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Posted: 1/28/2014 4:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mekks: Has trouble finding the items local so I bought some dillon spray lube while placing an order for some powder. I resized 2500 cases lastnight (.223) and OMG! this is so much faster than imperial wax. And also no shoulder dents! Soon as I hit the 1/2 way mark on this dillon bottle I will order some stuff to make bootleg lube! |
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Posted: 1/28/2014 7:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Do you have a Whole Foods near you? They sell Lanolin. Just go to the Auto store and get ISO Heet for the 99% alcohol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By Mekks:
Has trouble finding the items local so I bought some dillon spray lube while placing an order for some powder. I resized 2500 cases lastnight (.223) and OMG! this is so much faster than imperial wax. And also no shoulder dents! Soon as I hit the 1/2 way mark on this dillon bottle I will order some stuff to make bootleg lube! Unfortunately, not all Whole Foods stores stock lanolin. I visited BOTH of their stores in San Antonio, and even the mothership/flagship/amusement park store on Lamar in Austin (their headquarters store), and none had lanolin of any kind on hand. Shea butter, yes, but don't try lubing cases with that! 
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Posted: 1/28/2014 10:18:23 PM EDT
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I still have 3 oz left. I can send you 2.
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HI, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2014 11:30:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrTinkels:
I wanted to bump this thread to let people know ( Might have already been said ) If you go to walmart and ask for 99ipa they can order it for you. Mine took 1 day and it was 7 bucks. Also, I found out my local Safeway grocery store stocks 99% IPA, was 4 bucks for 16 oz. |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2014 11:35:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: anon]
[#5]
I mixed up a batch at around 9 to 1.
Put it in an old Dillon bottle and see that it looks a lot more concentrated that the original. Haven't tried it yet, but I may be able to go well below 9:1. Anyone found the sweet spot? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 1:35:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anon: I mixed up a batch at around 9 to 1. Put it in an old Dillon bottle and see that it looks a lot more concentrated that the original. Haven't tried it yet, but I may be able to go well below 9:1. Anyone found the sweet spot? |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 3:21:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
I only tried 12:1 and its pretty sweet lol. Can probably go thinner but this works great. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By anon:
I mixed up a batch at around 9 to 1. Put it in an old Dillon bottle and see that it looks a lot more concentrated that the original. Haven't tried it yet, but I may be able to go well below 9:1. Anyone found the sweet spot? +1 drop of dawn makes it work very well. I haven't tried any other concentration except the 12:1. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 9:03:47 AM EDT
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After reading this thread, I ordered some liquid lanolin and bought some IsoHeet. Mixed about 1.5 ounces LL and the 12 ounce bottle of IsoHeet.
Put a bunch of .223 cases in a cardboard box and gave it a couple light sprays of the homemade lube. Shook things around and gave it another spray or two, making sure I got some in the case necks. Let it dry for about ten minutes, and then ran the cases through my Lee FL sizing die. Man what a difference! Everything went smooth and silky, with not a hint of a case getting stuck. It was actually smooth enough, I could feel the slack in the die closing up and the shoulder being bumped back. I'm thrilled. I've held off on reloading much .223 because case prep is such a hassle. I was previously using Imperial wax, but that was a pain. It's slow, doesn't work as well, and even 30 minutes in the tumbler afterward still left the cases feeling gunky. This is worlds better. Thanks to the OP for getting the secret out. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/23/2014 1:43:14 PM EDT
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It's good stuff.
Much better than anything else I've tried I'm running it at about 15-16 to 1 now. Not as messy and it's working very well for my 223 brass. I'm lucky as I can get lanolin(hippy store) and 99%(Safeway) locally. |
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Posted: 2/24/2014 3:01:03 PM EDT
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i odered some oil went driving around today to try to find a empty spray bottle no luck. i have some in the garage but there all have stuff in them and cant remember where i bought the dam things at
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Posted: 2/24/2014 4:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynbye: i odered some oil went driving around today to try to find a empty spray bottle no luck. i have some in the garage but there all have stuff in them and cant remember where i bought the dam things at |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 12:12:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynbye:
i odered some oil went driving around today to try to find a empty spray bottle no luck. i have some in the garage but there all have stuff in them and cant remember where i bought the dam things at I found mine under the mops and brooms in the cleaning supply aisle of Walmart. I know Home Depot carries them in the cleaning supplies aisle as well--I have a couple I've had for years which hold Purple Power. Still going strong. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 3/6/2014 2:54:11 PM EDT
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well it warmed up to 20 today so I went in the garage and resize 100 rd of 223 and this stuff is nice. but when it gets cold it thickens up a little bit or may I just sprayed to much on so I added just a little more achool to the mix I think every thing will be just fine
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Posted: 3/6/2014 7:06:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHunt: Thank You! I have been trying to figure out a good cheap way to make a good homemade spray lube. I second the Iso-Heet as it is 99% Isopropyl alcohol and is the only way I have been able to get Isopropyl that pure. The drug store has 50% 70% and 91%. |
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Posted: 5/12/2014 5:53:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hanzerik]
[#15]
Think I got the correct stuff. Was trying some Lee stuff I've had for a few years, but it seems like it'll be a pain to do 150 308 cases.
100% pure liquid lanolin (local health food place) $7@4oz ISO-HEET $1.somthing wallyworld Spray bottle. ETA: just used it to size the other 45 cases I had left out of this first batch, worked good. Guess the test will be with the federal 7.62 brass I have left. They are always much harder to size then the black hills and Winchester 308 brass. Hopefully I did it right: 12 bottle of iso-heet, 1oz of lanolin, mix well. Put brass in big zip lock, give a spray, and shake and bake for a bit, pull them out and place them in a loading block to dry. |
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Posted: 5/12/2014 10:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanzerik: Think I got the correct stuff. Was trying some Lee stuff I've had for a few years, but it seems like it'll be a pain to do 150 308 cases. 100% pure liquid lanolin (local health food place) $7@4oz ISO-HEET $1.somthing wallyworld Spray bottle. ETA: just used it to size the other 45 cases I had left out of this first batch, worked good. Guess the test will be with the federal 7.62 brass I have left. They are always much harder to size then the black hills and Winchester 308 brass. Hopefully I did it ']Put brass in big zip lock, give a spray, and shake and bake for a bit, pull them out and place them in a loading block to dry.[/span] |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2014 11:28:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anon:
I mixed up a batch at around 9 to 1. Put it in an old Dillon bottle and see that it looks a lot more concentrated that the original. Haven't tried it yet, but I may be able to go well below 9:1. Anyone found the sweet spot? 12:1 was perfect for me |
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Posted: 5/13/2014 9:51:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blazeAR:
Also, I found out my local Safeway grocery store stocks 99% IPA, was 4 bucks for 16 oz. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blazeAR:
Originally Posted By MrTinkels:
I wanted to bump this thread to let people know ( Might have already been said ) If you go to walmart and ask for 99ipa they can order it for you. Mine took 1 day and it was 7 bucks. Also, I found out my local Safeway grocery store stocks 99% IPA, was 4 bucks for 16 oz. WM's bar code for the 91% is 7906800396 this is from VI-JON here's another 91% WM product 91% Isopropyl Alcohol First Aid Antiseptic, 32 fl oz In stores only Model No.: 1000039050 Walmart No.: 551780428 |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2014 10:34:32 AM EDT
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Love the thread! Found Liquid Lanolin at Sprouts (pretty expensive at $9 for 4 oz, but I wanted to try it), and down the street was 99% Alcohol at Vons for about $5 for 16oz. Mixed up a batch at 12:1 last night and used a plastic baggie to spray/mix. Only put about 4 good squirts in the baggie (100 rounds), then let it dry and ran them through my Hornady LnL.
Slick as butter! I'm never going back to any factory lube, lol. |
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Posted: 5/13/2014 11:53:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AeroE]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Do you have a Whole Foods near you? They sell Lanolin. Just go to the Auto store and get ISO Heet for the 99% alcohol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By Mekks:
Has trouble finding the items local so I bought some dillon spray lube while placing an order for some powder. I resized 2500 cases lastnight (.223) and OMG! this is so much faster than imperial wax. And also no shoulder dents! Soon as I hit the 1/2 way mark on this dillon bottle I will order some stuff to make bootleg lube! It's not possible to get shoulder dents with Imperial - if it's applied in the correct amount, which is just the thinnest film that should be barely visible. As for efficiency, there are a couple write ups in the tacked thread that describe two efficient methods for applying Imperial. I tumble Imperial off in 8 to 10 minutes tops with clean, untreated corn cob in my rotary tumbler, or about 15 minutes in untreated walnut in a vibratory tumbler. If your cases are coming out with lube remaining after tumbling media that has been gunked up with additives, that should be no surprise, the media's job is to absorb the lube from the cases. There's hardly anything nastier than treated tumbling media, except maybe a lube pad. I don't use either one. Sunday I fooled around with some lube sold by Jim Carstenson, Sharp Shoot R Royal Case Sizing Wax; very nice lube until the day gets hot. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2014 10:58:47 AM EDT
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This morning I started sizing a couple hundred cases and after my second stuck case decided I'd finally mix some of this up. I bought lanolin and IPA some last winter for when my imperial wax ran out. I cannot believe how much easier it is to size cases now, almost no pressure required and not even close to getting stuck. I'm sure I wasn't using Imperial correctly or something, but I don't care now. This is way faster and way easier.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:33:14 PM EDT
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Haven't really had any problems with "2-shot" other than price. Found the supplies locally to mix up some of this B.L.C.
Iso Heat and pure liquid lanolin from the local hippy store. Good thing I looked around as the female behind the counter said they did not carry it. Just need to find a sprayer and I'll give it a shot on some 6.8 brass tonight. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:38:31 PM EDT
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Have to try this.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:54:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SCPigpen:
Have to try this. Its works great. Hardest part is finding IPA thats not piss water. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/28/2014 5:47:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattf26:
Its works great. Hardest part is finding IPA thats not piss water. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattf26:
Originally Posted By SCPigpen:
Have to try this. Its works great. Hardest part is finding IPA thats not piss water. No problem finding ISO HEET in red bottle .... 99 % 10 and 12 oz sizes by the shelf full at most auto parts stores and wally worlds cheap |
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Posted: 7/28/2014 5:54:36 PM EDT
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My local grocery has 91% IPA (and 70% and 50%) on the shelf all the time. It works out to be less than denatured alcohol or ISO, at least for me.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2014 6:02:30 PM EDT
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Which works better??? Lanolin oil or the lanolin solid/creamy stuff?
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Posted: 8/25/2014 8:02:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azlester:
Which works better??? Lanolin oil or the lanolin solid/creamy stuff? LIQUID lanolin. The "butter" or anhydrous type needs to be heated to mix, heated to get re-mixed, and it's a pain. I bought liquid lanolin later to make the more correct mix, and it works much better because it's easier to use. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2014 8:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
LIQUID lanolin. The "butter" or anhydrous type needs to be heated to mix, heated to get re-mixed, and it's a pain. I bought liquid lanolin later to make the more correct mix, and it works much better because it's easier to use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
Originally Posted By azlester:
Which works better??? Lanolin oil or the lanolin solid/creamy stuff? LIQUID lanolin. The "butter" or anhydrous type needs to be heated to mix, heated to get re-mixed, and it's a pain. I bought liquid lanolin later to make the more correct mix, and it works much better because it's easier to use. Very true, I tried the lanolin butter it does not mix well and it does settle. I ordered liquid lanoline off Amazon and mixed it 20:1 with IsoHeat and it works perfectly. Vince |
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Posted: 9/20/2014 11:09:19 AM EDT
[#30]
A Bump because of the stuck case thread.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:09:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dryflash3]
[#31]
Unless liquid lanolin and 99% iso-alcohol are commonly used together you guys have bought enough of that combo on amazon to influence the "Frequently bought together" suggestion when you go to Home Health's Liquid Lanolin, 4oz. Strong work, boys. I'm impressed.
<image removed> as it's off topic to the subject of reloading. You want to post this kind of thing stay in GD. (general discussion) dryflash3 |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:33:23 AM EDT
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Tag for later thanks.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2014 8:56:49 AM EDT
[#33]
I read this thread two years ago and tried it.
WORKS GREAT got the Liquid Linolin on Amazon and ISO Heat at auto parts Sticky for top of reloading page? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 9:02:30 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgerh:
I read this thread two years ago and tried it. WORKS GREAT got the Liquid Linolin on Amazon and ISO Heat at auto parts Sticky for top of reloading page? No, members need to read the threads that are already provided. I'm thinking that we're due for another clean up, there are too many tacked threads again. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 2:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgerh: I read this thread two years ago and tried it. WORKS GREAT got the Liquid Linolin on Amazon and ISO Heat at auto parts Sticky for top of reloading page? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/258520_Read__First___useful_threads_for_answering_questions.html Already stickied right here. You must have missed it. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:01:26 PM EDT
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you are right too many sticky threads that's why I missed it
clean them all out, start with a clean sheet
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CA, USA
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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:12:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Picked up the elusive 99% Isopropyl OH at the local Safeway yesterday, just as suggested in 3rd post of this thread.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 4:36:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skeet6:
THIS Try this, cheap and works great!!! (Gardner-Bender Cable pulling lube... read about it I think on surplusrifle.com some years ago...) Mike B I've got the wire pulling gel that I use for my suppressor - wonder if that would work. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/14/2014 7:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter:
My local grocery has 91% IPA (and 70% and 50%) on the shelf all the time. It works out to be less than denatured alcohol or ISO, at least for me. Never use denatured alcohol it contains a mix of various chemicals to denature it ( make it unfit for human consumption). 99% or ISO Heat is the way to go. V |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 1:57:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bags533:
With straight wall pistol cases using carbide dies, then they go right through the press in one process. No lube necessary with cabide dies? I've lubed pistol brass for a carbide sizing die to make it easier to size, and it works well. But, in my limited experience, the die gets dirtier quicker when I lube the case, as opposed to when I don't lube the pistol brass with the carbide dies. As much as I want to give the pistol brass a quick spritz of lube (this has occurred with Hornady One Shot or the Bootleg lube), the sizing die gets dirty enough that I have to clean it before a 100 rounds have been processed. When I don't lube the brass (it's all wet tumbled) I don't have a problem with a dirty sizing die until about 300 rounds through it. This is just my experience, I'm sure I could be doing something wrong. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bags533:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
In on the third year. 
I'm noticing that most of you are saying that you lube the cases, size them, and then tumble them again to remove the lube before loading. That might work well for a single stage user, but what about a turret or progressive press? That's the same process I use with my 550. With straight wall pistol cases using carbide dies, then they go right through the press in one process. No lube necessary with cabide dies? I've lubed pistol brass for a carbide sizing die to make it easier to size, and it works well. But, in my limited experience, the die gets dirtier quicker when I lube the case, as opposed to when I don't lube the pistol brass with the carbide dies. As much as I want to give the pistol brass a quick spritz of lube (this has occurred with Hornady One Shot or the Bootleg lube), the sizing die gets dirty enough that I have to clean it before a 100 rounds have been processed. When I don't lube the brass (it's all wet tumbled) I don't have a problem with a dirty sizing die until about 300 rounds through it. This is just my experience, I'm sure I could be doing something wrong. I'm about to get started with reloading, so pardon my ignorance, how do you actually clean a die? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2014 9:59:54 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoop:
I'm about to get started with reloading, so pardon my ignorance, how do you actually clean a die? I use a "Q" Tip and alcohol to swab the insides of the dies. On the sizing die you must remove the de-capping pin. V |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 3:47:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoop: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stoop: snip I'm about to get started with reloading, so pardon my ignorance, how do you actually clean a die? Take apart die. Clean all surfaces with alcohol. Remove any build up of crud with an alcohol soaked clean rag. Relube with sizing lube. Put back together and adjust. If you have any more questions, please start your own thread and ask. I would like to stay on topic in this thread. Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/24/2015 4:14:36 PM EDT
[#43]
I have found that 16:1 99% Alcohol/Lanolin is about right to me. YMVV
I prepare my .223 rifle brass with my single stage press. I tumble just long enough to clean the outside well. I spray on the lube to about 100 cases at a time in a box with a paper towel in the bottom making sure to get lube inside the necks. Then size, trim, etc. When I'm done with the brass prep, I wet tumble them with SS pins, dawn and lemishine. Then they are ready to load using my RL550B with a universal decapping die in the 1st station. For pistol, like 9mm, 45ACP, .40S&W I tumble them in walnut hulls with a bit of polishing compound, mine came from Midway. That's pretty much all I do to pistol cases. I do check the batch to see if they are in need of trimming, most never need it. I use Dillon dies in the 550. The size die is a carbide type die and you don't have to use lube. But I fold a shop rag in 1/4 and saturate part of it with 16:1 lube. I then rub my fingers on the rag before I pick up a case and on the way to station one, I rub the case with my fingers. This gets just enough lube on the case to make go through the size die like it's not even there. I do about 1 ever 3rd case, just kinda go by the way it feels trying to keep the press going consistently. This gets so little lube on the case that I don't even tumble it off. They store well and shoot great. All these steps were gleaned from users of this forum and I just kinda found what works best for me. Except using my fingers to lube the pistol cases. I just gave that a try and it works great. YMMV |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2015 5:40:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Ideal Yellow wire pulling lubricant is $6 for a 32 oz bottle at Lowes. It works very well and is non-toxic.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2015 4:32:58 AM EDT
[#45]
I used a 1:10 lanolin/99% Iso mixture to lube before resizing 7.62x39 Vmax bullets to 308 for use in 300blk loads. Worked better than the RCBS case lube. Letting the mixture dry well on the bullets worked alot better than a shorter drying time.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2015 11:43:52 AM EDT
[#46]
Great stuff and a great thread!
Running 8:1 ratio liquid lanolin to Red HEET. Works like a champ when sizing. This is what I bought: Liquid Lanolin The price went up alot. I think mine was like $4.50a few months back. With Amazon, prices fluctuate all the time, so be sure to check other options |
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Posted: 2/25/2015 11:53:27 AM EDT
[#47]
I have noticed that there is a white flaky substance settling out in the bottom of my lanolin/alcohol mixture.
I can shake it up and it seems to be working about the same as always. But the residue is still in the bottom. Anyone else seen this? |
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Posted: 2/25/2015 12:03:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By overdriv:
I have noticed that there is a white flaky substance settling out in the bottom of my lanolin/alcohol mixture. I can shake it up and it seems to be working about the same as always. But the residue is still in the bottom. Anyone else seen this? Not in mine and its been sitting for months. Probably water. What % alcohol are you using? EDIT nvm you are using 99% What kind of Lanolin are you using? |
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Posted: 2/25/2015 12:10:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Not in mine and its been sitting for months. Probably water. What % alcohol are you using? EDIT nvm you are using 99% Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Originally Posted By overdriv:
I have noticed that there is a white flaky substance settling out in the bottom of my lanolin/alcohol mixture. I can shake it up and it seems to be working about the same as always. But the residue is still in the bottom. Anyone else seen this? Not in mine and its been sitting for months. Probably water. What % alcohol are you using? EDIT nvm you are using 99% 99% Isopropol and liquid lanolin. It's not water, because it does not go back into suspension after shaking. It's a white and flaky. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2015 12:14:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By overdriv:
I have noticed that there is a white flaky substance settling out in the bottom of my lanolin/alcohol mixture. I can shake it up and it seems to be working about the same as always. But the residue is still in the bottom. Anyone else seen this? Probably not a big deal. Its likely something else in the Lanolin that is an additive. I get a little something settling out on mine as well. I just shake and spray. No issues. |
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