vfg works just fine. Overall pretty fun little package. The boxes behind the gun are subs in anticipation of my suppressor. |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 5:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktalk: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/127639/2BA869B1-90C2-42B9-8F2E-8AF37E591AB3_jpe-2523828.JPG Will probably change optics but honestly it’s not bad Might go with a mod button for the light but the pressure switch on the vfg works just fine. Overall pretty fun little package. The boxes behind the gun are subs in anticipation of my suppressor. What can did you purchase? |
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Posted: 9/13/2022 1:14:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: What can did you purchase? A rugged obsidian 9 The tri lug on my sbr is from rugged as well. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/14/2022 8:17:27 AM EDT
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Is there a compiled list of compatible triggers yet for the APC9? I searched...found nothing...just random this and that...
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Posted: 9/14/2022 7:37:35 PM EDT
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geisele used to make one but saying discontinued??
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:57:31 AM EDT
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I’m looking to switch lowers. I have one that takes Glock mags that is like new with the B&T mag well. Anyone have a Glock lower for sale or would be willing to trade.
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USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:08:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#15]
@steve0 I have a Glock lower up for grabs...I think that is your question! https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/APC9-PRO-GHM9-Glock-Complete-Lower-TAN-with-Glock-33rd-Tan-Mags/180-2288815/
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: @steve0 I have a Glock lower up for grabs...I think that is your question! https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/APC9-PRO-GHM9-Glock-Complete-Lower-TAN-with-Glock-33rd-Tan-Mags/180-2288815/ Thanks. Unfortunately I’m looking for a black lower. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve0: Thanks. Unfortunately I’m looking for a black lower. @steve0 just Rite Dye it black … easy fix … I’ve done it to a lot of tan polymer stuff … |
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USA
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:37:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#18]
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:46:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
[#19]
Since we are taking lowers… just picked up the B&T Machined lower for my APC9 pro. Extremely well done B&T! The machined lower has selector stops and a decent flared magwell.
 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 10:41:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Since we are taking lowers… just picked up the B&T Machined lower for my APC9 pro. Extremely well done B&T! The machined lower has selector stops and a decent flared magwell. Very nice. I also like the look of the grooves in front of the magwell. What inspired you to pickup the aluminum lower? What is the weight difference? Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/24/2022 11:46:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyArtillery: Very nice. I also like the look of the grooves in front of the magwell. What inspired you to pickup the aluminum lower? What is the weight difference? Thanks. Sorry for the late replay. No reason in particular, just wanted something different. The weight difference isn’t really noticeable while on the gun itself. But measured on the scale the factory lower with bT Grip measures 12.4 oz while the machined aluminum lower with Magpul Grip 18.0 oz. I will say the machined lower in combination with the upper gives the gun a more premium feel if that makes any sense at all. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: Sorry for the late replay. No reason in particular, just wanted something different. The weight difference isn’t really noticeable while on the gun itself. But measured on the scale the factory lower with bT Grip measures 12.4 oz while the machined aluminum lower with Magpul Grip 18.0 oz. I will say the machined lower in combination with the upper gives the gun a more premium feel if that makes any sense at all. Oof. I'm not sure how you get anymore premium on a B&T firearm. I would be hesitant to add another six ounces to the gun though. These PCC's are already kind of heavy for their size. Granted, they're light weight compared to the MP5 but they're not exactly featherweights. Still, the lower looks really good. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:04:31 PM EDT
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does the machined lower come in glock mags?
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Posted: 9/25/2022 4:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktalk: does the machined lower come in glock mags? Not that I have seen on bt parts. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:12:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joesrcool: Added the "Medium" length M-Lok handguard to my SD. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179240/20220929_150647_jpg-2544180.JPG Looks great; any M-Lok accessories planned? I wish they made a version of these available for the Gen1 APC9SD. |
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Posted: 9/29/2022 6:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyArtillery: Looks great; any M-Lok accessories planned? I wish they made a version of these available for the Gen1 APC9SD. I had a vertical grip in mind, but I may run this one slick. It's quite a bit more comfortable than the original handguard. I installed the little handstop only to check suppressor clearance at the dealer since the can is still in jail. Plenty of room for the M-Lok hardware, and I may leave the little handstop there. Only other thing I need to add is a light. I stepped out of the NV game for the time being, so no need for an IR laser currently. That was my biggest complaint with the originally handguard, is that the plastic pic rails would flex when the can got hot and the IR laser would drift. Here was the original setup...  Attached File |
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USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 7:22:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joesrcool: Added the "Medium" length M-Lok handguard to my SD. Love it! |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 9/29/2022 9:33:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kp01]
[#29]
Any good deals on the apc9 pro?
I think I need one. Don't have a PCC, been drooling over everyone's setup for months now. Already got a Wolfman waiting. . . . *EDIT. Found an acp9 pro with sb brace for $2150 at armsunlimited.com. Ordered one! :) |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:00:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Had an opportunity to shoot a SPC9 today and lets just say I'm glad I didn't buy one. I wanted one to accompany my APC9K, but I'll have to pass. The recoil felt the same as the APC (MAYBE 5% lighter). The front charging handle is so stiff you're pretty much forced to run the rear AR handle, but that wasn't the biggest issue. I put my R9 on it and I've never been gassed out like that. After 10 rounds my right eye was on fire, to the point where I thought I was going to go blind. I have never been gassed out like that by any suppressed gun. It comes with a BCM charging handle, but looks like a gas busting handle (PRI, Radian, whatever) is an absolute must if you shoot suppressed. The R9 is a bit gassy so I'll give it one more try with my Obsidian, but I was not impressed at all.
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:18:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Had an opportunity to shoot a SPC9 today and lets just say I'm glad I didn't buy one. I wanted one to accompany my APC9K, but I'll have to pass. The recoil felt the same as the APC (MAYBE 5% lighter). The front charging handle is so stiff you're pretty much forced to run the rear AR handle, but that wasn't the biggest issue. I put my R9 on it and I've never been gassed out like that. After 10 rounds my right eye was on fire, to the point where I thought I was going to go blind. I have never been gassed out like that by any suppressed gun. It comes with a BCM charging handle, but looks like a gas busting handle (PRI, Radian, whatever) is an absolute must if you shoot suppressed. The R9 is a bit gassy so I'll give it one more try with my Obsidian, but I was not impressed at all. Yep. That's why I don't like subguns with AR-style charging handles. I'd much rather they shit out the side. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/11/2022 11:37:29 AM EDT
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Had to grind down the tops of the charging handles in order for the CTF2 to fit, but I think it's a good fit for this gun.
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Posted: 10/11/2022 4:14:33 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: Had to grind down the tops of the charging handles in order for the CTF2 to fit, but I think it's a good fit for this gun. https://i.imgur.com/DP9OL39.jpg More pictures please. How's the button activation with the relatively tall top rail height on the APC? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2022 10:05:14 AM EDT
[#34]
Anyone use the Kriss/Glock 40 round magazines in their Glock lowers? Wondering if they would fit.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2022 11:43:20 AM EDT
[#35]
Question for all who's running the Telescopic Stock. Since no LGS near me has one to see/handle, is there any looseness or wobble when it's retracted in either of the 3 positions or even when it's not retracted?
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USA
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Posted: 10/15/2022 12:59:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emwen: Question for all who's running the Telescopic Stock. Since no LGS near me has one to see/handle, is there any looseness or wobble when it's retracted in either of the 3 positions or even when it's not retracted? Yeah there is some looseness but nooo where near what a MP5 Type F does… |
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USA
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Posted: 10/15/2022 1:00:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Had an opportunity to shoot a SPC9 today and lets just say I'm glad I didn't buy one. I wanted one to accompany my APC9K, but I'll have to pass. The recoil felt the same as the APC (MAYBE 5% lighter). The front charging handle is so stiff you're pretty much forced to run the rear AR handle, but that wasn't the biggest issue. I put my R9 on it and I've never been gassed out like that. After 10 rounds my right eye was on fire, to the point where I thought I was going to go blind. I have never been gassed out like that by any suppressed gun. It comes with a BCM charging handle, but looks like a gas busting handle (PRI, Radian, whatever) is an absolute must if you shoot suppressed. The R9 is a bit gassy so I'll give it one more try with my Obsidian, but I was not impressed at all. To me the SPC9 does nothing special for me and this just confirms it. Lol. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2022 11:28:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: To me the SPC9 does nothing special for me and this just confirms it. Lol. Yep. Had another chance to shoot my friend's SPC9 and I don't see any reason to get it over the APC9. Don't listen to the hype, the recoil is exactly the same, except the SPC is gassy as hell while the APC isn't. You can probably fix most of the gas issue with a different charging handle, but I don't see why anyone would go with the SPC over the APC. It's not a bad gun, but it serves no purpose. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 12:44:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Yep. Had another chance to shoot my friend's SPC9 and I don't see any reason to get it over the APC9. Don't listen to the hype, the recoil is exactly the same, except the SPC is gassy as hell while the APC isn't. You can probably fix most of the gas issue with a different charging handle, but I don't see why anyone would go with the SPC over the APC. It's not a bad gun, but it serves no purpose. I understand the SPC"s existence. Having said that. I don't understand why anyone would want one. Its an overall larger package than the APC and at the end of the day, it doesn't do anything better. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 9:51:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Yep. Had another chance to shoot my friend's SPC9 and I don't see any reason to get it over the APC9. Don't listen to the hype, the recoil is exactly the same, except the SPC is gassy as hell while the APC isn't. You can probably fix most of the gas issue with a different charging handle, but I don't see why anyone would go with the SPC over the APC. It's not a bad gun, but it serves no purpose. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wetfuego: Originally Posted By thehun06: To me the SPC9 does nothing special for me and this just confirms it. Lol. Yep. Had another chance to shoot my friend's SPC9 and I don't see any reason to get it over the APC9. Don't listen to the hype, the recoil is exactly the same, except the SPC is gassy as hell while the APC isn't. You can probably fix most of the gas issue with a different charging handle, but I don't see why anyone would go with the SPC over the APC. It's not a bad gun, but it serves no purpose. It's sole purpose is to please the AR crowd...that is all... |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 12:37:14 PM EDT
[#41]
Right, wasn’t it designed as a AR platform trainer for a European agency?
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Posted: 10/16/2022 12:50:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve0: Right, wasn’t it designed as a AR platform trainer for a European agency? That's what I understand, and if that works for them, great, but I have zero interest in a suppressed sub gun with a rear-facing charging handle. I've been absolutely punished by Sig MPX and MCX guns. Not a fan. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 12:54:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scuba_steve: That's what I understand, and if that works for them, great, but I have zero interest in a suppressed sub gun with a rear-facing charging handle. I've been absolutely punished by Sig MPX and MCX guns. Not a fan. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scuba_steve: Originally Posted By steve0: Right, wasn’t it designed as a AR platform trainer for a European agency? That's what I understand, and if that works for them, great, but I have zero interest in a suppressed sub gun with a rear-facing charging handle. I've been absolutely punished by Sig MPX and MCX guns. Not a fan. MPX and MCX dumps gas worse than a DI gun… |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 1:54:45 PM EDT
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I was interested in the SPC engineering and build quality. I wonder if it was designed and tested with their RBS suppressors.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 8:44:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: MPX and MCX dumps gas worse than a DI gun… I have reduced size gas ports/plugs on my MPX. Zero issues with blowback. I think we can all agree though that a giant hole in the back of the upper receiver is never a good thing when you throw a can on there. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2022 8:44:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kp01]
[#46]
Thread needs more images...
Not it's final form. Optic is temp, an old aimpoint H1 on a larue mount.  |
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Posted: 11/19/2022 1:10:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 12:32:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 12:43:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 3:45:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: scuba_steve]
[#50]
B&T offering limited-release SBR config APC9s, in standard and K lengths, with the new MBT Folding/telescoping stock, MLOK handguard, and an all-new aluminum lower, with ambi controls, flared mag well, and and flat-faced Elftmann Tactical trigger system:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/11/18/bt-usa-apc9-aluminum-lowers/ https://bt-usa.com/product-category/apc9-limited/ |
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