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Posted: 1/29/2020 10:49:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is awesome.
Happy to see it announced. I bet this thing will be absolutely killer with .300 BLK subsonic (and pretty damn good on 5.56/.308 etc). |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:01:09 AM EDT
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Capitol Armory has them and much cheaper than SS Did anyone see if SS had them and is already sold out? Their site says backordered. |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:20:55 AM EDT
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Showing back ordered for me on silencer shop.
But that’s OK because now I’m rethinking my plan of putting this on a 16 inch ar 8.39 plus keymo is like 10” But if indeed max suppression then I guess the weight/length penalty is fine |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:25:57 AM EDT
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@mageever now how about that Nomad 338...  |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:47:48 AM EDT
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Same price as SS. $875. Did anyone see if SS had them and is already sold out? Their site says backordered. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Capitol Armory has them and much cheaper than SS Did anyone see if SS had them and is already sold out? Their site says backordered. ETA: I just went back and looked and now that the status has changed from in stock to backorder the price is ~$200 less than what it was 
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:49:41 AM EDT
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I like. I am awfully happy w/ my Nomad, though. Still, might have to pick one up.
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Nice. I'm not sure I'm a buyer now though, since I've got an approved Full Nelson. I'd be more tempted with a .338 bore option.
It would be nice companion to my Sandman K/AR hosts. |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:21:11 PM EDT
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And the real nomax will be 338?
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:37:00 PM EDT
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We have them in stock now!
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Posted: 1/29/2020 12:56:44 PM EDT
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And the real nomax will be 338? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 1:38:47 PM EDT
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And the real nomax will be 338? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 1:39:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow do the Nomad L and EA Lux compare sound wise?
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Posted: 1/29/2020 1:42:14 PM EDT
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Capitol Armory has them and much cheaper than SS https://www.capitolarmory.com/dead-air-nomad-l-30-caliber-suppressor.html Quoted:
Showing back ordered for me on silencer shop. But that’s OK because now I’m rethinking my plan of putting this on a 16 inch ar 8.39 plus keymo is like 10” But if indeed max suppression then I guess the weight/length penalty is fine |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:34:14 PM EDT
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Yeah I posted on the NFA subreddit 2 days ago like an idiot and it sparked a bit of interest. Thankfully silencershop dmed me and let me know that they were magically released. I went and checked the website and I was like "no way is that gonna happen at full MSRP". I refreshed it 30 min after the release and they had dropped the price and I snagged the last one. Definitely an impulse buy and not sure if I really want it yet but whatever I guess. I think I just built up enough anticipation from following this thread that I convinced myself I wanted it
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:36:56 PM EDT
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Also should we rename the thread to "Nomad-L" in case the NomaX actually comes out as a big bore can? For the sake of future thread users?
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:42:18 PM EDT
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How do the Nomad L and EA Lux compare sound wise? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:44:19 PM EDT
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Also should we rename the thread to "Nomad-L" in case the NomaX actually comes out as a big bore can? For the sake of future thread users? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 3:04:59 PM EDT
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No idea, I don't have a Nomad-L demo. |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 3:09:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is when one of you sneaky buggers slides into Hanson Bros' DMs and says "You can shoot my can while it's still on your Form 3 for a wittle bitty discount or a cheap KeyMo adapter." 
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:18:00 PM EDT
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And the real nomax will be 338? 
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:34:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yours will be more like 438. I know you.  
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:35:59 PM EDT
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Yours will be more like 438. I know you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the real nomax will be 338? 
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:42:35 PM EDT
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Showing back ordered for me on silencer shop. But that’s OK because now I’m rethinking my plan of putting this on a 16 inch ar 8.39 plus keymo is like 10” But if indeed max suppression then I guess the weight/length penalty is fine Quote HistoryQuoted:
Showing back ordered for me on silencer shop. But that’s OK because now I’m rethinking my plan of putting this on a 16 inch ar 8.39 plus keymo is like 10” But if indeed max suppression then I guess the weight/length penalty is fine Quoted:
SS wanted more than $875? Damn Holy moly! No way I’d opt for that |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:58:36 PM EDT
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My local dealer tried to order one for me today and couldnt find one in stock from his usual sources so he backordered one. That source shows the Nomad L as "coming soon". Do dealers like Hansohn and Capitol Armory actually have them in their hands or do they just have serial numbers?
Todd, any clue if more will be hitting other dealers soon or did all the first batch get sold to just a hand full of dealers? |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 7:02:45 PM EDT
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avg numbers for a 16" AR?
apologies If I missed it, skimmed back and didn't see anything showing numbers for 5.56 |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 7:56:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yours will be more like 438. I know you. |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 8:28:08 PM EDT
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I noticed you changed the rating verbiage on the Nomad 30 product page to match that of the Nomad L. Good move, I have seen a few posts on Reddit where folks were confused by the Key-Mo's .300 Win Mag limit being included on the Nomad product page along side the .300 RUM and Norma rating.
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Posted: 1/29/2020 10:50:29 PM EDT
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SS wanted more than $875? Damn Holy moly! No way I’d opt for that Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Capitol Armory has them and much cheaper than SS https://www.capitolarmory.com/dead-air-nomad-l-30-caliber-suppressor.html Quoted:
Showing back ordered for me on silencer shop. But that’s OK because now I’m rethinking my plan of putting this on a 16 inch ar 8.39 plus keymo is like 10” But if indeed max suppression then I guess the weight/length penalty is fine thinking the nomad-L would be cool since I am shooting more under NODs now and try to respect my neighbors. and its supposed to be the quietest. In for the videos to start popping up! |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:06:37 PM EDT
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I picked mine up for my 6.5 Grendel SBR. That thing is loud as shit. This could be a game changer.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 7:47:33 AM EDT
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I picked mine up for my 6.5 Grendel SBR. That thing is loud as shit. This could be a game changer. The Nomad-L is heavy compared to other 8" suppressors that won't be available for many more months that would offer comparable suppression. I can deal with the weight since it will spend a good amount of time in a tree stand and by purchasing it now then there's a good chance of getting by hunting season next year. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 8:49:42 AM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 9:08:07 AM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person. I don’t think it’s anything groundbreaking, but I think we can expect it to be a reliable can with excellent sound suppression. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 10:57:31 AM EDT
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I've been researching QD systems for suppressors since I've bought a couple in the last 30 days (Resonator R2 and Nomad-L) and have been looking at the Area 419 system for moving them around on different rifles.
The Resonator R2 has an inconel blast baffle but the Nomad-L does not, do I need to have a sacrificial muzzle brake for the Nomad-L or is it durable enough to not need one (area 419 doesn't use a sacrificial brake). |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:11:09 AM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:41:47 AM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Start halfway down on Page 1. 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:32:57 PM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 2:51:55 PM EDT
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Part of the magic of the Nomad-L is that it has a baffle stack that loves a good bump in pressure. It works exceptionally well with 300BLK, but as the pressure goes up it gets more and more efficient. It really shines with magnum stuff.
Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 2:59:24 PM EDT
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Part of the magic of the Nomad-L is that it has a baffle stack that loves a good bump in pressure. It works exceptionally well with 300BLK, but as the pressure goes up it gets more and more efficient. It really shines with magnum stuff. Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 3:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any metering out yet? Checked yesterday and couldn't find any info on your site. Basically just want to know how it objectively compares to the regular Nomad 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 3:44:42 PM EDT
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that. So assuming the prototype Nomad L used in that testing is the same as the production model it beats the regular Nomad by ~ 10 dB on 300 blackout subs. That's really impressive. It even beats the full nelson by 1-2 dBs
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:04:51 PM EDT
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person. The Nomad-L is for everyone else. Guess which one will sell more. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:24:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They built the Nomad cause the internets told them not to chase dBs. The Nomad-L is for everyone else. Guess which one will sell more. Not saying the Nomad L is bad but by judging when i go to my LGS and seeing the cans on display that are waiting for paperwork the trend is shorter cans. They sell more trash pandas than thunder chickens, more Sandman S than L, etc. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:04:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Ill say the Nomad since the Nomad L will be over 9 inches long with a keymo mount, and even DT its over 8 inches long. Not saying the Nomad L is bad but by judging when i go to my LGS and seeing the cans on display that are waiting for paperwork the trend is shorter cans. They sell more trash pandas than thunder chickens, more Sandman S than L, etc. I probably see 4-5 Ultra 7s at the range for every Ultra 9 I see. Along the same lines, I'm sure it's not an accident that TBAC started the Dominus line with two <7" cans even though longer versions are bound to follow. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:25:31 PM EDT
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^^ That's also six-month-old data of an R&D unit, not the unit that went into production. I've already seen Mikeith from Dead Air say today that the Nomad-L was further refined and improved after that range day. Of course Mageever can shed light on all of this.
Personally, for my 12.5" 6.5 Grendel hunting SBR, the Nomad-L represents peak performance. I cannot wait to get mine. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:53:19 PM EDT
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I picked mine up for my 6.5 Grendel SBR. That thing is loud as shit. This could be a game changer. The Nomad L beat the Omega by 10db on .308, so if it's close to that much better on 5.56 and 6.5g then it's worth the extra size and weight to me. Wish we had comparison data on those rounds. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 8:57:35 PM EDT
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I've been researching QD systems for suppressors since I've bought a couple in the last 30 days (Resonator R2 and Nomad-L) and have been looking at the Area 419 system for moving them around on different rifles. The Resonator R2 has an inconel blast baffle but the Nomad-L does not, do I need to have a sacrificial muzzle brake for the Nomad-L or is it durable enough to not need one (area 419 doesn't use a sacrificial brake). |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:12:38 PM EDT
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They built the Nomad cause the internets told them not to chase dBs. The Nomad-L is for everyone else. Guess which one will sell more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain me the hype behind this can? Cause I've heard the original Nomad in person. The Nomad-L is for everyone else. Guess which one will sell more. I dont chase DBs and the OG sounded fine to me. IDK
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:43:17 PM EDT
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Nomad L is in the house. Shooting it this weekend.
Still no meter, but I have a three mic system I may use to record audio. Not sure if it will be useful to anyone. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 1:14:38 AM EDT
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that. So assuming the prototype Nomad L used in that testing is the same as the production model it beats the regular Nomad by ~ 10 dB on 300 blackout subs. That's really impressive. It even beats the full nelson by 1-2 dBs Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thanks, I hadn't seen that. So assuming the prototype Nomad L used in that testing is the same as the production model it beats the regular Nomad by ~ 10 dB on 300 blackout subs. That's really impressive. It even beats the full nelson by 1-2 dBs 300BLK: Nomad-30: 122.9 - 126.7 dB Depending on config (direct thread or Keymo). Omega 300: 124.8 (note that the first two shots were over 130 dB and so the meter was pegged and they didn't factor them in) Nomax: 120.5 dB Full Nelson: 120.0 dB .308 16" Barrel: Nomax: 131.9 dB Omega 300: 141.8 dB YHM Resonator: 138.1 Quoted: They built the Nomad cause the internets told them not to chase dBs. The Nomad-L is for everyone else. Guess which one will sell more. To answer your question, though, the Nomad will definitely sell the most because it's a bit of a Goldilocks suppressor. It's a great package for size, weight, performance, and versatility. But for people that want some extreme suppression, the Nomad-L is there for you. I see this as that ultimate can for applications like Mr. @Dillhole is talking about. I love the idea of this being on shorty bolt action--especially with rumpety cartridges. Quoted:
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I've been researching QD systems for suppressors since I've bought a couple in the last 30 days (Resonator R2 and Nomad-L) and have been looking at the Area 419 system for moving them around on different rifles. The Resonator R2 has an inconel blast baffle but the Nomad-L does not, do I need to have a sacrificial muzzle brake for the Nomad-L or is it durable enough to not need one (area 419 doesn't use a sacrificial brake). Also, blast chamber has been increased a bit and the tool features on the back have been beefed up. @ThisWildAdventure -- this should answer your question. I do recommend a brake as a sacrificial baffle as rule. Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 5:56:18 AM EDT
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That implies we built the Nomad with no regard for sound performance. That's not really the case. Am I reading you right, or is your dry humor flying over my head as usual? It also implies there is a segment that values DB reduction over size and weight. You now have cans that meet the needs of both markets. No surprise since you have various lengths of the Sandman. Don’t overthink it. Yes there was some humor at the "I do not chase DB crowd".
ETA and in before some asks about a Nomad-K or Nomad-S. |
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