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I bought a wolfman from SS 2 months ago. still awaiting assignment.
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SS just told me another 4 to 6 weeks for the wolfman, said deadair switched to a new larger facility :(
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SS just told me another 4 to 6 weeks for the wolfman, said deadair switched to a new larger facility :( View Quote My LGS use to only have Sico but added Dead Air last year and has been trying to get some Wolfman in. |
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Also interesting with the wipe there was increased at ear dB in short mode (as I’d expect with a wipe holding pressure in the can longer), but was quieter at ear with a wipe in long mode. All the at ear were close enough that short mode wipeless makes sense for the shooter.
I wonder how an MP5 or CMMG radially delayed blowback host would differ? I assume the Noveske Space invader is straight blowback. |
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You guys are like a bunch of women working in a hair salon.
--As stated, no personnel changes here at Dead Air. Rod did just move on in customer service, but that was for a better opportunity for him. He'll be sorely missed. --Yes, we moved manufacturing facilities. The process involved integrating ourselves into a new manufacturing partner, moving machines, adding new machines, and creating new processes. We're greatly augmenting our ability to meet demand and provide the highest quality product possible. --The Space Invader is a blowback operated AR. The fact it can be hearing safe for the shooter is a miracle. The at-ear sound on such a host will always go up as you make the can longer or add a wipe. The gas has to go somewhere. --Never read too much into video reproduction of sound. The audio is usually clipped and it's all leveled out. There are tricks for gauging loudness, though. Like listening for the clipping effect and sound reflection in the environment. When it clips, it totally goes quiet or it mutes everything. When you can hear planes flying over as they shoot and it doesn't clip that sound, you know it was pretty quiet. Also, if you can hear brass tinkling or trigger resets is another pointer. In this case, they did about as good you can with the varying recording bits they had from different days in different settings. --Wolfman suppressors are in production now and will be shipping very soon. I can't say beyond that without blowing relationships with wholesalers and the operations guys, so do me a favor and don't ask. Note that just because they ship, you may not be the first to get one. We started our move with a back order, but this next batch will completely resolve that. Thanks for everyone's patience there! Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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Any eta on 5/8” micro brakes? I’ve been on Hansohns wait list for them since day 1 and no word yet.
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You guys are like a bunch of women working in a hair salon. --As stated, no personnel changes here at Dead Air. Rod did just move on in customer service, but that was for a better opportunity for him. He'll be sorely missed. --Yes, we moved manufacturing facilities. The process involved integrating ourselves into a new manufacturing partner, moving machines, adding new machines, and creating new processes. We're greatly augmenting our ability to meet demand and provide the highest quality product possible. --The Space Invader is a blowback operated AR. The fact it can be hearing safe for the shooter is a miracle. The at-ear sound on such a host will always go up as you make the can longer or add a wipe. The gas has to go somewhere. --Never read too much into video reproduction of sound. The audio is usually clipped and it's all leveled out. There are tricks for gauging loudness, though. Like listening for the clipping effect and sound reflection in the environment. When it clips, it totally goes quiet or it mutes everything. When you can hear planes flying over as they shoot and it doesn't clip that sound, you know it was pretty quiet. Also, if you can hear brass tinkling or trigger resets is another pointer. In this case, they did about as good you can with the varying recording bits they had from different days in different settings. --Wolfman suppressors are in production now and will be shipping very soon. I can't say beyond that without blowing relationships with wholesalers and the operations guys, so do me a favor and don't ask. Note that just because they ship, you may not be the first to get one. We started our move with a back order, but this next batch will completely resolve that. Thanks for everyone's patience there! Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering View Quote |
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Also interesting with the wipe there was increased at ear dB in short mode (as I’d expect with a wipe holding pressure in the can longer), but was quieter at ear with a wipe in long mode. All the at ear were close enough that short mode wipeless makes sense for the shooter. I wonder how an MP5 or CMMG radially delayed blowback host would differ? I assume the Noveske Space invader is straight blowback. View Quote I have both of the above and shoot the wolfman with wipe/long, its so choice. I cant tell the difference with the wipe on the long setup but the wipe is shot out and Ive been too lazy to fix it. On the short version the wipe is basically worthless and you do get more gas/noise. |
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--Wolfman suppressors are in production now and will be shipping very soon. I can't say beyond that without blowing relationships with wholesalers and the operations guys, so do me a favor and don't ask. Note that just because they ship, you may not be the first to get one. We started our move with a back order, but this next batch will completely resolve that. Thanks for everyone's patience there! Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering View Quote Every time I shoot them at the range, people always ask what it is. |
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Have had one on back order since late December.
Disappointed that big online seller has kept changing excuses. Two weeks ago, was told that the Wolfman was shipping and they would have theirs by the next week. Now told that Dear Air is moving, new manufacturing, etc. - with no firm ETA. Lots of potential quality red flags. Don't know if I want to get one of the first off the new line. Then wait a year for the Stamp, only to get stuck with a lemon. Im already expecting to get slammed by those fans who'll tell me DeadAir's quality and service has always been wonderful. I'm sure it is; until it isn't... Maybe need to consider something else instead... |
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Have had one on back order since late December. Disappointed that big online seller has kept changing excuses. Two weeks ago, was told that the Wolfman was shipping and they would have theirs by the next week. Now told that Dear Air is moving, new manufacturing, etc. - with no firm ETA. Lots of potential quality red flags. Don't know if I want to get one of the first off the new line. Then wait a year for the Stamp, only to get stuck with a lemon. Im already expecting to get slammed by those fans who'll tell me DeadAir's quality and service has always been wonderful. I'm sure it is; until it isn't... Maybe need to consider something else instead... View Quote |
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Have had one on back order since late December. Disappointed that big online seller has kept changing excuses. Two weeks ago, was told that the Wolfman was shipping and they would have theirs by the next week. Now told that Dear Air is moving, new manufacturing, etc. - with no firm ETA. Lots of potential quality red flags. Don't know if I want to get one of the first off the new line. Then wait a year for the Stamp, only to get stuck with a lemon. Im already expecting to get slammed by those fans who'll tell me DeadAir's quality and service has always been wonderful. I'm sure it is; until it isn't... Maybe need to consider something else instead... View Quote The wolfman offers more for PCC than anything else on the market or currently coming to market 1) A modular can with more suppression than anything else 2) Short version is a perfect balance of length/weight/suppression 3) offers a wipe for stupid quiet subs 4) works great on 300 blackout and 5.56 Convince me I'm wrong. At most you'll have to wait 4 weeks to get an order in. 4 weeks at the end of 9 months doesn't seem too bad. |
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The wolfman offers more for PCC than anything else on the market or currently coming to market 1) A modular can with more suppression than anything else 2) Short version is a perfect balance of length/weight/suppression 3) offers a wipe for stupid quiet subs 4) works great on 300 blackout and 5.56 Convince me I'm wrong. At most you'll have to wait 4 weeks to get an order in. 4 weeks at the end of 9 months doesn't seem too bad. View Quote |
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Quoted: They switched to a whole new manufacturing plant. Real world things happen to businesses. I see your point about getting one of the first off the new line, but its not like they aren't going to inspect them for QC issues. The wolfman offers more for PCC than anything else on the market or currently coming to market 1) A modular can with more suppression than anything else 2) Short version is a perfect balance of length/weight/suppression 3) offers a wipe for stupid quiet subs 4) works great on 300 blackout and 5.56 Convince me I'm wrong. At most you'll have to wait 4 weeks to get an order in. 4 weeks at the end of 9 months doesn't seem too bad. View Quote |
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Have had one on back order since late December. Disappointed that big online seller has kept changing excuses. Two weeks ago, was told that the Wolfman was shipping and they would have theirs by the next week. Now told that Dear Air is moving, new manufacturing, etc. - with no firm ETA. Lots of potential quality red flags. Don't know if I want to get one of the first off the new line. Then wait a year for the Stamp, only to get stuck with a lemon. Im already expecting to get slammed by those fans who'll tell me DeadAir's quality and service has always been wonderful. I'm sure it is; until it isn't... Maybe need to consider something else instead... View Quote |
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Quoted: I have determined mine is a lemon. Same issues as before. Honestly not happy with it at all. I have tried five different 9mm cans on my various hosts and no issues with them. The issue has to be my wolfman. Hell my serial numbers don’t even line up and that’s supposed to be an indication things are lined up properly View Quote |
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Quoted: I have determined mine is a lemon. Same issues as before. Honestly not happy with it at all. I have tried five different 9mm cans on my various hosts and no issues with them. The issue has to be my wolfman. Hell my serial numbers don’t even line up and that’s supposed to be an indication things are lined up properly View Quote Really sorry this is happening for you, and even more sorry your repair didn’t work out. |
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Quoted: Not going to try and convince you that you're wrong, but I don't see it being any better than the Omega 36m with a PCC, and I'd argue that the Omega is even more versatile with not needing a proprietary brake/mount to shoot high pressure rifle rounds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Not going to try and convince you that you're wrong, but I don't see it being any better than the Omega 36m with a PCC, and I'd argue that the Omega is even more versatile with not needing a proprietary brake/mount to shoot high pressure rifle rounds. The 36m is overbored which is great for shooting 338 lapua, but probably doesn't translate too well to 9mm and even worse to 5.56. Shooting magnum rifle rounds and 9mm out of the same suppressor doesn't interest me, but I can see the appeal. I see your point about the mount, but you're still going to need to buy a brake for each gun or separate 5/8x24 mount if you want to direct thread onto most 30 caliber guns. The keymo system is proven and probably the most reliable QD system on the market. It does add significant length and weight. I don't use it, but I may down the road if I decide to use my wolfman on 5.56 etc I'll be awaiting the side by side comparison for the 36m and the wolfman. I have a gut feeling the 9mm PCC performance will be a let down. Quoted: I have determined mine is a lemon. Same issues as before. Honestly not happy with it at all. I have tried five different 9mm cans on my various hosts and no issues with them. The issue has to be my wolfman. Hell my serial numbers don’t even line up and that’s supposed to be an indication things are lined up properly |
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Well I hadn't really researched the Omega 36m because it didn't interest me after getting the Wolf. But comparing the two, the wolfman has greater diameter and no outer tube to inflate said diameter and weighs 2 ounces less. The 36m is overbored which is great for shooting 338 lapua, but probably doesn't translate too well to 9mm and even worse to 5.56. Shooting magnum rifle rounds and 9mm out of the same suppressor doesn't interest me, but I can see the appeal. I see your point about the mount, but you're still going to need to buy a brake for each gun or separate 5/8x24 mount if you want to direct thread onto most 30 caliber guns. The keymo system is proven and probably the most reliable QD system on the market. It does add significant length and weight. I don't use it, but I may down the road if I decide to use my wolfman on 5.56 etc I'll be awaiting the side by side comparison for the 36m and the wolfman. I have a gut feeling the 9mm PCC performance will be a let down. What issues are you having again? I think I remember you posting something, but I forgot View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Not going to try and convince you that you're wrong, but I don't see it being any better than the Omega 36m with a PCC, and I'd argue that the Omega is even more versatile with not needing a proprietary brake/mount to shoot high pressure rifle rounds. The 36m is overbored which is great for shooting 338 lapua, but probably doesn't translate too well to 9mm and even worse to 5.56. Shooting magnum rifle rounds and 9mm out of the same suppressor doesn't interest me, but I can see the appeal. I see your point about the mount, but you're still going to need to buy a brake for each gun or separate 5/8x24 mount if you want to direct thread onto most 30 caliber guns. The keymo system is proven and probably the most reliable QD system on the market. It does add significant length and weight. I don't use it, but I may down the road if I decide to use my wolfman on 5.56 etc I'll be awaiting the side by side comparison for the 36m and the wolfman. I have a gut feeling the 9mm PCC performance will be a let down. Quoted: I have determined mine is a lemon. Same issues as before. Honestly not happy with it at all. I have tried five different 9mm cans on my various hosts and no issues with them. The issue has to be my wolfman. Hell my serial numbers don’t even line up and that’s supposed to be an indication things are lined up properly Always looks like this. Attached File |
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Alignment issues. Every 9mm barrel I screw it on always leans to the same side with an alignment rod. I put a mark on my can so I can tell where it’s at. Every barrel always leans to that side. Use the same barrels and rods with other cans and it’s perfectly centered. Dead air took 8 weeks to look at it and say “it’s within our spec” then sent it back. I’m really not happy with this can. Always looks like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/DD68F2A5-4D12-499F-A7AE-E52767CA162E_jpe-1275284.JPG View Quote |
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I just got my Wolfman, pretty excited
91 days from check cashing to approval (individual). Check cashed 11/13 However, I am disappointed I can’t find a 3 lug mount after searching for about two months. I was initially told Feb, now March. Anyone have an ETA on these? |
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Alignment issues. Every 9mm barrel I screw it on always leans to the same side with an alignment rod. I put a mark on my can so I can tell where it’s at. Every barrel always leans to that side. Use the same barrels and rods with other cans and it’s perfectly centered. Dead air took 8 weeks to look at it and say “it’s within our spec” then sent it back. I’m really not happy with this can. Always looks like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/DD68F2A5-4D12-499F-A7AE-E52767CA162E_jpe-1275284.JPG |
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Not that I know of. Two hosts I can’t use because it actually rubs the endcap. I had an endcap strike so I bought a rod to start checking. Then I realized I had an issue with the can. View Quote If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to ******** **** for a full refund (in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. |
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Not that I know of. Two hosts I can’t use because it actually rubs the endcap. I had an endcap strike so I bought a rod to start checking. Then I realized I had an issue with the can. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Barrel-Threading-sale-50-PTR-91-Aug-Scar-Sig-MPX-Beretta-21A-FAL-PAPM92-Pin-and-Welds/143-1029861/&page=64&anc=5624216#i5624216 |
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Does this apply: If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to ******** **** for a full refund (in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not that I know of. Two hosts I can’t use because it actually rubs the endcap. I had an endcap strike so I bought a rod to start checking. Then I realized I had an issue with the can. If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to ******** **** for a full refund (in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. |
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Alignment issues. Every 9mm barrel I screw it on always leans to the same side with an alignment rod. I put a mark on my can so I can tell where it’s at. Every barrel always leans to that side. Use the same barrels and rods with other cans and it’s perfectly centered. Dead air took 8 weeks to look at it and say “it’s within our spec” then sent it back. I’m really not happy with this can. Always looks like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/DD68F2A5-4D12-499F-A7AE-E52767CA162E_jpe-1275284.JPG View Quote @Mageever |
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That's unfortunate. Definitely a mark against Dead Air. Maybe they don't know how to make it right if the issue is at the mounting interface where it's serialized, which might be even worse. I'd be pissed about the whole 8 weeks thing too, considering they didn't do Jack and you already had an end cap strike. It would be another thing entirely if it took them 8 weeks and they fixed it. I guess end cap strikes are within spec? @Mageever View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Alignment issues. Every 9mm barrel I screw it on always leans to the same side with an alignment rod. I put a mark on my can so I can tell where it’s at. Every barrel always leans to that side. Use the same barrels and rods with other cans and it’s perfectly centered. Dead air took 8 weeks to look at it and say “it’s within our spec” then sent it back. I’m really not happy with this can. Always looks like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/DD68F2A5-4D12-499F-A7AE-E52767CA162E_jpe-1275284.JPG @Mageever |
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Todd said he looked at it himself when he was in GA. Said it was within spec. Funny thing is they even sent it back with my struck endcap. Did not even replace that. View Quote Hopefully this is not the new dead air customer service we can come to expect. |
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Damn. I would really love to hear his explanation and side of the story.. something seems off. Almost like they were pissed off at you and telling you to kick rocks. Hopefully this is not the new dead air customer service we can come to expect. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Todd said he looked at it himself when he was in GA. Said it was within spec. Funny thing is they even sent it back with my struck endcap. Did not even replace that. Hopefully this is not the new dead air customer service we can come to expect. I got a lemon and that’s what I get I guess. |
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All of this took place during their manufacturing switching around so everyone was all over the place. Todd and Rod were good to talk to. I was very nice whole time and they were nice as well. Maybe Todd could get on here and explain something’s but I don’t know what else could be said honestly. I got a lemon and that’s what I get I guess. View Quote I thought it was #NoQuarter? |
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Dead Air sent it back WITH the striked endcap? That's messed up!
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They are in my original thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Had-my-first-endcap-strike-Dead-air-wolfman-UPDATE-/20-504472/
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They are in my original thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Had-my-first-endcap-strike-Dead-air-wolfman-UPDATE-/20-504472/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
They are in my original thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Had-my-first-endcap-strike-Dead-air-wolfman-UPDATE-/20-504472/ “there was a deformation in one of the baffles so we are replacing them. we are out of blast baffles but should have them first of the week. we will get that can rebuilt out to you like brand new” |
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They are in my original thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Had-my-first-endcap-strike-Dead-air-wolfman-UPDATE-/20-504472/ “there was a deformation in one of the baffles so we are replacing them. we are out of blast baffles but should have them first of the week. we will get that can rebuilt out to you like brand new” |
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They are in my original thread https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Had-my-first-endcap-strike-Dead-air-wolfman-UPDATE-/20-504472/ “there was a deformation in one of the baffles so we are replacing them. we are out of blast baffles but should have them first of the week. we will get that can rebuilt out to you like brand new” Maybe Todd can get on here and explain it. But I’m not happy with this can. Kinda sucks |
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Send the can to http://class3machining.com/, Morgan is active here and has a fool proof way to check it in a lathe.
He found two mounts and one can that were bad just recently. |
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Just pulled it out of the safe to check with some 556 guns.
Here is my wolfman on 556 AR with keymicro brake. Attached File Same rifle and brake with sandman S Attached File Even tired it with a flash hider with same results Attached File Geissele rod Attached File |
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@1911XDM, with the direct line of contact with me I wish you would've contacted me directly with your dissatisfaction.
Now that you've made this public, let's get it out there for everyone. I'm in the middle of flying back and forth ramping up a new manufacturing facility and got directly involved with your CS issue because I wanted to get you take care of. Here's what I found:
Thanks, Todd Magee Dead Air Engineering |
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