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Posted: 11/24/2019 9:31:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Rigging up a case feeder would be childs play for anyone with a modicum of mechanical ability. They only reason I have a 1050 on my wish list is for the swaging feature. If this will do it at 1/10 the price with a jury rigged case feeder I will probably never pony up for a 1050. |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:39:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Patent drawings linked above indicate a four tube case feeder as part of the machine.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:37:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Patent drawings linked above indicate a four tube case feeder as part of the machine. Though the lee 4 tube case feeder w/ funnel is a surprisingly eloquent and cheap solution for a case feeder. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 11:13:25 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
Though the lee 4 tube case feeder w/ funnel is a surprisingly eloquent and cheap solution for a case feeder. |
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Posted: 11/26/2019 5:09:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Well, I am excited to hear from men who have actually tried out this new machine - especially the swage feature !
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Posted: 11/26/2019 6:28:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21:
Well, I am excited to hear from men who have actually tried out this new machine - especially the swage feature ! |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2019 6:38:29 PM EDT
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Anyone gotten word on exactly what comes with the Deluxe kit? I assume you still need to order the swager kits and any bullet sizing kits you need. What about shell holders?
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Posted: 12/1/2019 10:34:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Is it decapping and swaging pockets on one pass through?
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Posted: 12/1/2019 10:46:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j97531:
Is it decapping and swaging pockets on one pass through? |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 11:03:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: I haven't seen the press other than in pictures but I can't see how it would be. Wouldn't the spent primer and decapping pin be in the way? Also I doubt the decapping pin will work as a holddown rod during the swage process. |
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Posted: 12/1/2019 11:31:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j97531:
Thanks for responding, your study matches mine. I am in need of a standalone machine to decap and swage - preferably in one step. I think there's a market for an inexpensive brass processing machine. Something that's got maybe three stations. One to decap/size, one to swage that has a hold-down to keep from bending/popping case rims and one for trimming. Make it with a vacuum manifold like the GSI tool head and I think we'd be all set. |
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Posted: 12/3/2019 12:57:48 AM EDT
[#12]
I have the automated package on preorder with Titan. Looking forward to seeing how it handles bulk depriming for wet tumbling and maybe even sizing 223.
Hoping it's a Christmas present and comes that week or earlier as I'm off work that entire week. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:31:21 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Is there anything on the market that'll deprime and swage on the same press? Other than the 1050 or the Mark 7? I think there's a market for an inexpensive brass processing machine. Something that's got maybe three stations. One to decap/size, one to swage that has a hold-down to keep from bending/popping case rims and one for trimming. Make it with a vacuum manifold like the GSI tool head and I think we'd be all set. |
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Posted: 12/7/2019 8:33:51 AM EDT
[#14]
Anyone pre-order yet? Titan and others are taking orders now.
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Posted: 12/7/2019 9:26:08 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Anyone pre-order yet? Titan and others are taking orders now. |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 7:03:43 AM EDT
[#16]
Update from Lee towards bottom of page. Looks promising.
Lee APP Press But they dropped some bad news at the end "I have a little bad news to report, and that is, we are likely going to miss the end of year ship date that I originally predicted. Two components on the automation package required tool modifications and a material change that has pushed us into the holiday season and progress grinds to a halt during these festive days." Guess I'll have to wait 
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Posted: 12/14/2019 8:34:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jbizzle:
Update from Lee towards bottom of page. Looks promising. |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 1:13:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Trollslayer]
[#18]
I keep trying to warm up to this thing.
I wouldn't want this as a "starter press'. I decap and size on my Dillon 550. I don't size lead bullets. I don't have to bulge-bust my pistol brass. It is probably the most expensive ($200) way to remove primer pocket crimps, if that's all you use it for. ($200 = $90 for 3 dies + $110 for the press.) |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 3:43:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trollslayer: It is probably the most expensive ($200) way to remove primer pocket crimps, if that's all you use it for. ($200 = $90 for 3 dies + $110 for the press.) |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2019 4:04:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Some YouTube guys are using the Lee on Dillon presees. |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 4:19:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Can't wrap my head around this... got any links you can provide?  Lee Case Feeder on a Dillon XL650 Press |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2019 4:45:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blowout]
[#22]
Quote HistoryGot up late and not enough coffee in me yet. Thought you were referring to the APP with a Dillon case feeder.  Thanks for sending. I haven't seen this video before. |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 6:19:40 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blowout: Got up late and not enough coffee in me yet. Thought you were referring to the APP with a Dillon case feeder. |
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Posted: 12/14/2019 7:45:11 PM EDT
[#24]
I was thinking of trying it by connecting a flexible tube similar to the Mr Bullet Feeder one on the Dillon case feed and connecting it to to the APP.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2019 10:32:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Yeah I've already got my bullet feeder set for nose down and I will have a case feeder just for the APP.
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Posted: 12/15/2019 12:53:25 AM EDT
[#26]
I'm doing a wait and see on this press as I have 6 progressives and 4 single stages already.
For me the decapping with a push through shellholder holds my intrest. I already have 12 Lee sizing dies, so wouldn't want to replace them. I plan on mounting a RCBS JR upside down for bullet sizing as a future project. Lots of guys doing that at the Cast bullets forum. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:45:16 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j97531:
Thanks for responding, your study matches mine. I am in need of a standalone machine to decap and swage - preferably in one step. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j97531:
Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: I haven't seen the press other than in pictures but I can't see how it would be. Wouldn't the spent primer and decapping pin be in the way? Also I doubt the decapping pin will work as a holddown rod during the swage process. |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:31:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer:
I'm missing something because I'm not seeing the appeal to anyone who already has a progressive and Dillon bench-mounted crimp swager. I think the appeal must be to those who do not. It seems to appeal most strongly to casters and single stage reloaders. For me, at a cost of $200, it would allow me to swage instead of ream primer pockets. The thing is, for me, most of my brass does not have crimped primers and the drill press/reamer I use is really fast and cheap ($5). |
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:44:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djryan13]
[#29]
Appeal for some is bulge buster and bullet sizing. I have 2 Revolutions, one 1050, 2 550’s and an 1100 on order.... still looking for an easy cheap way to bust my bulge and size my bullets.
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Posted: 12/15/2019 1:50:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trollslayer: For me, at a cost of $200, it would allow me to swage instead of ream primer pockets. The thing is, for me, most of my brass does not have crimped primers and the drill press/reamer I use is really fast and cheap ($5). |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2019 4:41:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blowout]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: That would seem straightforward. Some type of stand alone base that lines up with the APP feed tube should be all that's needed no? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: That would seem straightforward. Some type of stand alone base that lines up with the APP feed tube should be all that's needed no? Originally Posted By jbizzle:
I was thinking of trying it by connecting a flexible tube similar to the Mr Bullet Feeder one on the Dillon case feed and connecting it to to the APP. Thought a video might already be out there already of someone adapting a case feeder before the APP release. In the Lee video, the guy has his left hand on the press stand to keep it steady while he cranks with the right. Not very ergonomic. The stand is likely to provide clearance for the bottle underneath, but this may not work if folks have their bench height taller like I do. I'd want to eliminate the bottle to drop the height and add a tube on the bottom to route to a bucket on the floor. I usually bulge bust 500 - 1000 cases at a time and that little bottle isn't going to cut it either. Probably getting ahead of myself and just need to wait till it comes out to figure out if it will work for my needs.... |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 9:31:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/25/2019 5:10:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryCase feeder should be really simple. The kick out eliminates the rubber band and sheet/towel method with the Dillon, lol.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 5:29:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chewbacca:
Interesting 
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Posted: 12/25/2019 5:51:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Any pre-order people heard anything? Probably not being Christmas and all. Hopefully these will be shipping soon.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 6:03:43 PM EDT
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Im really fighting the urge to not buy this. Seems like i could deprime pistol cases in front of tv, then hand prime the cases in front of tv so they're ready for my lee turret.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 7:59:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Any pre-order people heard anything? Probably not being Christmas and all. Hopefully these will be shipping soon. Waiting patiently. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:32:49 PM EDT
[#38]
They said there was a delay and I'm seeing 1-24-2020 as the new date.
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Posted: 1/2/2020 2:11:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: monkeypunch]
[#39]
Quote HistoryI am tired of reaming primer pockets on my FA case prep machine. My hands hate it, and it takes forever. Do you guys think this is better then a Dillon Super Swag? Realistically, its probable all I would use it for. I don't do lead bullets or anything like that.
Edit: just watched the recapping video on Titans website. I would probably use it for that too. I'm currently using a lee single stage and universal decapping die. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 2:39:37 PM EDT
[#40]
If I can get it to work with my Dillon case feeder, I’ll be selling my super swager.
I don’t care it’s over twice the cost, speed and reliability mean more than the money. Can’t bring myself to pay what Dillon is asking for the CP2000. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 2:50:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currently:
If I can get it to work with my Dillon case feeder, I’ll be selling my super swager. I don’t care it’s over twice the cost, speed and reliability mean more than the money. Can’t bring myself to pay what Dillon is asking for the CP2000. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 6:59:56 PM EDT
[#42]
I’m buying one of these once MidSouth has them in stock.
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Posted: 1/2/2020 9:08:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By romad99:
I’m buying one of these once MidSouth has them in stock. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 9:46:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Asked about this press today. Looking at a few more weeks probably. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2020 12:27:59 PM EDT
[#45]
In typical Lee fashion they are going to nickel and dime you for it to work at its full capabilities, but they really never tell you that in their hype.
I ordered one in early January, still haven't received it. Got email from titan saying the lee swage kit I pre-ordered was old kit, and they updated to new kit which is $8.76 more...fine. I bought this thing to quickly decap and then quickly swage. APP deluxe kit $78.49 + new swage tool $31 = $110 plus $9.80 shipping = ~ $120 However, I contacted Lee and found out the 4 tubes in the deluxe automation kit are basically for bullets, yes 1 or 2 tubes will work for 9mm brass cases, or 223 cases, but you will need to fill those 1 or 2 tubes by hand repeatedly. The collator will not work with it. In order to get near un-interrupted thru-put you need the Universal Case Feeder. Universal will have 4 tubes able to accept any size case, it will accept the cheesy plastic case collator, and it will rotate to a filled tube, after a one of four tubes is emptied. The deluxe automation kit will not do this. So, if you don't have that already, that's another $26 for the feed system and $12 for the collator not to mention more shipping costs. They finally released the instructions on their website. They actually have a caution in the instructions, that you should not use the press for resizing bottle neck cases with the new X-press shell holders!! They also have notice in there that you may need a "heavy duty guided decapping" rod to your existing universal decap die...can't find a price for that, but again more nickel and dime stuff. There was never any mention of this on their website touting the press. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 5:33:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trdjohn:
However, I contacted Lee and found out the 4 tubes in the deluxe automation kit are basically for bullets, yes 1 or 2 tubes will work for 9mm brass cases, or 223 cases, but you will need to fill those 1 or 2 tubes by hand repeatedly. The collator will not work with it. In order to get near un-interrupted thru-put you need the Universal Case Feeder. Universal will have 4 tubes able to accept any size case, it will accept the cheesy plastic case collator, and it will rotate to a filled tube, after a one of four tubes is emptied. The deluxe automation kit will not do this. So, if you don't have that already, that's another $26 for the feed system and $12 for the collator not to mention more shipping costs. I guess I got more junk to sit around on my bench as I don't cast my own bullets anymore. If press works well I guess I will spend the money on the Universal Case Feeder...kind of fail this was conveyed. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:03:05 PM EDT
[#47]
There's a fellow over on the Brian Enos forum who has received his press. He has it mounted but hasn't actually used it yet.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 7:28:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
There's a fellow over on the Brian Enos forum who has received his press. He has it mounted but hasn't actually used it yet. I would like one of these for depriming, but will wait for the bugs to be worked out. I admire the beta testers. |
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Posted: 1/26/2020 12:00:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
[#49]
Unboxing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLXaV3JJkK0&t=0s De-capping FAIL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3kpbcq1Vwo Edit to make those links hot. (use the chain icon  ) dryflash3
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Posted: 1/26/2020 7:32:31 AM EDT
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Those videos were horrible to watch. Terrible slow pace, I skipped ahead a lot.
First thing I notice is the bench top. 3/8 plywood top, not good. At least the press doesn't flex the bench like in other peoples videos. I would want one for decapping, but there would be a lot of different parts to buy. Shellholders, pusher piece, and I am not a fan of bushings. LNL or Lee. Now all I have to do to decap is change a shellholder I already have with my present single stage. Decaping video, looks like they need a fail safe rod, spring didn't work every time. I want to like it, maybe with a better review.... |
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