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Posted: 9/11/2020 3:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks!  This may end up as popular as those little plastic vise blocks  It is pretty wild to watch people play around with the Centrix for the first time and see the 'Ah ha!' moment when they get it!  Sometimes you have to think outside of the can! 
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Posted: 10/20/2020 7:31:33 PM EDT
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Resurrecting this old thread if anyone cares. According to Instagram, the Xenomorph is "coming very soon". It appears to be left hand thread which is neat.
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Posted: 10/20/2020 8:21:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Resurrecting this old thread if anyone cares. According to Instagram, the Xenomorph is "coming very soon". It appears to be left hand thread which is neat. |
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Posted: 10/20/2020 10:01:23 PM EDT
[#4]
I wonder if they will be making one for the wolfman.
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Posted: 10/20/2020 10:55:51 PM EDT
[#5]
It’s about time!!!
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Posted: 10/22/2020 12:40:48 AM EDT
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I hope a xeno 3-prong FH (with a perfect length to p/w to a 13.9" barrel) is on their immediate roadmap. That would be an instant buy for me.
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Posted: 10/22/2020 12:10:49 PM EDT
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Maybe they could push "Coming Very Soon" to "Coming Pretty Soon" and use the time to pivot to a left hand thread system for maximum awesomeness.
As it is, I don't really get the selling point over the well established and widely available GA taper mount system. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 1:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As it is, I don't really get the selling point over the well established and widely available GA taper mount system. DeadAir>Griffin is a selling point. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 3:26:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2020 4:12:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2020 6:25:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://flic.kr/p/2jXZQL3 why not just make it A2 style and shim. Wrench flats not perfectly vertical would annoy me. Edit: I'm that guy someone prophesized on page 1 of this threaded lol. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 6:37:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It appeals to the taper location pea-under-the-mattress fetishists who don’t shoot much (or if they do, don’t clean) their mounts and muzzle devices. You don’t hear a lot of complaints about Thunderbeast’s setup, and not just because spending money is a Qwonderful tongue adhesive. Closed tine flash hiders have their benefits in nasty scrub and this arrangement is probably a little lighter/cheaper than a Keymo/Forward Controls set up. I bet when the vapor ware condenses this proves to be a very decent option. The Griffin family does have quite a few sweet spots in it, and making a custom muzzle device or mount is simple on a manual lathe. For example, if a handguard is just a bit too long a muzzle device with the taper just proud of the handguard is easy to create for a custom fit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe they could push "Coming Very Soon" to "Coming Pretty Soon" and use the time to pivot to a left hand thread system for maximum awesomeness. As it is, I don't really get the selling point over the well established and widely available GA taper mount system. It appeals to the taper location pea-under-the-mattress fetishists who don’t shoot much (or if they do, don’t clean) their mounts and muzzle devices. You don’t hear a lot of complaints about Thunderbeast’s setup, and not just because spending money is a Qwonderful tongue adhesive. Closed tine flash hiders have their benefits in nasty scrub and this arrangement is probably a little lighter/cheaper than a Keymo/Forward Controls set up. I bet when the vapor ware condenses this proves to be a very decent option. The Griffin family does have quite a few sweet spots in it, and making a custom muzzle device or mount is simple on a manual lathe. For example, if a handguard is just a bit too long a muzzle device with the taper just proud of the handguard is easy to create for a custom fit. The only reason I care is because it looks almost like an A2 flash hider, and I can put it on my clones without mucking them up too badly. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 7:11:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2020 12:41:13 AM EDT
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Lol..all the hype for a A2 style FH that’s been done before..ohh ok oh threads..;)
Even better if the price is a arm and a leg like the keymo adapters..  
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Posted: 10/23/2020 8:05:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol..all the hype for a A2 style FH that’s been done before..ohh ok oh threads..;) Even better if the price is a arm and a leg like the keymo adapters.. I dont get it either. 
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Posted: 10/23/2020 11:45:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DeadAir>Griffin is a selling point. Quote HistoryQuoted: DeadAir>Griffin is a selling point. Meh.. Quoted: It appeals to the taper location pea-under-the-mattress fetishists who don’t shoot much (or if they do, don’t clean) their mounts and muzzle devices. You don’t hear a lot of complaints about Thunderbeast’s setup, and not just because spending money is a Qwonderful tongue adhesive. Closed tine flash hiders have their benefits in nasty scrub and this arrangement is probably a little lighter/cheaper than a Keymo/Forward Controls set up. I bet when the vapor ware condenses this proves to be a very decent option. The Griffin family does have quite a few sweet spots in it, and making a custom muzzle device or mount is simple on a manual lathe. For example, if a handguard is just a bit too long a muzzle device with the taper just proud of the handguard is easy to create for a custom fit. That was kind of my suspicion, but I'd agree, in my opinion: Taper behind thread => not a real problem Mount or muzzle device coming off with a tight/hot can => a real problem |
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Posted: 10/24/2020 10:14:01 PM EDT
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After playing with one first hand. I’m sold on the system. I’ll be buying some for sure. It’s worth the wait guys. Todd knocked it out of the park again
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Posted: 11/11/2020 4:47:12 PM EDT
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Hi 1911XDM,
Could you share what some of the features you like? Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 5:20:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Just fyi, the Xeno adapter (PN DA455) just showed up at one of my distributors, so things are making their way down the pipe. MSRP is $145. Part numbers are there for flash hiders and brakes (1/2x28 and 5/8x24), but no inventory as of yet. MSRP for those is $89.
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:51:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just fyi, the Xeno adapter (PN DA455) just showed up at one of my distributors, so things are making their way down the pipe. MSRP is $145. Part numbers are there for flash hiders and brakes (1/2x28 and 5/8x24), but no inventory as of yet. MSRP for those is $89. cool. this will probably end up being the standard I use for my non key-mo suppressors. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 1:12:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After playing with one first hand. I’m sold on the system. I’ll be buying some for sure. It’s worth the wait guys. Todd knocked it out of the park again So are the mount threads left-hand or right-hand? I thought right-hand had been confirmed, but re-reading I see someone said they were left-hand. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 8:50:24 AM EDT
[#22]
 Dead Air Silencer Xenomorph Threaded Taper Mount Sneak Peek - IG Story 10/19/2020 |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 9:23:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are the mount threads left-hand or right-hand? I thought right-hand hasd been confirmed, but rereading I see someone said they were left-hand. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 9:58:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are the mount threads left-hand or right-hand? I thought right-hand hasd been confirmed, but rereading I see someone said they were left-hand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: After playing with one first hand. I’m sold on the system. I’ll be buying some for sure. It’s worth the wait guys. Todd knocked it out of the park again So are the mount threads left-hand or right-hand? I thought right-hand hasd been confirmed, but rereading I see someone said they were left-hand. The threads are left hand. Kinda like OSS. I have a close up I can share now since they are hitting shelves.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 11:52:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2020 11:59:20 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks nice, and hopefully short enough to fit inside a Nomad’s blast chamber with that mount. The nomad is the can I was playing with. Fits nice and is shorter then the keymo system. Keymo on the nomad makes it super long. |
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Posted: 11/29/2020 12:14:49 PM EDT
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The slots don’t really look as much like an A2 flash hider as I’d hoped, they’re too far apart.
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Posted: 11/29/2020 2:10:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Looks more A1 slotted to me.
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Posted: 11/29/2020 7:07:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The threads are left hand. Kinda like OSS. I have a close up I can share now since they are hitting shelves. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/D8241004-DBAE-4166-AB30-D24FE2A3B5AC_jpe-1706722.JPG Kickass, that changes things for me as it would mitigate the main downside of the 1.375x24 common mount attachment style. If they offer a weight conscious muzzle device option, I'll probably be in. Also, a Ti adapter to match my Nomad Ti .
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Posted: 11/30/2020 11:33:39 AM EDT
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We have the Xeno adapters in route now, flash hiders and brakes should be coming in the next few weeks.
Xeno products |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 4:26:06 PM EDT
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Does anyone have any pictures of what the brake looks like?
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Posted: 11/30/2020 4:43:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have the Xeno adapters in route now, flash hiders and brakes should be coming in the next few weeks. Xeno products When you get them in can you post the weights of the Adapter, Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake? |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 7:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you get them in can you post the weights of the Adapter, Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake? |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 8:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Certainly, will add the details to our website. Not ETA on the flash hider or muzzle brake. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When you get them in can you post the weights of the Adapter, Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake? Cool. Watching this thread with interest. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 8:55:32 PM EDT
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Where is Todd? I'm sure he has pictures, but havent seen him on the forums in a few months.
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Posted: 12/1/2020 2:19:18 PM EDT
[#36]
I didn't even know they were also making a xeno brake. what does it look like?
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Posted: 12/1/2020 3:28:54 PM EDT
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@Mageever give the people what they want!
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Posted: 12/1/2020 5:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the love of all that is holy though, produce enough to meet demand! |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 8:14:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For the love of all that is holy though, produce enough to meet demand! Lol |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 11:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you get them in can you post the weights of the Adapter, Flash Hider and Muzzle Brake? "Who’s ready for the Xeno Mount? They’re shipped to our wholesale partners. Head to your dealer to request your Xeno Mount today! Details?? DA121 ½-28 XENO FLASH HIDER Length: 2.16 In. OD: .99 In. Weight: 3.20 Oz. (1/2-28 is heaviest of mounts due to the small thread. 5/8-24 version will weigh 2.85 Oz., with more minimalistic mounts and threads in the pipeline) Material: 4140 HT QPQ Black Nitride coated. This offers the following: -Higher hardness -Higher corrosion resistance -Won’t gall and seize up parts like stainless steel does Through bore: .343 in. Tool features: 3/4 in wrench feature. Product is left-hand threaded on mating threads for DA455 Adapter DA455 XENO ADAPTER, NOMAD Length: 1.125 In. (Length added to suppressor: .685 In.) OD: 1.55 In. Weight: 1.95 Oz. Material: 4140 HT QPQ Black Nitride (same benefits as above) Tool Features: 1-1/8" Socket and 1.5" Hook Spanner compatible Threads: Product is left-hand threaded on mating threads for Xeno Muzzle Devices. Standard 1.375-24 thread for attachment to common suppressors in the market. #NoQuarter #Parabellum" |
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Posted: 12/2/2020 12:16:36 AM EDT
[#41]
Would the xeno brake and xeno flash hider need to be timed?
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Posted: 12/2/2020 12:29:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh.. That was kind of my suspicion, but I'd agree, in my opinion: Taper behind thread => not a real problem Mount or muzzle device coming off with a tight/hot can => a real problem One of the nice attributes of a taper behind a thread is that it gives you a reason to have a diameter larger than the thread that can possibly protect the thread from damage during handling of the rifle. It won’t prevent everything but it is a surface taller than the thread in close proximity to the thread so it can protect the thread. The taper gas seals anyway so there isn’t communication of gas into the threads because there isn’t a pathway for the gas to move. We found that nitriding 17-4 stainless provided resistance to galling so it counters that issue. 17-4 doesn’t rust and it has very high errosive wear resistance. 4140 with nitride will have corrosion resistance too, but might flash scale around 1100f. Thats a point at which nitride can become rust. 4140 is less expensive and can be machined at higher rated speeds 110 vs 75sfm for 17-4 and has better machinability rating 66% vs 45% so 17-4 muzzle devices will cost more to make by about 30-40% of manufacturing time and labor + material cost difference. 4140 is recommended for use below 482f, and 17-4 for full time service to 900f. Obviously those can be exceeded but they give you a basis for comparison. I feel like 17-4 is probably good for cyclical short term use to 1200f so 4140 is probably good for short term to 680 or so comparably. That isn’t to imply you can’t use both hotter, but rather what metal people would call recommended use temperatures. |
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Posted: 12/2/2020 8:38:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Will this work on the Wolfman?
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Posted: 12/2/2020 9:20:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Will this work on the Wolfman? DA mentioned on Instagram it will fit the Wolfman once they make the Wolfman compatible with Omega type mounts. |
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Posted: 12/3/2020 6:36:35 PM EDT
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https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/dead-air-armament/accessories/mounts-and-pistons/dead-air-xeno-adapter/
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Posted: 12/3/2020 6:45:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/3/2020 8:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/dead-air-armament/accessories/mounts-and-pistons/dead-air-xeno-adapter/ Thanks. Ordered. |
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Posted: 12/3/2020 11:17:09 PM EDT
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Does anyone have ANY info on the Xeno Brake design and/or release date?
Capitol Armory has the flash hider in stock now... But I'm tempted on waiting for the brake. Don't know what to do. https://www.capitolarmory.com/dead-air-xeno-flash-hider-muzzle-device.html |
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Posted: 12/4/2020 7:32:55 AM EDT
[#49]
I am also curious about the brake.
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Posted: 12/4/2020 9:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Nomad has been out of jail for about a month and I've been debating which mounting system to go with. This is just what the doctor ordered. Now where do I buy? I just got a nomad in jail and saw this come out, it will definitely be my go to mounting option. Hoping to see a brake option follow. |
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