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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:13:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:27:55 PM EDT
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I've got one coming. But I plan to use it on my 607 clone when I get around to actually finishing that...
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:31:08 PM EDT
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I really liked it on my 6.5cm.
I know several guys in the PRS world who are running them on their rifles. I just bought one today for myself. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:03:10 PM EDT
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Mine is still in jail. All I can offer is this: prior to the purchase I had some questions and sent an email to Dead Air. I got a phone call back from a real live human being who actually could answer some technical questions about their suppressors. We talked about various Sandmans for a bit and he answered all my questions. The last thing he said to me was "you are going to absolutely LOVE the K." This was an unsolicited remark. So, take that for what it is worth.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:16:51 PM EDT
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Can any of them be approved yet? The were just released on 6/15.
I doubt mines approved this year. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:24:32 PM EDT
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Can any of them be approved yet? The were just released on 6/15. I doubt mines approved this year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 9:00:03 AM EDT
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I realize that. I'm looking for why you purchased, or why you did not purchase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can any of them be approved yet? The were just released on 6/15. I doubt mines approved this year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 10:00:12 AM EDT
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I realize that. I'm looking for why you purchased, or why you did not purchase. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 10:08:01 AM EDT
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I realize that. I'm looking for why you purchased, or why you did not purchase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can any of them be approved yet? The were just released on 6/15. I doubt mines approved this year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 10:57:17 AM EDT
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I realize that. I'm looking for why you purchased, or why you did not purchase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can any of them be approved yet? The were just released on 6/15. I doubt mines approved this year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 11:52:25 AM EDT
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I like the Sandman-K for SBRs that are more geared towards "work" guns. Not necessarily saying it's for guys kicking in doors and jumping out of helicopters, but it's a can for use rather than to show off at the range.
Some cans that sound great and are big and heavy are fine range toys, but in and out of vehicles or in confined spaces--- I want something small. If it's louder, so be it. I would rather take tiny and louder over long and quiet. It kills concussion from tiny 5.56 SBRs and brings it to a more non-teeth-rattling dB level. Another great use is training classes where you still have to wear ear pro, but want a little less concussion (shooting 1000+ rounds in a day of 5.56 even with ear pro gets real old.) |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 4:35:19 PM EDT
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If I was invested in Keymo (but instead have both Rugged 7.62 cans) I'd have jumped on one from the get go. I'm already waiting on a Saker ASR K so it's all kind of up in the air since I'd probably use them for the same purpose (short/durable can for SBR) Had I known the Sandman K was planned I would have likely picked up the Sandman S/L instead of the Razor/Surge.
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Posted: 9/7/2017 5:09:06 PM EDT
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I just bought one, should start my Form 4 here soon. I bought it because I already have a Sandman S so I'm already set up for it on several rifles. I wanted a shorter and lighter option for when I'm carrying my gun more than shooting it. I plan on it performing hunting and bedside duty. Eventually I'll likely pick up an L too just to round out the collection.
ETA: If you're set up for a military discount, DSG Arms has them at a VERY reasonable price. I absolutely couldn't pass it up. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 5:33:05 PM EDT
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My suggestion - BUY ONE! They are reasonably inexpensive compared to other quality short rifle silencers. My only current rifle can is an AAC 762SDN6 that I've had since early 2015 and it stays primarily parked on a BCM 11.5" SBR (5.56mm). Honestly the AAC is old technology when compared to most of the popular options today from different manufactures and I wanted a short 30 cal/5.56mm can for more flexibility. I ordered mine mid July but unfortunately it hasn't even arrived at the FFL yet.....so its going to be awhile. Goodluck.
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Posted: 9/7/2017 5:46:20 PM EDT
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For a short, hard use silencer, the Sandman-K is practically impossible to beat at this price-point!
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Posted: 9/8/2017 7:47:34 AM EDT
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Ok y'all convinced me. I couldn't resist any longer!
@doty-soty yea I saw that which was the sole reason I started to consider the K. Pretty damn good deal! |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 6:39:31 PM EDT
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I have considered it for my work AR (10.3 sbr). Also fun for the Honey Badger. Would keep it short with less bite. Still wakt a full L can too ( I have the S and love it)
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:22:44 PM EDT
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I was thinking today that this has to have guys like Rugged in a frenzy. Shorter than a razor, $150(?) cheaper, and arguably a better mount.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 8:32:01 PM EDT
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I like the Sandman-K for SBRs that are more geared towards "work" guns. Not necessarily saying it's for guys kicking in doors and jumping out of helicopters, but it's a can for use rather than to show off at the range. Some cans that sound great and are big and heavy are fine range toys, but in and out of vehicles or in confined spaces--- I want something small. If it's louder, so be it. I would rather take tiny and louder over long and quiet. It kills concussion from tiny 5.56 SBRs and brings it to a more non-teeth-rattling dB level. Another great use is training classes where you still have to wear ear pro, but want a little less concussion (shooting 1000+ rounds in a day of 5.56 even with ear pro gets real old.) |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 12:30:38 AM EDT
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For a short, hard use silencer, the Sandman-K is practically impossible to beat at this price-point! Is there a better choice? |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:55:10 AM EDT
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What about for a hunting rifle? I'm looking for my first suppressor and on paper, the K looks ideal: short (this is a big deal to me. Hard enough to get a rifle out of the truck quickly without it being 4 feet long), light, reasonably priced. Not looking for the quietest, just something to take the edge off. Is there a better choice? If size is your top priority it might be best for you though. I don't know of any 7.62 can that's shorter. If you just need 5.56 there's probably other options. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:29:57 AM EDT
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What about for a hunting rifle? I'm looking for my first suppressor and on paper, the K looks ideal: short (this is a big deal to me. Hard enough to get a rifle out of the truck quickly without it being 4 feet long), light, reasonably priced. Not looking for the quietest, just something to take the edge off. Is there a better choice? A minimal reduction is better than no reduction. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:18:02 AM EDT
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I was thinking today that this has to have guys like Rugged in a frenzy. Shorter than a razor, $150(?) cheaper, and arguably a better mount. |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 4:48:45 PM EDT
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What about for a hunting rifle? I'm looking for my first suppressor and on paper, the K looks ideal: short (this is a big deal to me. Hard enough to get a rifle out of the truck quickly without it being 4 feet long), light, reasonably priced. Not looking for the quietest, just something to take the edge off. Is there a better choice? |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 8:17:40 PM EDT
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What about for a hunting rifle? I'm looking for my first suppressor and on paper, the K looks ideal: short (this is a big deal to me. Hard enough to get a rifle out of the truck quickly without it being 4 feet long), light, reasonably priced. Not looking for the quietest, just something to take the edge off. Is there a better choice? |
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Posted: 9/22/2017 9:44:11 PM EDT
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On Dead Airs Facebook and Instagram a video is posted shooting the K and S on several of the same hosts. 11.5/16/AK
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Posted: 9/30/2017 12:27:56 PM EDT
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FINALLY! Someone posted sound data for the Sandman-K. In this case, Capital Armory.
I think I'm gonna get one, not nearly as loud as I expected. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 1:13:47 PM EDT
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FINALLY! Someone posted sound data for the Sandman-K. In this case, Capital Armory. https://i.imgur.com/x8dOsHb.png https://i.imgur.com/qHnrOaa.png https://i.imgur.com/qFG5qKR.png I think I'm gonna get one, not nearly as loud as I expected. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 1:19:55 PM EDT
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Something to think about is SiCo's Omega. With the direct thread adapter it's only about .6" longer than the Sandman K and close to the same weight, but a bit quieter |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 1:25:28 PM EDT
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It's a great can and price but I'll probably just impulse buy a 22 can next if I don't see a good DA promo for day after thanksgiving
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Posted: 9/30/2017 3:01:40 PM EDT
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Finally someone tested it. Damn, that is a LOT louder than a Sandman S. I was thinking about maybe putting one on my 14.5" AR just for fun, but not at that decibel level. Silencer Shop has a video testing the AAC Mini-4 and they got a 141.8 avg. MAC got 143. Seems to be at least on par with that. I couldn't find any videos testing the Surefire SOCOM 556-Mini, but I bet it would be even louder. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 3:29:19 PM EDT
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FINALLY! Someone posted sound data for the Sandman-K. In this case, Capital Armory. https://i.imgur.com/x8dOsHb.png https://i.imgur.com/qHnrOaa.png https://i.imgur.com/qFG5qKR.png I think I'm gonna get one, not nearly as loud as I expected. ETA: just saw the 556 numbers are on a 16" gun. Would like to have seen on an SBR and the 308 on a semi instead of a bolt gun |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 4:26:06 PM EDT
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Don't forget that the Sandman-K sits back over the muzzle device. By the time you add the direct thread mount to the Omega, it's probably a few inches longer than the Sandman-K once mounted. It'll definitely be quieter, but that's not the purpose of this exercise. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 4:37:26 PM EDT
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The 308 numbers are none too impressive, but 5.56 is better than I was expecting. 4.5db louder than the S. Silencer Shop has a video testing the AAC Mini-4 and they got a 141.8 avg. MAC got 143. Seems to be at least on par with that. I couldn't find any videos testing the Surefire SOCOM 556-Mini, but I bet it would be even louder. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally someone tested it. Damn, that is a LOT louder than a Sandman S. I was thinking about maybe putting one on my 14.5" AR just for fun, but not at that decibel level. Silencer Shop has a video testing the AAC Mini-4 and they got a 141.8 avg. MAC got 143. Seems to be at least on par with that. I couldn't find any videos testing the Surefire SOCOM 556-Mini, but I bet it would be even louder. Any at-the-ear numbers on the Sandman K on a 16" AR-15? |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 4:38:34 PM EDT
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If I was invested in Keymo (but instead have both Rugged 7.62 cans) I'd have jumped on one from the get go. I'm already waiting on a Saker ASR K so it's all kind of up in the air since I'd probably use them for the same purpose (short/durable can for SBR) Had I known the Sandman K was planned I would have likely picked up the Sandman S/L instead of the Razor/Surge. I have a lot of rounds on that 14.5 inch SBR and I've never cleaned the mount. Never had to. Although that will probably jimx me now that have written this  Dead Air Key-Mod |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 4:40:36 PM EDT
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The Sadmsn S is louder. But it's shorter and it is a purpose-built can for a working gun that needs a short suppressor. Or, if the end-user values and short suppressor over longer one, then this is the can for you. It has all of that dead air goodness and quality in a shorter smaller package.
If it's going to be used on a 556, I wonder if there is a 556 in cap available for it? If there is, that should quiet it down a little bit on an AR-15 556 rifle |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 4:46:23 PM EDT
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The Sadmsn S is louder. But it's shorter and it is a purpose-built can for a working gun that needs a short suppressor. Or, if the end-user values and short suppressor over longer one, then this is the can for you. It has all of that dead air goodness and quality in a shorter smaller package. If it's going to be used on a 556, I wonder if there is a 556 in cap available for it? If there is, that should quiet it down a little bit on an AR-15 556 rifle I disagree that someone can't have a can that's both quiet and short. But short, QD, and over-bore will not make a quiet silencer. Talking about 0.6" OAL on a rifle silencer is basically imperceptible from the shooter's viewpoint. |
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Posted: 9/30/2017 11:47:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2017 11:53:58 PM EDT
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Would a Sandman K tame this down a hair? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/70686/20170930_224520-321939.JPG It would take it a lot, but still entertainingly loud. Lol |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:07:50 AM EDT
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What is that? A 12.5" 308? It would take it a lot, but still entertainingly loud. Lol |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:13:52 AM EDT
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My buddy's mega 762 12.5" with Sandman S is still a monster |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:22:55 AM EDT
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What is that? A 12.5" 308? It would take it a lot, but still entertainingly loud. Lol |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:43:28 AM EDT
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Would a Sandman K tame this down a hair? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/70686/20170930_224520-321939.JPG The gas volume on a 12.5" .308 would benefit greatly from any additional volume in the silencer...but I have a feeling "quiet" isn't your main objective with that gun. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:45:39 AM EDT
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I like my Sandman S, but I can't speak to the K.
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Posted: 10/1/2017 12:49:13 AM EDT
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I bet it would sound good on a bolt gun but loud on an ar. I'm sure it will work great for a lot of people but I'd pick up a second Razor before I bought one of these.
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Posted: 10/1/2017 1:04:50 AM EDT
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I bet it would sound good on a bolt gun but loud on an ar. I'm sure it will work great for a lot of people but I'd pick up a second Razor before I bought one of these. I want to love the Sandman K. I want to buy it and look like a cool guy with my super short can. I also want it to defy physics... |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 3:33:43 PM EDT
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There is a fix for the ASR mount and your Saker if it has a module. Dr. Pappas' miracle cure. Lol. I have a lot of rounds on that 14.5 inch SBR and I've never cleaned the mount. Never had to. Although that will probably jimx me now that have written this  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W6obCIV38gI’ll probably end up with a couple Sandmans down the road anyway. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 5:49:33 PM EDT
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Once my K clears its going on a fullauto hk53 and hk51. Should be good times.
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Posted: 10/1/2017 7:34:19 PM EDT
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Finally someone tested it. Damn, that is a LOT louder than a Sandman S. I was thinking about maybe putting one on my 14.5" AR just for fun, but not at that decibel level. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FINALLY! Someone posted sound data for the Sandman-K. In this case, Capital Armory. https://i.imgur.com/x8dOsHb.png https://i.imgur.com/qHnrOaa.png https://i.imgur.com/qFG5qKR.png I think I'm gonna get one, not nearly as loud as I expected. 1. This is much more useful on a full sized (16") AR that I had first thought. You're basically getting a Mini 4 with a better mount at a better price. 2. It confirms my initial thought that I didn't understand why it was made in .30 cal - with those sound levels on BLK and .308, I really don't see a large cal. application that makes much sense. I think I'm going to grab one now, but I still would have rather seen it done in 556. |
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Posted: 10/1/2017 11:17:17 PM EDT
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I ordered a Sandman K last week from the Capitol Armory. I'll post a review once I receive my Arsenal 104UR Krink back from Rifle Dynamics in a few weeks.
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