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MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 58 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 12/19/2019 7:31:31 PM EDT [#1] Has anyone here completed a form 1 on an APC9K? Wondering if there is enough room for a VFG? If so, any photos of what it looks like? Thanks! Taylor

HeavyArtillery

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Posted: 12/19/2019 8:39:57 PM EDT

[Last Edit: HeavyArtillery] [#2]

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Originally Posted By MobileTaylor:
Has anyone here completed a form 1 on an APC9K? Wondering if there is enough room for a VFG? If so, any photos of what it looks like?

Thanks!

Taylor

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Yes and there is enough room for a VFG. There was a picture of an APC9K with a VFG on this forum (still looking for it...). If You Google 'APC9K VFG' a few pictures come up like this ONE.

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1482 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/19/2019 11:21:47 PM EDT [Last Edit: Lucreau] [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By MobileTaylor: Has anyone here completed a form 1 on an APC9K? Wondering if there is enough room for a VFG? If so, any photos of what it looks like? Thanks! Taylor View Quote Yup and yup. Here’s mine with a cut down KAC grip from @white-rhyno cute rhyming names

white-rhyno Member Joined Aug 2013 Posts 367 EE 100% (82) WA, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 1:08:16 AM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By Lucreau: Yup and yup. Here’s mine with a cut down KAC grip from @white-rhyno https://i.ibb.co/mHCSfH8/2-DAC90-B5-2-ED2-4-B6-A-9-CF6-11-F6-C7-D8-D27-A.jpg cute rhyming names View Quote Desire to want intensifies... very nice!

AlphaThree Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 4155 EE 100% (610) USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 1:57:39 AM EDT [#5] Quote History Originally Posted By Lucreau: Yup and yup. Here’s mine with a cut down KAC grip from @white-rhyno https://i.ibb.co/mHCSfH8/2-DAC90-B5-2-ED2-4-B6-A-9-CF6-11-F6-C7-D8-D27-A.jpg cute rhyming names View Quote Where do you get the ACRO with B&T Mount?

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1483 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 7:42:08 AM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By AlphaThree: Where do you get the ACRO with B&T Mount? View Quote Acro I found on the EE. The Aimpoint Mount with the logo as far as I know is the last one imported. My buddy who’s a dealer has more on order from Switzerland and may be getting more in 4-6 weeks

BoogieMan2 Joined Aug 2010 Posts 702 EE 100% (20) NV, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 11:32:21 AM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By Lucreau: Yup and yup. Here’s mine with a cut down KAC grip from @white-rhyno https://i.ibb.co/mHCSfH8/2-DAC90-B5-2-ED2-4-B6-A-9-CF6-11-F6-C7-D8-D27-A.jpg cute rhyming names View Quote Boy I wonder where you got that stock and the foregrip idea lol. Out here claiming it as your own 🤣

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1484 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 11:35:21 AM EDT [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By BoogieMan2: Boy I wonder where you got that stock and the foregrip idea lol. Out here claiming it as your own 🤣 View Quote Bruhhh shhhhhh 😂😂

MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 59 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 4:09:00 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By HeavyArtillery: Yes and there is enough room for a VFG. There was a picture of an APC9K with a VFG on this forum (still looking for it...). If You Google 'APC9K VFG' a few pictures come up like this ONE. View Quote That is nice! Although it looks like there isn't enough room to get a full grip on that VFG?

MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 60 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 4:09:39 PM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By Lucreau: Yup and yup. Here’s mine with a cut down KAC grip from @white-rhyno https://i.ibb.co/mHCSfH8/2-DAC90-B5-2-ED2-4-B6-A-9-CF6-11-F6-C7-D8-D27-A.jpg cute rhyming names View Quote That looks great also. But I assume you can't get a full grip on that?

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1488 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/20/2019 9:13:10 PM EDT [#11] Quote History Originally Posted By MobileTaylor: That looks great also. But I assume you can't get a full grip on that? View Quote Define a full grip. I get all 4 fingers on it very comfortably, and my thumb goes on the pic section

MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 61 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 12/21/2019 12:09:52 AM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By Lucreau: Define a full grip. I get all 4 fingers on it very comfortably, and my thumb goes on the pic section View Quote OK. To be honest, I’ve never used a VFG. Is that the proper technique?

AlphaThree Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 4156 EE 100% (610) USA	Posted: 12/21/2019 1:21:52 AM EDT [#13] Quote History Originally Posted By MobileTaylor: OK. To be honest, I’ve never used a VFG. Is that the proper technique? View Quote Yes. Correct Incorrect

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1493 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/22/2019 6:07:27 PM EDT [Last Edit: Lucreau] [#14] Edited

Postal0311 Brownells Boogaloo Squad Joined Sep 2004 Posts 9149 EE 100% (288) FL, USA	Posted: 12/22/2019 7:18:20 PM EDT [#15] Any word on the next batch of glock lowers and collapsing stocks?

DetroitSounds Joined Nov 2018 Posts 1201 EE 100% (228) MI, USA	Posted: 12/23/2019 12:31:13 AM EDT [#16] Quote History Originally Posted By AlphaThree: Yes. Correct https://compote.slate.com/images/a99270ba-0a78-44d2-b9cd-8d7472822a5e.jpg Incorrect https://z2e8r6n9.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Best-AR-15-Foregrip.jpg View Quote AKA- The right way vs what you see in the movies

tranzformer

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Posted: 12/23/2019 2:01:41 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By AlphaThree:

Yes.

Correct

https://compote.slate.com/images/a99270ba-0a78-44d2-b9cd-8d7472822a5e.jpg

Incorrect
https://z2e8r6n9.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Best-AR-15-Foregrip.jpg

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I would agree for a full length AR rail that is the proper way for a VFG. However, for a short hand guard on a SMG/PDW it is different. Don't have that luxury.

HeavyArtillery

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Posted: 12/24/2019 9:57:13 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By MobileTaylor:

That looks great also. But I assume you can't get a full grip on that?

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You can use the VFG either way based on your preference. There are a couple more forward rail notches on the pictured APC9Ks to mount the VFG further forward if you want more space for your support hand to wrap around the grip.

BoogieMan2

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Posted: 12/24/2019 1:12:16 PM EDT

[#19]

There’s no correct or incorrect way to use a foregrip unless you’re T cupping that thing. It’s weapon system and operator dependent. All this super new age LARPERs out here telling people what’s wrong and not. Short SMGs require a different Manuel of arms. Plus reason that people use a different grip on ARs is #1 real estate and #2 different recoil mitigation

MobileTaylor

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Posted: 12/25/2019 9:01:02 PM EDT

[Last Edit: MobileTaylor] [#20]

Thanks for all the info everyone! I found a forward cant VFG that is made by Custom Smith Manufacturing. The grip angles slightly forward and gives a little more room. Also, It looks like the Glock lower magwell slants backwards (the stock B&T angles straight down). Between the two, there should be enough room for either method mentioned above.

BoogieMan2

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Posted: 12/27/2019 1:53:08 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By MobileTaylor:
Thanks for all the info everyone! I found a forward cant VFG that is made by Custom Smith Manufacturing. The grip angles slightly forward and gives a little more room. Also, It looks like the Glock lower magwell slants backwards (the stock B&T angles straight down). Between the two, there should be enough room for either method mentioned above.

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Personally I run a B&T grip 1 space forward from all the way back and it’s fine and gives you room to wrap fingers. That’s on the short grip. Gonna grab a full grip and that should honestly be the ticket. I’m more into putting B&t on B&t stuff cause you know.... it’s 🔥

BoogieMan2 Joined Aug 2010 Posts 705 EE 100% (20) NV, USA	Posted: 12/27/2019 1:57:37 AM EDT [#22] While we’re at it, has anyone ran this stock? Is it any longer that the normal folder? Trying to upgrade wisely

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1497 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 12/27/2019 8:18:41 PM EDT [#23] Anyone have any or a few of the B&T round stickers they wanna sell?

F16stinger Member Joined Dec 2013 Posts 954 EE 100% (86) OH, USA	Posted: 12/28/2019 5:30:52 PM EDT [#24] Are they going to make the Glock lowers for the APC9 in FDE??
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DetroitSounds Joined Nov 2018 Posts 1272 EE 100% (228) MI, USA	Posted: 12/30/2019 6:41:38 PM EDT [#25] I rarely see any pics or talk about B&T guns outside of APC9 and GHM9, so I started a B&T picture thread. Plus, so many pages on this and the GHM9 thread it's hard to find pics in between all the chatter. Brugger Thomet picture thread

rm2092 Joined Oct 2013 Posts 113 EE 0% (0) LA, USA	Posted: 1/1/2020 8:16:32 AM EDT [#26] For 2020 can we get some aftermarket mags from Lancer or someone else, just saying and no I'm not buying a Glock lower.

28rndslater

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Posted: 1/3/2020 2:24:21 PM EDT

[#27]

A short follow up on my lil magazine SNAFU.

The 5 replacement mags arrived via 2 Air. Upon inspection they are noticeably darker than the first batch of mags (of which 5 out of 10 experienced malfunctions). After 25-30 rounds from all of the new mags (3 rounds per mag in an attempt to induce the malfunction) there were zero failures.

I was strongly considering a glock lower up to this point, but now I’m not sure I’ll do it. I guess I’ll wait to see the longevity of the mags before I make that call.

HeavyArtillery

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Posted: 1/3/2020 8:51:20 PM EDT

[#28]

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Originally Posted By 28rndslater:
A short follow up on my lil magazine SNAFU.

The 5 replacement mags arrived via 2 Air. Upon inspection they are noticeably darker than the first batch of mags (of which 5 out of 10 experienced malfunctions). After 25-30 rounds from all of the new mags (3 rounds per mag in an attempt to induce the malfunction) there were zero failures.

I was strongly considering a glock lower up to this point, but now I’m not sure I’ll do it. I guess I’ll wait to see the longevity of the mags before I make that call.

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Can you post a picture showing the color difference? It may help identify mag issues related to a potential batch change. Thanks.

28rndslater Joined Apr 2014 Posts 21 EE 100% (1) CO, USA	Posted: 1/5/2020 4:29:05 PM EDT [#29] I can’t get my pics to upload on this platform. Shoot me your Email & I’ll get you pics!

545superiority Joined Feb 2015 Posts 59 EE 100% (22) NC, USA	Posted: 1/14/2020 8:50:09 PM EDT [#30] Could I put an APC9 PRO lower on an APC9SD?

bestiller Member Joined Oct 2004 Posts 3354 EE 100% (85) LA, USA	Posted: 1/14/2020 9:07:22 PM EDT [#31] Quote History Originally Posted By 545superiority: Could I put an APC9 PRO lower on an APC9SD? View Quote I have Gen 1 GHM9c, APC9 and APC9SD and the lowers are identical. I have no direct experience with the PRO but I would think that you could.
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Vandarel Joined Aug 2010 Posts 1 EE 100% (3) TX, USA	Posted: 1/15/2020 3:26:31 AM EDT [#32] Late to the party but I'll be picking up my APC9 Pro tomorrow. Ready to drop a few things on it and get it form 1 as well. Trying to go back through all 47 pages of this thread though !

HeavyArtillery

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Posted: 1/15/2020 2:43:21 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By 545superiority:
Could I put an APC9 PRO lower on an APC9SD?

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Yes, I validated that you can put a Pro lower on the APC9SD (Gen 1/non-Pro). This was with the Pro lower for standard B&T mags; you'd need to make sure the bolt/receiver are properly modified if you wanted to use a Glock lower.

stimr2 Member Joined Apr 2012 Posts 375 EE 100% (1) SC, USA	Posted: 2/1/2020 7:04:10 PM EDT [#34] Failed To Load Title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUA2MpEdsfI Now shipping with Glock lowers.

AlphaThree Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 4191 EE 100% (610) USA	Posted: 2/1/2020 9:12:47 PM EDT [#35] Quote History Originally Posted By stimr2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUA2MpEdsfI Now shipping with Glock lowers. View Quote Oh yeah. Bought a APC9K-G last week. It’s waiting at my FFL but I won’t be able to pick it up for a few more weeks. Can’t wait!

MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 78 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 2/9/2020 2:51:51 PM EDT [#36] Quote History Originally Posted By stimr2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUA2MpEdsfI Now shipping with Glock lowers. View Quote Great news!

MobileTaylor Joined Mar 2019 Posts 79 EE 0% (0) OR, USA	Posted: 2/13/2020 10:59:27 PM EDT [Last Edit: MobileTaylor] [#37] Never mind. Found it on page 2.

Aw4g63 Joined Jan 2009 Posts 2805 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/14/2020 11:25:17 AM EDT [#38] Finally joined the B&T Master Race.

deanwormer Joined Jul 2013 Posts 3797 EE 100% (37) FL, USA	Posted: 2/19/2020 11:28:12 PM EDT [#39] Where are some speed magazine loaders for these things?

stimr2 Member Joined Apr 2012 Posts 379 EE 100% (1) SC, USA	Posted: 2/19/2020 11:39:07 PM EDT [#40] The ETS C.A.M rifle magazine loader works well on B&T and Scoprion mags.

branflake12 Member Joined Aug 2010 Posts 1561 EE 100% (71) IN, USA	Posted: 2/20/2020 10:10:23 AM EDT [#41] Quote History Originally Posted By stimr2: The ETS C.A.M rifle magazine loader works well on B&T and Scoprion mags. View Quote This.

Tap4AU Joined Aug 2009 Posts 209 EE 100% (5) AL, USA	Posted: 3/4/2020 3:28:16 PM EDT [#42] HAS ANYONE SHOT THE APC9K PRO AND PRO AT 50 YARDS? WHAT ACCURACY DID YOU FIND?

fourxfour Joined Jul 2009 Posts 278 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 3/4/2020 7:33:05 PM EDT [#43] Just out of curiosity, are there any published tests of the APC9 or even some amateur torture testings?

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1619 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 3/4/2020 7:44:50 PM EDT [#44] Quote History Originally Posted By Tap4AU: HAS ANYONE SHOT THE APC9K PRO AND PRO AT 50 YARDS? WHAT ACCURACY DID YOU FIND? View Quote Was pinging C zone steel silhouettes the other day at 100y every round. Not for grouping

AlphaThree Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 4231 EE 100% (610) USA	Posted: 3/4/2020 7:46:00 PM EDT [#45] Quote History Originally Posted By fourxfour: Just out of curiosity, are there any published tests of the APC9 or even some amateur torture testings? View Quote http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/ I'm sure those guys did some testing and it apparently passed

Lucreau Joined May 2017 Posts 1621 EE 100% (156) TX, USA	Posted: 3/4/2020 9:44:01 PM EDT [#46] Just posted a BT vertical foregrip for sale in the used upper section is anyone’s interested. Non QD, stubby

MobileTaylor

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Posted: 3/6/2020 11:22:05 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By AlphaThree:
http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/

I'm sure those guys did some testing and it apparently passed

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Originally Posted By AlphaThree:

Originally Posted By fourxfour:
Just out of curiosity, are there any published tests of the APC9 or even some amateur torture testings?

http://soldiersystems.net/2019/04/01/us-army-selects-bt-for-sub-compact-weapon/

I'm sure those guys did some testing and it apparently passed

Mic drop...

Postal0311 Brownells Boogaloo Squad Joined Sep 2004 Posts 9188 EE 100% (288) FL, USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 11:44:41 AM EDT [Last Edit: Postal0311] [#48] Looks like my telescoping brace was accidently assembled using an APC556/300 right side bar. That prevents my gun from functioning when the brace is collapsed. Hopefully B&T will take care of me. Update 3/24. All sorted out. Thank you B&T!

AlphaThree Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 4241 EE 100% (610) USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 2:08:47 PM EDT [#49] Quote History Originally Posted By Postal0311: Looks like my telescoping brace was accidently assembled using an APC556/300 right side bar. That prevents my gun from functioning when the brace is collapsed. Hopefully B&T will take care of me. View Quote where did you buy it from?

Postal0311 Brownells Boogaloo Squad Joined Sep 2004 Posts 9189 EE 100% (288) FL, USA	Posted: 3/6/2020 8:18:27 PM EDT [#50] Quote History Originally Posted By AlphaThree: where did you buy it from? View Quote I'm not going to name names as I'm pretty sure that no one is taking apart multiple braces/stocks and putting them back together wrong. Note how there is no relief for the ejection port and the right side bar has the lower u notch present on the 556/300 braces/stocks.

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