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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2023 1:39:43 PM EDT
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Any red dot recommendations for the hellion? Really like the aesthetics of the Aimpoint Pro on it, but worried the Pro isn't bright enough for daytime use outdoors.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaflyer: Any red dot recommendations for the hellion? Really like the aesthetics of the Aimpoint Pro on it, but worried the Pro isn't bright enough for daytime use outdoors. https://imgur.com/a/5MqHmAr |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 2:15:26 PM EDT
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The PRO is what I have on my Hecklion and it's plenty bright outdoors.
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USA
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Posted: 2/28/2023 9:28:44 PM EDT
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I like the PRO without the spacer on the QD base. I felt like it didn't need to be that high on that high rail.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 1:31:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SPARKY4]
[#5]
Bereli has been great to me previously and they don’t charge tax or shipping, but they are OOS, where is the best place to pick one of these up now?
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Posted: 3/3/2023 2:32:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Bereli has been great to me previously and they don’t charge tax or shipping, but they are OOS, where is the best place to pick one of these up now? Check gundeals on reddit. The last I saw was around 1595. I got mine from skid tactical and got 5% off by paying with btc. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 3:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Default-Gateway: Check gundeals on reddit. The last I saw was around 1595. I got mine from skid tactical and got 5% off by paying with btc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Default-Gateway: Originally Posted By SPARKY4: Bereli has been great to me previously and they don’t charge tax or shipping, but they are OOS, where is the best place to pick one of these up now? Check gundeals on reddit. The last I saw was around 1595. I got mine from skid tactical and got 5% off by paying with btc. Thanks. What is BTC? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 3:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Thanks. What is BTC? Probably bitcoin or some other form of cryptocurrency |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 4:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Thanks. What is BTC? The future of money. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 5:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Bereli has been great to me previously and they don’t charge tax or shipping, but they are OOS, where is the best place to pick one of these up now? They charge now for MO :( |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 12:14:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Bereli has been great to me previously and they don’t charge tax or shipping, but they are OOS, where is the best place to pick one of these up now? I just ordered one from Arms Unlimited- it was the best price I found and no tax. https://armsunlimited.com/springfield-hellion-556-bullpup-rifle/ |
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USA
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Posted: 3/4/2023 9:49:52 AM EDT
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Great prices!
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Posted: 3/5/2023 1:20:33 PM EDT
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I just saw the email blast from Brownells - they have the Hellion on sale for $1619. Not sure about tax, etc.
https://www.brownells.com/guns/rifles/semi-auto-rifles/hellion-bullpup-5.56-16 |
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USA
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Posted: 3/7/2023 10:22:31 AM EDT
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Berelli now charges tax, but still free shipping. I was told this policy has changed beginning of 2023.
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Posted: 3/8/2023 1:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BNZ: Berelli now charges tax, but still free shipping. I was told this policy has changed beginning of 2023. Damn do they really? I was just looking at getting a Hellion from them as they were $1,510 with the discount code. Basically the discount now just negates the tax. |
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Posted: 3/8/2023 3:18:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Damn do they really? I was just looking at getting a Hellion from them as they were $1,510 with the discount code. Basically the discount now just negates the tax. I almost bought that also. But it is the “first line” model. Your dealer where you do a transfer may make/need to have you prove you are eligible. |
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Posted: 3/8/2023 8:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: I almost bought that also. But it is the “first line” model. Your dealer where you do a transfer may make/need to have you prove you are eligible. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize it was a different model. What is "first line"? Is that their name for a LE/QP model? |
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Posted: 3/8/2023 10:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize it was a different model. What is "first line"? Is that their name for a LE/QP model? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Originally Posted By SPARKY4: I almost bought that also. But it is the “first line” model. Your dealer where you do a transfer may make/need to have you prove you are eligible. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize it was a different model. What is "first line"? Is that their name for a LE/QP model? Same model, just a program that Springfield offers for first responders, mil, police…..Similar to the Glock blue label. I do not qualify and had a few shops tell me they did not care and would give it to me anyway if I ordered online and transferred through them, but not sure how that works with paper work. Not willing to risk the return fees, plus the whole stolen valor thing. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/9/2023 11:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPARKY4: Same model, just a program that Springfield offers for first responders, mil, police…..Similar to the Glock blue label. I do not qualify and had a few shops tell me they did not care and would give it to me anyway if I ordered online and transferred through them, but not sure how that works with paper work. Not willing to risk the return fees, plus the whole stolen valor thing. From what I have seen the originating FFL, that is the MIL/LE program dealer, requires documentation for an individual to qualify for the MIL/LE program before it ships to the FFL that would complete the transfer. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2023 2:46:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: We are close with our first of several parts. Sven Manticore Arms Eagerly awaiting! Any hints? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/16/2023 8:16:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thor: Sadly, I am really hating the lack of a manual BHO. I’ve forced double feeds and FTEs and it’s a pain to clear. Luckily I haven’t had any real malfunctions so hopefully it’s a moot point. Hit mine with a little Cerakote yesterday. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66797/17612034-9401-45F5-8C0E-9C8057E055FC-2719587.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66797/F9E281B7-7B9D-4B8B-9F02-DC8CE9275C37-2719589.jpg How far did you disassemble this? I'm considering koting mine but not sure if I need to detail strip or not. |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 9:18:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Thor]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Karter14171: How far did you disassemble this? I'm considering koting mine but not sure if I need to detail strip or not. @Karter14171 I didn’t strip the top. I need to contact Springfield or find someone who’s removed the rail screws before. They are locked in tight and I felt I was risking damaging the screw head or slipping offand marring the screw head. I had to smoke the camo in on the bottom of the upper. Everything was pretty straightforward. If you feel you have to force something, you missed something. The safety is tricky. The pin is small and hard to spot without direct lighting. A long punch helps to ease removal, and it’s a bit of fun getting the pin back in if you don’t have a magnetic punch. Edit: Oh. And I couldn’t find out how in the hell you’d remove the ejection port covers without drilling a hole to knock them out. There’s actually a few pins in the gun that have no access from the opposite side. 
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USA
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Posted: 3/18/2023 10:33:17 AM EDT
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Wish mine looked as cool as yours does. Well done.
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Posted: 3/18/2023 1:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: Eagerly awaiting! Any hints? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: We are close with our first of several parts. Sven Manticore Arms Eagerly awaiting! Any hints? @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:00:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. Totally understandable, I'll be standing by! |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:09:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kwisak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. Very exciting and totally agree on not showing your hand. Tends to only cause headaches in the end. Although a new safety would be much appreciated. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2023 1:25:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. Finally some accessories! |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/31/2023 6:04:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. Not even a tease? Cmon man that's like social media marketing 101, build the hype especially when no one knows about any aftermarket for the vhs2 |
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Posted: 3/31/2023 6:19:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Semper-0fp: Not even a tease? Cmon man that's like social media marketing 101, build the hype especially when no one knows about any aftermarket for the vhs2 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Semper-0fp: Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: @Scrapple I learned some years ago never to show your hand until the product is ready to ship. That being said I expect our first two products for the Hellion to launch in 60-90 days, parts are already in process. Not even a tease? Cmon man that's like social media marketing 101, build the hype especially when no one knows about any aftermarket for the vhs2 I did tease...I let people know we have our first two products coming. ...and it worked, as I have you among several other people drooling over what those parts could be.  Sven Manticore Arms P.S. I learned the hard way once that if you show your hand before product is ready, you gain nothing, and only give any unscrupulous copycats the chance to try to beat you to market with your own product that you spent many hours of R&D and money on. I have not made that mistake again. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/31/2023 6:22:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: I did tease...I let people know we have our first two products coming. ...and it worked, as I have you among several other people drooling over what those parts could be. Sven Manticore Arms P.S. I learned the hard way once that if you show your hand before product is ready, you gain nothing, and only give any unscrupulous copycats the chance to try to beat you to market with your own product that you spent many hours of R&D and money on. I have not made that mistake again. Don’t blame you. First to market usually always wins… |
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USA
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Posted: 3/31/2023 9:16:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaflyer: Any red dot recommendations for the hellion? Really like the aesthetics of the Aimpoint Pro on it, but worried the Pro isn't bright enough for daytime use outdoors. https://imgur.com/a/5MqHmAr I’ve settled on a PA 1X micro prism. For the rest of the class. Just thinking out loud and watching some YouTube. The cassette style trigger in the VHS2 looks very high quality compared to factory Tavor. It looks more like aftermarket cassettes for the Tavor. I’m just spitballing but I don’t think there is much low hanging fruit for trigger upgrades until you get into the trigger itself, new angle on the trigger bar. There’s also the firing pin safety to contend with. |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 2:48:43 PM EDT
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I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one.
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Posted: 4/6/2023 2:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Watch_this71: I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one. I mean, there's a whole country's army using it, so several thousand. |
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Posted: 4/6/2023 4:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Watch_this71: I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one. If I had to leave today with one long gun, it would be the Hellion, for certain. But I'm just a beer-swilling middle-aged guy in flyover country with a boring 9-5, so take that for what it's worth. 
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Posted: 4/6/2023 5:17:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Watch_this71]
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I've seen the vids on youtube and I gotta say that I'm starting to like it over my Tavor SAR.
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Posted: 4/6/2023 9:59:35 PM EDT
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 Springfield Armory Hellion | 1 Year Review |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 1:25:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Watch_this71: I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one. I really, really like my VHS. I've seriously have thought about switching from my AUG to the VHS as my primary long gun. But it's not the lack of aftermarket. It's the lack of available factory spare parts. Granted, I'd either probably wear out few parts or maybe even none. But I'd hate to go all in without parts availability. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 9:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt is the best 5.56 bullpup I've ever owned or tested...period... |
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Posted: 4/7/2023 9:43:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: It is the best 5.56 bullpup I've ever owned or tested...period... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: It is the best 5.56 bullpup I've ever owned or tested...period... Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised how much I like mine. First Bullpup I've owned. I've found it to be awesome with a can as it balances it well. As opposed to an AR that you cam really feel can out at the muzzle. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 9:49:43 AM EDT
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Im still holding out on a hellion, left hand config works great for me. But, I wonder if different calibers will become available? Id want one in 6.8spc!!
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Posted: 4/7/2023 10:38:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By country_boy87: Im still holding out on a hellion, left hand config works great for me. But, I wonder if different calibers will become available? Id want one in 6.8spc!! 7.62x39 would be a winner. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 1:47:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I mean, there's a whole country's army using it, so several thousand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Watch_this71: I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one. I mean, there's a whole country's army using it, so several thousand. Croatia and all of Iraq is using it...Iraq has like 100K in service... Romania will be using it soon once they can produce in-country... The Hellion/VHS-2 is a well proven go-to design...on par with all the latest AR designs like HK416, SCAR etc... |
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USA
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Posted: 4/7/2023 1:48:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By country_boy87: Im still holding out on a hellion, left hand config works great for me. But, I wonder if different calibers will become available? Id want one in 6.8spc!! Don't hold out too long ... |
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Posted: 4/7/2023 1:54:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Croatia and all of Iraq is using it...Iraq has like 100K in service... Romania will be using it soon once they can produce in-country... The Hellion/VHS-2 is a well proven go-to design...on par with all the latest AR designs like HK416, SCAR etc... Oh that's fascinating. |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 4:58:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLol at the 6” height over bore lol |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 6:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Lol at the 6" height over bore lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Lol at the 6" height over bore lol  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/9/2023 7:30:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DevilDog0402: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/87D543F5-C33B-475C-95CD-45D86133DAC9-476.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DevilDog0402: Originally Posted By AEROMechanic: Lol at the 6" height over bore lol Exactly, the same people say that then put the skyscraper Unity mounts on their AR's. Just know your CQB holdovers and it's a nonissue. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/10/2023 2:21:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: Lol at the 6” height over bore lol Is that your disqual for the rifle…lol |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:10:40 PM EDT
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Disappointed in mine. Took it to the range and was consistently 4” low at 25 yards (max at indoor range) after I buried the front sight post as low as it would go. I started about 6” or 7” low before the adjustments.
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Watch_this71: I'm curious how many people are using that as a "go-to" weapon. I laid my hands on one today and I could be convinced to buy one.  Attached File |
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