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Posted: 8/29/2010 6:20:21 AM EDT
I am looking at 2 powders, both from Wideners.

WC867

WC872

Which of these is the better powder? Where can I get reloading data?
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 7:08:38 AM EDT
What projectile? What barrel length?
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 7:54:56 AM EDT
API surplus bullets out of a Barret M82
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 4:19:09 PM EDT
I purchased 16 lbs of WC860 GI pulled powder and had nothing but trouble with it. There was dust mixed in it and I had to pour it in front of a fan to clean the dust out of it. I also picked up 24 lbs of AA8700 which I really like and gives me a much better average velocity. The next powder I want to try will be Hogdon H50.
Good luck and take you time and be careful while weighing your charges.
I wish I could tell you about the two powders you are talking about but I do believe that AA8700 iis a close powder and you can use the data from it for the other two. Just be careful and take your time measuring the powder.
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 4:47:05 PM EDT
225gr of either powder will work OK with that projectile.
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 6:31:28 PM EDT
When you say "It will work okay" Do you mean I will be satisfied, or that is sucks?
Link Posted: 8/29/2010 8:03:49 PM EDT
API bullets aren't known for their accuracy... mostly just for catchin' things afire :)

225gr of those powders is usually as good an accuracy load (moderate velocity around 2700fps) as you'll get in a 29" bolt gun and it will still reliably operate a semi-auto or beltfed as well.
Link Posted: 8/30/2010 4:45:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By akconvert:
When you say "It will work okay" Do you mean I will be satisfied, or that is sucks?

You're asking about surplus bullets and surplus powder, what are you expecting?



Link Posted: 9/1/2010 5:40:58 PM EDT
So, of those 2 which would be a better choice?
Link Posted: 9/1/2010 8:43:28 PM EDT
which ever you can get cheaper...
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 11:48:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By imtheflash:

Originally Posted By akconvert:
When you say "It will work okay" Do you mean I will be satisfied, or that is sucks?

You're asking about surplus bullets and surplus powder, what are you expecting?



Exactly, well said. (What?? I am agreeing with imtheflash? Well the guy is right, right?)

On one of my earlier outings @ 600 yrs I had loaded up some SA ball and some AMax rounds and shot them on the same day with the weather staying calm while shooting. Now I am no great sharp shooter, but the results were an eye opener. With the SA ball my group was like 24" with some flyers opening it up to about 36" Then I started shooting the AMax (only had 10 with me that day). and needed to do a little dialing it in. You can see two shots then a drop and two shots and a drop and two shots and they where in the middle of a 5" peel and stick red bullseye. I would bet that if I had a new target and 5 more rounds I could have had a sub MOA group that day.

But this was with virgin H50BMG powder and AMax bullets. No surplus junk. Like I said it was an eye opener and I felt a lot better about my ability to hold my rifle steady and deliver the shot where I wanted it to be.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:25:55 PM EDT
I bought some WC867. I loaded up some singles to get some rough velocity data. This is single shot chrono data shot from a 32" barrel measured at 45'.

With a Surplus sized API projectile:

215 gr gave 2710 fps
220 gr gave 2754 fps
225 gr gave 2812 fps
230 gr gave 2886 fps
235 gr gave 2989 fps

With a 690 gr SA FMJ from Wideners:

215 gr gave 2604 fps
220 gr gave 2688 fps
225 gr gave 2789 fps

None of these gave me a tight bolt. 1 measurement data with my rlfle and my loads so it does not help with how consistent the burn is. Next project is to load up some 5 rnd sets to try out. I am going to load up some on either side of the 2750 fps range to see how it groups.
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