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Several have already been mentioned....why would I need to repeat what was already stated? LPVO is the name of the game and many excellent reticle can be had that are better......and cheaper.

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Cost is subjective,  show me a LPVO that can be used under NODs effectively like the elcan?

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Sight in / zero @ 6X and don't worry about it.

You will not likely be using 1X for long range ( or maybe you do) and sighting in and firing @ 6X there is no shift.
Dropping down to 1X is for CQB use and the shift is minimal and well withing the red dot MOA size.


https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/elcan-specterdr-1x-4x-shift-test.41250/

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Anyone got leads on where to get decent prices on Elcan optics?

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Elcan makes nice stuff and its tough as nails.
I often wonder people that claim they have issues if they have a real Elcan or a knock off.

LOTS of fakes and airsoft crap.

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Both of mine were from....*shudder*... Optics Planet. With the 10% off codes you can find, I couldn't find a better price anywhere else. On top of that, with the high dollar purchases you net a pretty good amount of their internal rewards dollars. $1952 before tax for my 1.5-6x (could have gotten the black 1.5-6x for $1800, but I wanted a 7th shade of FDE on my 17 ), and another 40-something in rewards dollars that you can use on whatever you want. $1575 for my 1-4x. Their prices change often (either up or down), so you have to time it right.

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I want to know what you think is better, i dont care what everyone else has mentioned.  

Cost is subjective,  show me a LPVO that can be used under NODs effectively like the elcan? As durable as an elcan, as compact as an elcan and weights less than an elcan............go ahead, I will wait.

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Oh, look, someone trying to justify their purchase. How cute. I would be dropping coin on either Vortex or Trijicon. If I went the Vortex route, I would be getting a Razor HD Gen III in 10x. If I went the Trijicon route, I'd be looking at the VCOG in 8x. Compact and weight are just as subjective as cost......go figure.

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I am looking at upgrading the optic setup for my 16 and 17. Have my tax stamps and need to get my barrels cut down to length. Right now I am running an Aimpoint Comp M4S on my 16 and a PA 3x ACSS Prism on my 17. The 17 is the priority for upgrading, but wouldn't mind putting the Aimpoint on another rifle and possibly getting something new for the 16.

From my research it seems three of the better options based on what people recommend for the SCAR would be:

- a quality LPVO (something like 1-6x or 1-8x)
- an EOTech + G33 magnifier
- Elcan SpectreDR

I understand the advantage the LPVO offers with the higher magnification (6x/8x) that I would get over a SpectreDR or a G33 magnifier. Something like a Vortex Razor II 1-6x or the new 1-10x won't save me much weight over the Elcan or EOTech + G33. They are all close enough that it seems like a wash.

I run EOTechs on several other guns and I like them. But for the SCAR I would an optic with some sort of BDC. One negative with the EOTech for the SCAR17, is that none of the EOTech EXPS3-4 reticles work for 7.62x51, just 5.56. So that kind of takes it off the list for the 17 at least. Would work for the 16.

Then the SpectreDR which has come down quite a lot recently and is more attractive now for around $1500-1600 range. Honestly I probably shoot my 16 out to 350-400 yards max. The 17 out to 600-650 yards max, but more often much closer.. So while a 1-8x or 1-10x might be nice to have, the magnification is just a bit of an overkill for the distances I typically shoot at.

So how does the SpectreDR stack up against other optic options available today? I know it isn't perfect, but it seems like a very good option. Unless there is something else I should consider for a 13" SCAR 17 or a 10" SCAR 16?

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Iam glad you came back to the conversation, I was getting worried you were having a hard time trying to find answer on google.  Either way nothing you posted was of any value to the conversation.  Thanks

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Oh, look, someone trying to justify their purchase. How cute. I would be dropping coin on either Vortex or Trijicon. If I went the Vortex route, I would be getting a Razor HD Gen III in 10x. If I went the Trijicon route, I'd be looking at the VCOG in 8x. Compact and weight are just as subjective as cost......go figure.